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Why in the hell will they not release the name of this soldier - murderer? (Original Post) Logical Mar 2012 OP
Ostensibly to protect his family at JBLM gratuitous Mar 2012 #1
According to news reports, RebelOne Mar 2012 #2
"ostensibly"? onenote Mar 2012 #3
Just repeating what I've heard gratuitous Mar 2012 #4
It's hard to beleive the people Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #5
Because he hasn't been charged yet proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #6
Tell that to any USA criminal. Names released immediately. Logical Mar 2012 #7
criminal, hell - they print your name if you're arrested elehhhhna Mar 2012 #9
Front page if arrested, last page when charges dropped. Logical Mar 2012 #10
Um. No. proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #12
You are wrong...... Logical Mar 2012 #19
are you kidding? elehhhhna Mar 2012 #8
This man is a terrorist Hugabear Mar 2012 #13
Does it matter that he's TWO YEARS post traumatic brain injury? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #22
Fourth tour in 12 years, 2 years post traumatic brain injury, he should never have been allowed back NotThisTime Mar 2012 #26
this man is a casualty of war... Dan Mar 2012 #27
and? elehhhhna Mar 2012 #29
Why is it necessary to know? TreasonousBastard Mar 2012 #11
My 1st thought is that his deployment was flawed. He was tagged with a TBI or PTSD riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #14
Because he isn't a muslim who killed white people underpants Mar 2012 #15
Fear of vigilantism? treestar Mar 2012 #16
Disclosure could endanger the soldier's family. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #17
They will have to release his name once they charge him. LisaL Mar 2012 #20
they still haven't decided who to pin it on Enrique Mar 2012 #18
Probably to protect his family Marrah_G Mar 2012 #21
the military is going to throw him under the bus annm4peace Mar 2012 #23
I think so too. I think they are taking their time so they can put the story in place riderinthestorm Mar 2012 #24
Honestly I would think, based on the information that's come out... Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #25
It is very unusual that no name has been released yet. mackattack Mar 2012 #28

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Ostensibly to protect his family at JBLM
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:51 PM
Mar 2012

But it is odd to me how very solicitous and nuanced we can be when someone accused of a heinous crime is "one of our own."

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
2. According to news reports,
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:55 PM
Mar 2012

the family in the U.S. has been relocated for their own protection. If I was them, I would not want his name released.

onenote

(42,715 posts)
3. "ostensibly"?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 07:02 PM
Mar 2012

Do you think that they're not concerned about the safety of his family? In any event, its actually not uncommon for the military to withhold the name of an accused member of the service until formal charges are filed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Just repeating what I've heard
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 07:18 PM
Mar 2012

I'm sure the military is VERY concerned about the safety of some families, and is VERY careful about releasing some names, depending on the circumstances.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
8. are you kidding?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 07:43 PM
Mar 2012

we're militarily "waging diplomacy" (!!!) in a place where blood feuds last for centuries.

his kids, parents, wife, etc. should be protected from reprisals

this event has ramifications for the mil regarding our troops fitness for duty. bigtime shit. it's a diplomatic nightmare here as much as there, for different reasons. if he becomes a flawed human in the eyes of america -- if he elicits one ounce of sympathy for cracking under unimaginable stress, US support for this boondoggle gravytrain will stop, pronto.

support the troops - bring them home now

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
13. This man is a terrorist
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:14 PM
Mar 2012

Just because he wears the uniform of the US military doesn't make him any less so

NotThisTime

(3,657 posts)
26. Fourth tour in 12 years, 2 years post traumatic brain injury, he should never have been allowed back
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 11:37 PM
Mar 2012

in, just shows how desperate our military is for anyone who has a pulse, including those seriously injured already....

Dan

(3,570 posts)
27. this man is a casualty of war...
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:45 AM
Mar 2012

Mr. Bush, the wars have broken the back of the volunteer army.

And, I would bet my pension, that if we embrace the stupidity of a conflict with IRAN, there will be a draft, boys and girls.

The sad part is, if such an event were to occur, then the draft should be limited to only people 40 years or older... that would bring an end to all this mess in a hurry.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
29. and?
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 10:34 AM
Mar 2012

if your point is that the mil justice system should come down on him like an avalanche, I get you.

My point is that his family is in danger and should be protected. aND tptb DEOSN'T WANT TO OPEN UP A NATIONAL DIALOGUE ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR TROOPS. oops didn't mean to hit all caps.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
14. My 1st thought is that his deployment was flawed. He was tagged with a TBI or PTSD
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:17 PM
Mar 2012

and the military pronounced him "fit to serve" despite it or after a shamefully short treatment time.

Call me a cynic but honestly, I thought the military was probably taking the time to scrub his records before they released his info. :shrug

It's quite possible the delay is to protect his family but that particular rationale doesn't seem to have been utilized for others (like Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter who was identified almost immediately for example).

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
17. Disclosure could endanger the soldier's family.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:26 PM
Mar 2012

I want him under heavy lockup. I want psych evaluation done on every active soldier. Naming the soldier that went on a rampage accomplishes nothing to prevent future incidents of murderous rage by american soldiers.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
18. they still haven't decided who to pin it on
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:34 PM
Mar 2012

i'm exaggerating, but I bet it has something to do with getting the story straight. Because you know they're going to have a story to tell us.

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
23. the military is going to throw him under the bus
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 01:01 AM
Mar 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002421841

Shame on the military, shame on Congress members who have totally neglected our Troops and haven't listened to the Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War and Military Members speak out.

The blood is on Congress, the President and all of the taxpayers hands.
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
24. I think so too. I think they are taking their time so they can put the story in place
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 07:01 PM
Mar 2012

and attend to all the details about his breakdown ahead of the groups like Veterans for Peace and the Iraq Veterans against the war... I think they are scrubbing data right now to cover up TBI or PTSD and that he never should have been sent back into a war zone.

Probably also moving the family to ensure their safety (or putting them under deep wrap).

Call me a cynical old woman....

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
25. Honestly I would think, based on the information that's come out...
Wed Mar 14, 2012, 07:12 PM
Mar 2012

that the military has some serious culpability; the soldier in question supposedly suffered a traumatic brain injury in a vehicle rollover incident in Iraq (brain injury can cause serious loss of impulse control, rage, and personality changes; it's perhaps significant that traumatic head injury is something found in most serial killers). Add to that that this was his fourth deployment, and one has to question whether the military has some ultimate responsibility for the incident.

 

mackattack

(344 posts)
28. It is very unusual that no name has been released yet.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:46 AM
Mar 2012

Military is afraid of reprisals against the family or that his unit will be targeted. Sure the name will be released once charged/sent o trial/whatever. But the REMFs want to do as much damage control as possible.


trust me.

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