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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:34 PM Dec 2013

1 in 200 Women Say They've Had a 'Virgin Pregnancy'

An unbelievable-sounding new study finds that one in 200 young American women claims to have experienced a virgin pregnancy, à la the Virgin Mary.

The US researchers looked into a long-term, confidential study about reproductive health, and found that 45 of the 7,870 women involved said they had become pregnant without ever having had vaginal intercourse or going through in-vitro fertilization, AFP reports. Of those, 31% had made a "chastity pledge" of the type popular among Christian groups. The research was published in the British Medical Journal.

Milestones through PregnancyA lead author explains: The subjects "weren't asked a question 'Have you had a virgin pregnancy?'" Rather, the findings were "put together from a series of questions about pregnancy history and vaginal intercourse history." She adds that it's possible some of the women "did not want to admit that they had intercourse," or perhaps misunderstood the questions, seeing as the results are rather "unrealistic."

She adds: "We actually found a few virgin fathers as well-which is a little harder to get your head around." LiveScience points out that the study's real finding is the problems inherent in researching sensitive information: "Scientists may still face challenges when collecting self-reported data on sensitive topics," despite taking precautions.

http://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/1-200-women-39-ve-had-39-virgin-194000952.html

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1 in 200 Women Say They've Had a 'Virgin Pregnancy' (Original Post) joeybee12 Dec 2013 OP
Proving once again in yet another way that men are really unnecessary Berlum Dec 2013 #1
What is shows is that girls who take chastity pledges LIE BainsBane Dec 2013 #2
Well now, hold on... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #4
Here is some more info BainsBane Dec 2013 #7
This is what the lack of comprehensive sexual education does for you Major Nikon Dec 2013 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2013 #5
That explains all the kids named "Jesus" jberryhill Dec 2013 #6
It's possible for someone to have sexual activity that ends short pnwmom Dec 2013 #8
Thank you. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #19
Yes, it is possible. A doctor was talking about the same way on TV not long ago too. n/t Tx4obama Dec 2013 #23
They always talked about it in "sex ed" classes in the late '60s-early '70s... regnaD kciN Dec 2013 #31
I had a friend who said that's ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #26
It's very unlikely but I'm sure it's possible. Pre-ejaculate also contains pnwmom Dec 2013 #32
According to her, ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #34
I've had a lot of virgin olive oil. But no babies ever turned up in the salad. Squinch Dec 2013 #9
I live in Florida. All we have here is Gigolo/Whore Olive Oil. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #24
I only use that in Putanesca. Squinch Dec 2013 #30
I suppose all of those women have gone to Notre Dame University in South Bend, IN. madinmaryland Dec 2013 #10
It would be interesting if there were a slightly higher number of claims for female births Silent3 Dec 2013 #11
Come to think of it, Jesus must have been a female. Coyotl Dec 2013 #12
They see Chayssus in their toast too. lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #13
Cuckoos B Calm Dec 2013 #14
What is amazing are these mothers and daughters that look alike…almost like self-replicating clones. Tikki Dec 2013 #15
We should be knee-deep in saviors in no time! FiveGoodMen Dec 2013 #16
Is it possible that some of them were raped? ecstatic Dec 2013 #17
Or they already have mental health issues Aerows Dec 2013 #21
I'm more disturbed by that aspect fujiyama Dec 2013 #29
Doesn't it say something about society Aerows Dec 2013 #18
Says more about the pollsters and the whistler162 Dec 2013 #20
You could be right about that, too Aerows Dec 2013 #22
Suuure, they did! MrScorpio Dec 2013 #25
It is a well known fact that a certain percentage of survey respondents fuck with pollsters LeftyMom Dec 2013 #27
Bad jokes about watermelon and pumpkin seeds come to mind. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #28
What, did they sit on their boyfriend's "lucky sock"? Vashta Nerada Dec 2013 #33
Come on !! It was the toilet seat. It's always the toilet seat's fault !!! Monk06 Dec 2013 #35
The legacy of abstinence-only education and the Christian Right. alp227 Dec 2013 #36
Mystery solved. They didn't have vaginal intercourse pnwmom Dec 2013 #37

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
2. What is shows is that girls who take chastity pledges LIE
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:37 PM
Dec 2013

That is it.

This article about this study has more info. http://news.yahoo.com/39-virgin-births-39-reveal-problems-health-surveys-005455494.html?bcmt=comments-postbox

More than 30 percent of the women reporting apparent virgin births in this study had signed chastity pledges, compared with 15 percent of non-virgins who reported pregnancies and 20 percent of the other virgins.

The researchers also found that parents of women who reported virgin births were more likely to indicate lower levels of communication with their children about sex and birth control. The women, however, were not particularly more religious than the rest of the participants, according to the study published today (Dec. 17) in the medical journal BMJ.


Mystery solved.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. Well now, hold on...
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:41 PM
Dec 2013

There are at least some higher vertebrates that are capable of parthenogenesis - whiptail lizards, for example.

Who's to say that these women aren't a strange mutation of self-fertilizing female humans? I'm sure they'd be willing ot undergo a battery of tests and examinations. Imagine the medical breakthroughs this could lead to!

I mean sure they could be lying, and occam's razor says they probably are, but hey! Biology teaches us that nothing is impossible

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
7. Here is some more info
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:44 PM
Dec 2013

I justed added to my post from the other article

More than 30 percent of the women reporting apparent virgin births in this study had signed chastity pledges, compared with 15 percent of non-virgins who reported pregnancies and 20 percent of the other virgins.

The researchers also found that parents of women who reported virgin births were more likely to indicate lower levels of communication with their children about sex and birth control. The women, however, were not particularly more religious than the rest of the participants, according to the study published today (Dec. 17) in the medical journal BMJ.


Then there is the possibility that these kids just don't know how babies are made. Kids think they can do all kinds of stuff and not call it sex.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
3. This is what the lack of comprehensive sexual education does for you
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:39 PM
Dec 2013

I'm sure there's still no shortage of bumpkins who believe their daughters can get pregnant from sharing bathwater with their brothers.

Response to joeybee12 (Original post)

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
31. They always talked about it in "sex ed" classes in the late '60s-early '70s...
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:30 AM
Dec 2013

...to hammer home the point that, not only shouldn't you Do It before marriage, but you shouldn't Do "Everything But..." either, because you could get just as pregnant from only "heavy petting."

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
26. I had a friend who said that's
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:03 PM
Dec 2013

what happened to her. She had no reason to lie to me - when I met her she was married and had two children.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
32. It's very unlikely but I'm sure it's possible. Pre-ejaculate also contains
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:16 AM
Dec 2013

a small amount of sperm,and that's where people tend to get careless.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
34. According to her,
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:43 AM
Dec 2013

he ejaculated before penetration was accomplished. I guess it hit close enough to travel.....those little suckers are pretty mobile.

Silent3

(15,220 posts)
11. It would be interesting if there were a slightly higher number of claims for female births
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 08:57 PM
Dec 2013

If spontaneous human parthenogenesis is possible, it would probably still be so very, very rare that not even one in 7870 women would have been likely to have experienced it.

That said, to the very limited extent that such births might remotely be possible, the offspring would have to female, being that no Y chromosome would be available.

It's not just cultural sexism that makes the birth of a male Jesus a better miracle story than the birth of a female savior would have been.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. Come to think of it, Jesus must have been a female.
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:06 PM
Dec 2013

Either she had some serious gender bending issues and like 12 guys, or some patriarchal types changed the story on us.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. Or they already have mental health issues
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:37 PM
Dec 2013

and were victims of rape or incest. It doesn't surprise me that they would attempt to rationalize it in another way. Sad.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
29. I'm more disturbed by that aspect
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:16 PM
Dec 2013

It's possible many of the responses were made just to fuck with the pollsters, but there is the possibility that many of these responses are basically trying to rationalize acts of sexual abuse.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. Doesn't it say something about society
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 09:33 PM
Dec 2013

when .5% of women would rather say they got pregnant via God than that they had sex with a man?

It says that .5% of women have mental health issues, the same rate as men do at fertile age. Schizophrenics regularly talk to God, see God and hear God. It isn't too hard to believe that some women would either choose to believe they got pregnant by God or by divine intervention rather than that they had sex.

I don't find this surprising at all. People with mental health issues ... having mental health issues that reflect that they have experiences that possibly contributed to further mental health issues (like rape and incest).

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
27. It is a well known fact that a certain percentage of survey respondents fuck with pollsters
Wed Dec 18, 2013, 10:04 PM
Dec 2013

and say the craziest thing possible. Also a certain percentage of people don't understand even well-designed questions, either because they're idiots or because there's a language barrier.

alp227

(32,027 posts)
36. The legacy of abstinence-only education and the Christian Right.
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:58 AM
Dec 2013

But hey, creationism and homophobia still thrive in large swaths of Amurka huh?

Read my rant about that : http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024197860

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
37. Mystery solved. They didn't have vaginal intercourse
Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
Dec 2013

and they didn't do in-vitro fertilization, which is fertilization outside the body.

Come on, people! They used a turkey baster . . . or equivalent.

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