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KINGS PARK (WABC) -- There is anger at a Long Island school because they changed the words to the song "Silent Night."
The district says it was to avoid offending people but it seems like it did the opposite.
Parents are so confused that 5th graders at RJO Intermediate School in Kings Park recently performed the song "Silent Night" with all religious words like Christ, God and Jesus taken out.
Dan Gallo, a parent of one of the students was completely offended by it.
"There is so many Christmas songs. Why would you change the lyrics to something that is very near and dear to so many people?" said Gallo.
full: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=9366446
Hmm. One comment on the article says, "They didn't change the lyrics. Those lyrics on the paper are the SECOND VERSE OF THE SONG." Turns out this story could be just plain media malpractice and clickbait. Just like Bill O'Reilly's 2005 Silent Night hoax.
CurtEastPoint
(18,656 posts)atreides1
(16,091 posts)It's a traditional song for Christmas...it isn't promoting religion anymore then Frosty the Snowman promotes magic hats!!!
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The Carrot Board estimates that sales of carrots exceed monthly averages by 200% due to this song's suggestion of non-consumptive carrot use.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Why would the school choose a religious song in the first place? Then go through the trouble of changing the words so they would not offend? Just pick a different song, then no one gets poutraged at the offense.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)These are the "unchanged" lyrics:
1. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Alles schläft; einsam wacht
Nur das traute hoch heilige Paar.
Holder Knab' im lockigen Haar,
|: Schlafe in himmlischer Ruh! :|
2. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Gottes Sohn, o wie lacht
Lieb' aus deinem göttlichen Mund,
Da uns schlägt die rettende Stund'.
|: Jesus in deiner Geburt! :|
3. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Die der Welt Heil gebracht,
Aus des Himmels goldenen Höhn,
Uns der Gnaden Fülle läßt sehn,
|: Jesum in Menschengestalt! :|
4. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Wo sich heut alle Macht
Väterlicher Liebe ergoß,
Und als Bruder huldvoll umschloß
|: Jesus die Völker der Welt! :|
5. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Lange schon uns bedacht,
Als der Herr vom Grimme befreit
In der Väter urgrauer Zeit
|: Aller Welt Schonung verhieß! :|
6. Stille Nacht! Heil'ge Nacht!
Hirten erst kundgemacht
Durch der Engel Alleluja,
Tönt es laut bei Ferne und Nah:
|: "Jesus der Retter ist da!" :|
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)The song was sung simultaneously in French, English and German by troops during the Christmas truce of 1914 during World War I, as it was one carol that soldiers on both sides of the front line knew.
Do you think these French, English and German solders would have known the words that this school changed them to? Each knew their translation of the same carol. The words were the same, the language was what was different.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Translation is an art, which is why translations count as sufficiently distinct derivative works to be independently subject to copyright.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Then deliberately changed the words so not to offend the non religious or those from a different religion. It was just a shitty thing to do.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)TeamPooka
(24,248 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I thought that was limited to the Boston area?
Cool.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)or Santa Claus is Coming to Town, or any of a million others. Changing the words of a religious carol is not necessary and will just piss people off.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Er... why sing the song then?
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Silent night, holy night!
All is calm, all is bright.
Round yon Virgin, Mother and Child.
Holy infant so tender and mild,
Sleep in heavenly peace,
Sleep in heavenly peace
Silent night, holy night!
Shepherds quake at the sight.
Glories stream from heaven afar
Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia,
Christ the Savior is born!
Christ the Savior is born
To get this:
Silent night, holy night!
Shepherds quake at the sight.
Glories stream from heaven afar
Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia,
Sleep in heavenly peace,
Sleep in heavenly peace
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)This is a massive fail.
kcr
(15,318 posts)And none of them had ever heard that second verse?
Manufactured outrage clickbait alert
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)There are MANY great Xmas songs that are not religious, but that impart the benevolence of the season..and will not offend ANYONE..
These people are deliberately provoking "controversy" where none need be..
Buzzfeed posted 19 of them.. all great
http://www.buzzfeed.com/donnad/the-best-secular-christmas-songs
and here's a whole page of them:
http://listeninglab.stantons.com/choral-music/seasonal/secular-christmas/
'Twas The Night Before Christmas
Composer: Darby, Ken
Arranger: Simeone, Harry
All I Want For Christmas Is You
Arranger: Huff, Mac
All I Want Is Nuttin'
Arranger: Albrecht, Sally K
Series: Holiday
All Is Merry And All Is Bright
Composer: Estes, Jerry
Away From The Mistletoe
Composer: Beck/Fisher
Series: Choral Designs
Baby It's Cold Outside
Arranger: O'connell, Ryan
Believe
Composer: Groban, Josh
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Believe (From Polar Express)
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Series: Holiday
Blizzard On The Way
Composer: Althouse, Jay
Series: Choral Designs
Blue Christmas
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Can You Hear The Bells
Composer: Emerson, Roger
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Caribbean Gloria, A
Composer: Parks, Gary E
Caribe Noel
Composer: Parks, Gary E
Series: Choral Designs
Chapua Kali Desemba
Composer: Lantz/Parker
Series: Choral Designs
Christmas Bell Roundelay
Composer: Spevacek, Linda
Christmas Bells Are Ringing
Arranger: Wagner, Douglas E
Series: Sing Out
Christmas Clock, The
Composer: Miller, Cristi Cary
Christmas Is
Composer: Rouse, Jay
Christmas Is (W/The Christmas Song)
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Christmas Is For Children
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Christmas Is Just Around The Corner
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Christmas Jazz Trio, A
Arranger: Weir, Michele
Series: Holiday
Christmas Memories
Composer: Powell, Rosephanye
Christmas Pops Trio
Arranger: Althouse, Jay
Series: Holiday Pop
Christmas Sock Rock, The
Composer: Jacobson/Huff
Christmas Song, The
Composer: Torme/Wells
Arranger: Lojeski, Ed
Christmas Song, The (Chestnuts Roasting)
Arranger: Rubino, Jerry
Christmas Time Is Here
Arranger: Lojeski, Ed
Christmas Wish, A
Composer: Spevacek, Linda
Classical Christmas, A
Arranger: Gilpin, Greg
Dance of The Sugar-Plum Fairy
Arranger: Funk, Jeff
December In Our Town
Composer: Emerson, Roger
Deck The Hall
Arranger: Patterson, Mark
Ding Dong Ring The Bells
Composer: Snyder, Audrey
Ding-A Ding-A Ding
Composer: Gilpin, Greg
Don't Be A Jerk (It's Christmas)
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Everyday Christmas
Composer: Andrews, Doug
Fa La La Fantasy
Arranger: Rentz, Earlene
Festival Deck The Hall
Arranger: Althouse, Jay
Series: Choral Designs
Festive Noel, A
Composer: Perry/Perry
Frosty The Snow Man
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Frosty Way, The
Arranger: Brymer, Mark
Gettin' In The Mood (For Christmas)
Composer: Setzer, Brian
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Gettin' In The Mood (For Christmas)
Arranger: Shackley, Larry
Giddy-Up (A Sleigh Ride Song)
Composer: Donnelly/Strid
Gift, The
Composer: Brickman/Douglas
Arranger: Chinn, Teena
Goin' On A Sleigh Ride
Arranger: Albrecht
Good King Kong Looked Out
Composer: Bach, P D Q
Grown-Up Christmas List
Arranger: Gilpin, Greg
Series: Holiday
Happy Holidays To You
Composer: Grier, Greg
Arranger: Liebergen, Patrick M
Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
Composer: Martin/Blane
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Series: Holiday
Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Heap On More Wood
Arranger: Dixon, John
Here We Come A-Caroling
Arranger: Ijames, Molly
Here We Come A-Wassailing
Arranger: Perry/Perry
Here We Come A-Wassailing
Arranger: O'connell, Ryan
Holiday Dreamin' (Medley)
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Holiday Jazz Trio
Arranger: Weir, Michele
Series: Pop Holiday
Holiday Shopping Spree
Composer: Jacobson/Huff
Holly Jolly Christmas, A
Composer: Marks, Johnny
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Holly Jolly Christmas, A
Arranger: Huff, Mac
How Many Christmases
Composer: Papoulis, Jim
I Am So Glad Each Christmas Eve
Arranger: Julseth-Heinrich, Je
I Want A Hippopotamus For Christmas
Arranger: Gallina, Jill
I Wish You Christmas
Composer: Rutter, John
I'd Like To Be Santa's Reindeer
Composer: Williams/Drennan
I'll Be Home For Christmas
Composer: Gannon/Kent
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Series: Holiday
I'll Be Home For Christmas
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Series: Holiday
I'll Be Home For Christmas
Arranger: Gilpin, Greg
In Winter So Many Stars
Composer: Purifoy, John
Series: John Purifoy Choral
It's Beginning To Look Like Christmas
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
It's Christmas And All of That Jazz
Composer: Lantz/Lantz
It's The Holiday Season
Arranger: Gallina, Jill
Jamaican Noel
Arranger: Spevacek, Linda
Jazzy Saint Nick
Arranger: Robinson, Russell
Series: Choral Designs
Jingle Bell Dash
Arranger: Bailey, Lynn Shaw
Series: Choral Designs
Jingle Bell Rock
Composer: Beal/Boothe
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Jingle Bell Rock
Arranger: Billingsley, Alan
Jingle Bells
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Jingle Bells
Arranger: Fiftal, Lois
Jingle Bells
Arranger: Weber, Michael
Jingle Bells
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Series: Hioliday
Jingle Bells
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Jingle Bells Rock
Arranger: Albrecht, Sally K
Series: Holiday
Jingle Jingle Swing
Arranger: Gray, Ruth Morris
Jolly Jingle Christmas Medley
Arranger: Billingsley, Alan
Series: Choral Designs
Jumble Bells
Arranger: Barnes, Eric Lane
Kling Glockchen (Ring Little Bells)
Arranger: Courtney, Vicki Tuck
Series: Choral Designs
Last Christmas
Arranger: Gilpin, Greg
Series: Holiday
Let It Snow Let It Snow Let It Snow
Arranger: Billingsley, Alan
Series: Holiday
Let It Snow Let It Snow Let It Snow
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Let It Snow Let It Snow Let It Snow
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Let It Snow Let It Snow Let It Snow
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Let It Snow/Winter Wonderland
Arranger: Billingsey, Alan
Let's Take A Sleigh Ride
Composer: Weston, Mark
Series: Sing Out
Light The Lights
Composer: Beck, Andy
Series: Choral Designs
Little Drummer Boy/Peace On Earth, The
Arranger: Althouse, Jay
Series: Holiday
Little Tommy's Choir (Tooma Laulukoor)
Arranger: Berg, Ken
Man With The Bag, The/Santa Baby
Arranger: Langford, Paul
Mele Kalikimaka
Arranger: Althouse, Jay
Series: Holiday
Merry Are The Bells
Composer: Spevacek, Linda
Merry Christmas Darling
Composer: Carpenter/Pooler
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Merry Christmas Merry Christmas
Arranger: Fettke, Tom
Series: Holiday
Merry Merry Christmas To You
Composer: Wagner, Douglas E
Series: Sing Out
Mistletoe And Holly
Arranger: Purifoy, John
Most Wonderful Time of The Year, The
Arranger: Snyder, Audrey
Most Wonderful Time of The Year, The
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Mozart's Fa-La-La
Arranger: Kern, Philip
My True Love Gave To Me
Composer: Beck/Fisher
Series: Choral Designs
Night Before Christmas, The
Composer: Weston, Mark
Series: Sing Out
Nutcracker Jingles
Arranger: Bridwell, Chuck
Series: Choarla Designs
Nutcracker March
Arranger: Funk, Jeff
Series: Choral Designs
O Christmas Tree
Composer: Gray, Ruth Morris
O Tannenbaum
Arranger: Hall, William D
Parade of The Wooden Soldiers
Arranger: Leavitt, John
Parade of The Wooden Soldiers
Arranger: Funk, Jeff
Pat-A-Pan
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Series: Choral Designs
Pat-A-Pan Salsa
Arranger: Fettke/Grassi
Perfect Christmas Night
Arranger: Gilpin, Greg
Please Come Home For Christmas
Arranger: Brymer, Mark
Polar Express (Choral Highlights)
Arranger: Billingsley, Alan
Ready Set Snow
Composer: Althouse, Jay
Series: Choral Designs
Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
Composer: Marks, Johnny
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
Arranger: Gallina, Jill
Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Series: Holiday
Rockin' Rudy
Composer: Gallina, Jill
Rudolph The Red-Nosed Reindeer
Composer: Marks, Johnny
Arranger: Tatgenhorst, John
Russian Dance (From The Nutcracker)
Arranger: Funk, Jeff
Series: Choral Designs
Santa Claus Is Comin' To Town
Arranger: Langford, Paul
Silver Bells
Arranger: Snyder, Audrey
Silver Bells
Arranger: Robison, Kevin
Series: Voices Rising
Skatin' With My Baby
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Sleigh Bells
Arranger: Rentz, Earlene
Sleigh Ride
Arranger: Shaw, Kirby
Sleigh Ride
Composer: Anderson, Leroy
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Series: Holiday
Snow
Composer: Riggs, Kenneth
Some Folks Love The Holidays
Arranger: Ginsberg, Neil
Somewhere In My Memory
Arranger: Snyder, Audrey
Stomp The Hall
Arranger: Barnes, Eric Lane
Super Santa
Composer: Beck, Andy
Series: Choral Designs
Swingle Bells
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Twelve Days After Christmas, The
Composer: Silver, Frederick
Twelve Days of Christmas, The
Arranger: Beigel, Jeffrey
Up Up Up In The Sleigh
Composer: Beck, Andy
Variations On Deck The Hall
Arranger: O'connell, Ryan
Variations On Jingle Bells
Composer: Pierpont, James
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
Various Themes On Fa-La-La
Arranger: Bridwell, Chuck
Series: Choral Designs
Various Themes On Fa-La-La
Arranger: Bridwell, Chuck
Series: Choral Designs
Very Merry Madrigal, A
Composer: Wagner, Douglas E
Series: Choral Designs
Wassail
Composer: Aranowski, Peggy Pro
Arranger: Delanoy, Catherine
Wassail Song
Composer: Rentz, Earlene
We Need A Little Christmas
Arranger: Hayes, Mark
We Need A Little Christmas (From Mame)
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
We Wish You A Happy Holiday
Composer: Donnelly/Strid
We Wish You A Merry Christmas
Arranger: Lantz, David
We Wish You A Merry Christmas
Arranger: Willcocks, Jonathan
We Wish You A Merry Christmas
Arranger: Emerson, Roger
Series: Discovery
Welcome Christmas
Arranger: Beck, Andy
Series: Holiday
What Christmas Means To Me
Arranger: Huff, Mac
Where Are You Christmas
Arranger: Huff, Mac
White Christmas
Arranger: Snyder, Audrey
Winter Wonderland
Composer: Smith/Bernard
Arranger: Beck, Andy