I FOUND THE HAIL VIDEO!!!

[snooper2]

I think so...It's been a quest of mine... (thought it deserved it's own thread)


Since my Spanish consists of "mucho cerveza por favor" can somebody translate what this guy is saying for me? And why is Chicago in the title? As a side note, it's good to see that Mexican on-site "weatherpeople" look as goofy as their American brethren

Granizada en DF, casi como las nevadas de Chicago

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Uploaded by jgonzalezvalle on Mar 12, 2012
10 de marzo de 2012 zona de las Lomas de Chapultepec

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Good job one of two

They found it at half a meter depth, in the western side of the city.

(I will not bother with conversions from metric to feet)

He is also saying that the trucks from public safety (police) are working to try to extract the vehicles from the ice, and that he is not going any further for safety reasons.

I am still trying to translate with a fever, correct term for those trucks escapes me.

[kestrel91316]

14. Half a meter is roughly half a yard aka 18 inches aka one and a half feet.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. I will not bother with conversions

I speak metric.

[zappaman]

17. There are 60cm in a meter.

Suffice it to say, I learned this recently here on DU.

[sudopod]

22. Grow up.

Meta is thattaway.

[SidDithers]

23. No you don't...nt

Sid

[Codeine]

39. "I speak metric."

Poorly.

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. Looks like snow to me

and that makes a lot more sense - snow is far less dense than hail (or water). I'd also say it's no more than 2 feet (perhaps half a metre?), judging by where it's up to on the cars.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. It wasn't snow

It was a really freak hail storm.

They had a couple places like that at half a meter and one deeper.

The worst part, that's ten minutes from where my mom lives...we got a little hail, nothing that actually accumulated.

[tammywammy]

8. It does more look like snow the way he's maneuvering through it

It may just be the lack of lighting though. We get hail storms every spring here. Felt bad for the people in for a meeting last year who spent the night in the basement of their hotel and had the crap whacked out of their rental cars.

[Liberal_in_LA]

9. me too

[Renew Deal]

3. There is hail up to his knees!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

4. Granizada en DF, casi como las nevadas de Chicago

means "Hail in the Federal District (i.e. Mexico City) almost like the snows of Chicago."

By the way, this is another example of bizarre weather, because Mexico City supposedly has a very mild climate.

[Renew Deal]

7. Doesn't hail come in warm weather?

Was that hail or snow?

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Hail, it was up to 25 centigrade in the afternoon

No, will no longer bother with conversions.

[Renew Deal]

16. lol

[myrna minx]

26. You clearly have stalkers. I'd put these folks on ignore.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Yup, I got a fan club

At this point though, any freak weather event, I ain't posting here.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

30. people who point out contradictions with facts are now stalkers...

nice job...

sP

[Brother Buzz]

5. My Spanish is a little rusty but I believe it's a public service message for Mexican tourists

and roughly translates as follows:

Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow

[zappaman]

12. +1...obviously n/t

[mucifer]

11. It's clearly not in Chicago. The reporter is frightened of the hail.

Our reporters can walk around in the snow without getting scared.


BTW The title is "Almost Like the Chicago Snow"

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. You do realize this was a very freak storm

Fear s understandable.

[Brickbat]

18. Looks like hail that's been washed up and piled up by torrential rain. Wind blows snow into drifts,

and the heavy rains that often accompany storms with hail in them can wash the hail into "drifts" in low-lying areas. It looks like that's what happened here. But the "drift" is not an accurate measurement of what actually fell from the sky, of course.

[SidDithers]

25. Exactly...

If I get a snow drift in front of my garage, I don't say that we got 3 feet of snow, when there's only 4 inches on the rest of the driveway.

Sid

[ProdigalJunkMail]

32. but some people do, Sid...and it's 'reporting'

and is not to be questioned or you get ignored!!!

(insert assumed sarcasm tag here)

sP

[zappaman]

19. Here's a picture of the hail in Mexico City

http://kraynin.deviantart.com/art/Hailstorm-Mexico-City-3-287208774

[zappaman]

20. Here are more pictures and a description of the storm

by a person who was there.
Unless 50cm means "4-6 feet", this may be the wrong storm...

http://whereverlifetakesus.travellerspoint.com/111/

[zappaman]

21. Not hard to find

Here is more on the freak storm.
Suffice it to say, it was piled high enough(4-6 feet) to make it hard to get into doorways!

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/your_weather/details/1001/5845296/1/?ref=ugc_activewx_thumbs

[SidDithers]

24. Does't look like 6 feet, or 4 feet...

or a meter, or even 60 cm to me.

Sid

[lumberjack_jeff]

28. the title says "sudden hailstorm almost like Chicago snow".

[ProdigalJunkMail]

29. ok...so now we see a foot and a half

of hail that has been washed into a pile...still not close to the original posting that was 3 to 4 feet of hail that FELL. this is nothing close to the original story title (which was nicely scrubbed) and is akin to when that reporter was in the canoe paddling along and people walked by in water about shin-deep...

sP

[zappaman]

31. well, to be fair, it started at 6 feet

then moved to 4 feet.
suffice it to say, none of the videos. pictures, or eyewitness accounts back up this extraordinary claim.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

33. but we're stalkers, dontchaknow???

maybe facts are stalkers, too?

sP

[sabrina 1]

34. Not to worry, so long as it entertains a few 'cavemen'

who have had little to entertain themselves with lately at the expense of a longtime DUer. I guess it keeps them off the streets, so maybe it could be viewed as a 'public service'.

Since I'm not about to go wading through that very deeply disturbing mire over there, I can't say for sure, but I'd be willing to bet that the two OPs searching for 'facts' on a story that was originally deemed so unimportant, have been posted with glee over there.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

35. she posts correct information

or even corrects her mistakes she would be well loved by all...but she just plain doesn't. i too am a long time DUer, as you put it, but that doesn't mean that when i post something false that i shouldn't get called on it...and then correct myself or the OP. this long time DUer you mention never owns her mistakes and anyone who points them out and tries to get her to correct it is 'attacking' her and she goes all martyr on us... passive aggressive pattern bullshit.

sP

[sabrina 1]

36. And the solution is simple if that's your problem with any DUer. Just pass by their

posts and/or put them on ignore. To conduct a campaign that has gone on for years against someone is called 'stalking'. In fact, it's pretty disturbing and if someone finds themselves unable to ignore someone they do not like, it is not that person who has the major problem. To feed a rightwing board with fodder against any DUer, is simply shameful.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

38. so...ignore people who post wrong information

ok...you go with that.

sP

[zabet]

51. 'cavemen'?

"Since I'm not about to go wading through that very deeply disturbing mire over there, I can't say for sure,.."

Sounds like you have been wading already to know such.

Correcting an incorrect post that is posted as fact is not stalking or cyber-bullying.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. This is from another news cast

Removal.

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They removed upwards of 50 metric tons from the lomas area...quite a bit the old fashioned way, and brought some heavy equipment.

[joshcryer]

40. 50 tons of ice is about as much as a 24 ft swimming pool.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=50+metric+tons+of+ice+to+gallons

http://www.poolinfo.com/Pool-Volume.htm

Work in construction so my first thought was "that all?" They must've filmed almost all of the slush there. Nice reporting, shows how camera angles can be misleading. I bet a camera angle from down another street would've been unremarkable, for sure.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. I am sure that is the case

And that major avenue was not closed for hours, nor was Periferico Constituyentes. (not part of that news story, sorry my camera was not out) when we drove by due to ice.

It's not the ammount...watch the video. It's not like this happens often enough where the equipment needed for cleanup makes economic sense.

[joshcryer]

44. Oh, no doubt major events are happening due to global warming.

Bigger extremes and the like. I expect it to get much worse, to be honest. What struck me is that even their news media sensationalized a localized event like that. I'm just waiting for another big snow storm in Atlanta (which is ill equipped to handle one of those). Probably be a few years yet, though. Looks like we're actually heading into a warm summer.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Joe it was not localized

When it affects 13 out of 18 delegations it is not a local event.

They had another one next day.

The critical point, I went looking, is the frequency of these are increasing by orders of magnitude. Oh and that avenue is a major throuroughfare.

Anyway my mom just mentioned to me the floods in chile. Don't worry, will go look, but won't bother posting.

[joshcryer]

47. Joe? Erm... OK.

I'm talking about the deep slush, if the 50 metric ton number is correct then they were filming and reporting on an event that clogged up a street or two. Not an event that shut down an entire city or displaced hundreds of people, as what happens in other events like this regularly. Carencro Louisiana is a recent example, where more than 100 people were affected.

The media can be and is very deceptive with these sorts of instances. As an engineer / construction worker it immediately stuck me how the media was being manipulative.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Alas I never claimed such

Nor did the media.

This particular part blocked a major road overnight. There were about 10 folks displaced who could not get home

What I said is that it was a freak storm.

The damage to vehicular circulation, in greater effects was the Periferico Constituyentes which was closed.

But to say that they claimed hundreds, let thousands displaced would be a lie since not even the yellow press, yes it exist, went there.

The other news station mentioned the ten or so local residents who'd be unable to get home for the night and would stay at hotel or relatives. I hardly call that exaggeration.

Nevertheless I will refrain from posting any such stories here...oh and for the record if you ae half way curious, chile is that kind of a disaster. Will find in English and post off site.

[joshcryer]

49. I'm talking specifically about the imagery.

The imagery, to someone who is not looking at the finer details, can be quite mind boggling. It was well done in both videos that I saw. Other pictures and videos indicated a serious event, but nothing near that level.

I never said that "they claimed hundreds, let thousands displaced," if I recall I responded to their contention of 50 metric tons of slush, which is quite a low number.

They did this recently here in Colorado when a major blizzard was about to hit. When they saw that it was blowing over, they sent three crew members out into the flats to get pictures of the massive blizzard they'd been reporting was coming for days. Even then it blew over so quick that it hardly did any damage and those reporters looked so silly out there. One of them was visibly annoyed because the trip was a good 4 hour drive.

Louisiana just had a 100 year rain event, bigger: http://www.katc.com/news/flood-greater-than-a-100-year-rain-event/

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Scratch to my understanding the language

Perhaps it woud look far worst if I did not know the city, or the language or local media conventions.

Suffice it to say that half a meter of ice is highly unusual for the city, as in almost unheard off.

[blaze]

41. Post #20 linked to a report of 50 centimeters

My online conversion thingie says that's 19" of hail!!!!

That is a boatload of hail!!! Here in Denver, we do hail on a semi regular basis and I've never seen anything that matches that.

And I suspect there *were* areas where it was washing up and giving "false" accumulations.

As with any "breaking" story.... all sorts of misinformation gets reported by our "esteemed" news media before the actual facts settle in.

That was one hell of a hail storm.

[WCGreen]

42. Un ellado y dos cervasa...

One Ice cream and two beers. That's pretty much all I remember...

It's good to see their local anchors are as cheesy as ours.

[Texasgal]

45. You guys really need to stop.

This is becoming mean and unecessary.

Cool it.