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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:43 AM Dec 2013

The GOP’s (Internal) Fight Has Just Begun

The Republican civil war, like all civil wars, is even messier than it looks. It’s a battle between two different conservative establishments complicated by philosophical struggles across many other fronts. Its resolution will determine whether we are a governable country.

The Tea Party certainly still wields power in GOP primaries, one reason why only one of the seven Republican Senators facing Tea Party challengers, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, supported allowing a vote on the deal. But Ryan and House Speaker John Boehner calculated, correctly, that the wreckage from October’s shutdown strategy allowed them to breach the Tea Party’s barrier against deal-making.

Let’s be clear about what this GOP brawl is not. It is not a clash between “conservatives” and “moderates.” Most genuine Republican moderates either lost primaries or were defeated by Democrats. Liberal Republicans, once a hearty breed, disappeared long ago. The Republican Party is unequivocally in conservative hands. What makes the Tea Party rebellion peculiar is that its champions have lifted strategy and tactics to the level of principle.

Nor is this a fight in which “the Republican establishment” is being challenged by its “grassroots” enemies. Boehner denounced conservative fundraising behemoths (they include FreedomWorks, Heritage Action and Americans for Prosperity) because he understands that they now constitute an alternative Republican establishment. Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN), was even more explicit, arguing that “many of the outside groups do what they do solely to raise money.” The new establishment is bolstered by conservative talk show hosts who communicate regularly with Republican loyalists and have challenged the party’s elected leaders for control over its message.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-gops-fight-has-just-begun/

It sounds like a battle between conservatives who adopt a "elections have consequences" faction and one "seeing compromise as a form of capitulation". Obviously, many republicans seem to jump back and forth between these camps, while some seem stuck forever in the latter camp. Are they factions of temporary convenience or of misguided 'principle'?

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The GOP’s (Internal) Fight Has Just Begun (Original Post) pampango Dec 2013 OP
Its sorta like the one some people are trying to stoke within the... Historic NY Dec 2013 #1

Historic NY

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1. Its sorta like the one some people are trying to stoke within the...
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:50 PM
Dec 2013

Democratic Party.

Republicans will coalesce with the 11th Commandment, they always do.

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