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Jello Biafra

(439 posts)
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:49 PM Mar 2012

Senator Seeks Saggy Pants Ban In N.Y.C. Schools

New York State Senator Eric Adams is fed up with seeing male youths walking around with low slung or sagging pants that exposes their underwear. Consequently, Adams is currently lobbying for a resolution to adopt a ban against wearing droopy pants in New York City public school classrooms, reports the New York Post.

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The city’s controversial Mayor Michael Bloomberg, however, has made mention of the fact that he is not in favor of policing dress codes. Senator Adams, on the other hand, thinks that the mayor just doesn’t care to get it. ”In the society he hangs out in, they don’t sag. They laugh at people that sag. And they just say, ‘Those are the people we’ll never hire, who will never date our children.’ In the universe that he lives in, sagging is not an issue. Would he hire someone that comes in the building sagging? Would he employ them to run his corporation? Would he bring them into City Hall? It’s tolerable to him because he’s removed from that universe.”

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http://newsone.com/newsone-original/ruthlogan/state-senator-seeks-saggy-pants-ban-in-n-y-c-schools/

I must be getting old, but I agree with this.......

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TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
3. Yep, you're getting old. ;)
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:53 PM
Mar 2012

It may look stupid, but that's not a good enough reason for a law. Remember, your own generation no doubt did a lot of things that your elders thought looked stupid and you should stop doing too.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
8. It looks more than stupid.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:02 PM
Mar 2012

I have seen boys with their pants almost past their butt, exposing most of their undershorts. And I am not a prude. In my younger years, I dressed very provocatively, but at least, I did not show my underwear.

montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
4. He makes an interesting argument
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:55 PM
Mar 2012

which is hard to disagree with

I work in employment & training, on the welfare to work program, and you cannot believe how people dress and they think an employer will hire them looking like that. And it has NOTHING to do with the amount of money they have or otherwise, they just don't get it. We have to counsel them on what to wear and what is totally inappropriate. Something they should have learned long ago.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. I am astonished that this incredibly ugly "style"
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:57 PM
Mar 2012

has lasted for more than ten years. By the mid-1980s those of us who wore silly shit in the 1970s had moved on, and the "kids" had their own new things.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
10. I think it's been popular since the late 80s/early 90s
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:08 PM
Mar 2012

It comes from prison culture. It's not uncommon to be issued clothes that don't fit right and no belt. In such circumstances you've got no choice but to sag. For some reason, it eventually caught on in the streets too.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. Wow. Take your fashion cues from prisoners.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
Mar 2012

Yeah, that's classy. Bet it's gonna work out real well when you go and apply for a job. Nothing says "I have aspirations to improve myself" like dressing as if you were in prison.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
7. While I think saggy pants are classless and stupid
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:58 PM
Mar 2012

I oppose school dress codes unless it can be proven that the forbidden apparel is a direct threat to good order and discipline. I don't see that here.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
9. Why regulate school dress code?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:07 PM
Mar 2012

When they could regulate outside the school. Actually, I would think neither is really possible. But if they can consider it indecent exposure that might work.

But they should encourage more pant sagging to help make it easier to catch idiotic criminals.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
11. slippery slope, i think....The next state senator will want the girls to wear longer skirts...
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012

and the end game always ends up being school uniforms....

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. It would avoid those uh, moments similiar to being behind a plumber, etc.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:28 PM
Mar 2012

And the practice of baggy pants probably deprives heavy people from buying the size clothes that would not fall off.

Just sayin'

earthside

(6,960 posts)
14. One does have to wonder ...
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:35 PM
Mar 2012

I'm pretty tolerate and liberal about things like dress, hair, etc., especially in real life day-to-day.

But even I do have to wonder about saggy pants, rings in noses and lips, and tattoos on necks. (Why do people have their names put on their necks? So everyone knows who they are? Or do they have self-esteem issues?)

How do these folks hope to get a good job?
Or do they?
Especially at any kind of business that serves the general public.


surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
15. I don't agree.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 06:36 PM
Mar 2012

I think it's the dumbest looking fashion statement ever, and a potential problem in many social settings, but I don't think we need laws to enforce school dress codes.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
16. While my favorite form of addressing this issue is ridicule, the saggy pants demographic often does
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 07:46 PM
Mar 2012

not take that very well. They are after all emulating prisoners, gang members, etc.

I could get away with a lot better since I am not white, but white guy in a business suit could have a real problem if it did it in the DC Metro or a shopping mall.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
17. Well, I hate those pants...
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 07:50 PM
Mar 2012

and I don't disagree that students shouldn't wear them. But, it is kind of a silly law. We would have to have some kind of cut off as to what is too saggy. Then we could regulate how tight clothes are ect.. slippery slope I think.

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