Did we ever find a picture of the 3-4 feet of hail in Mexico City?

[snooper2]

I went looking for that thread and can't find it...

Wanted to show my wife

[sinkingfeeling]

1. I found pictures of the hail storm in Mexico City, but didn't see any of

3 to 4 feet of hail.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200608/25/eng20060825_296743.html



and this one from Orlando Florida in 1992:

[snooper2]

4. That looks like a Honda Ad lol, and why is she barefoot

[madokie]

90. Also look at her left hand

look closely and you can see she is holding a bowl, pipe to those who aren't familiar with the pot smokers vocab

[zappaman]

92. Whoa!

Nice catch!

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Don't worry, next time will stick to not posting what CNN does not pick up

And if I do, will keep it in metric...you can do your conversion.

But Rhandhi rhodes is correct, if it's not on your tv, it never happened.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. It was on teleformula

The block or so with that..they showed it, reported it at a meter...they also said polanco and palmas got concentrations of half a meter...and the rest in centimeters.

But since CNN did not pick on it, it never happened.

Oh and for some strange reason teleformula, which I quoted, does not do YouTube uploads that I coud find

Suffice I to say, after this I will post in metric when applicable, if. Even chose to post it. If it's not on your tv, it did no happen...never mind I was ten minutes from the worst affected area, and the taxi driver was forced to take an alterate route since the road to the airport was closed due to yes, ice.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. I posted those, but that's ok

I discovered just how right Rhandhi Rhodes is in that.

I went and found something else of interest in climactic change, but won't bother posting it here. It really does not matter. (Well it does, but not fit for here)

[Aerows]

26. Idiots listen to everything CNN says

Keep on keeping on, Nadin. If they are talking bad about what you have to say, well, at least they are giving someone else a rest.

[zappaman]

27. Yup.

Suffice it to say, if CNN did not pick on it, it really never happened.

[Aerows]

34. Well

Considering that I went through Katrina and lived through its devastation, I get extremely cautious when I hear CNN report on any damn thing regarding natural disasters.

Would you like to refute that CNN was an army of idiots reporting on a disaster, or would you like for me to tell you first hand what it was like, because I was here, start to finish, during another disaster and their "coverage".

[zappaman]

37. greatest news video ever, IMO

[Aerows]

38. sad

We had 35 feet of water. So deep it floated up an airplane fueling tank into the middle of Interstate 10.

And yeah, you could float a canoe - you could also pray for your life and float a barge into a main intercoastal bridge. A 35 foot fishing boat ended up inside the local AutoZone.

Same difference. That's what pisses me off about CNN. They are all about, "well it was bad, but look what happened today in BFE, Nebraska. A creek overflowed and 12 schoolchildren spent the day reveling in the fact that school was out, and they got to play in the water!"

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. In defense of cnn español...

They have a few good interview programs. Aristegui reminds me of Rachel Maddow, or is it the other way around?

She does not bother with softballs. But you will not see anybody like her from the studios in Atlanta, for the internal market that is.

I need to find out if they stream her, she is that good.

[Aerows]

41. In defense of cnn español

They probably aren't as co-opted by corporations and politics as we are in the US. I don't think anything highlights how badly our news media is under the control of corporate sponsorship than.. well, just listening to it ever could, these days.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. What amazes me is that CNN I

And foreign editions is where good reporters go to. Partly they have local competition that is less coopted.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. And I find you fit for my ignore list

If you find me offensive I suggest the same.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

45. welcome to the Iggy list

we are forming a club...

sP

[zappaman]

49. At this point

it would be the biggest group on DU!

[Aerows]

35. Or I could tell you about their BP coverage

That took place right here, too.

Please bring it if you think they are a substantive source of news.

[tammywammy]

6. Since you also posted there are 60cm in a meter

Keeping it metric might not be a good idea either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. I know if CNN does not pick on it, well it never happened

Sad but true observation from Rhandhi Rhodes.

[tammywammy]

9. 3 or 4 feet of hail would get local coverage at least.

You'd think there would be at least one picture of such a meteorological sight.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Teleformula does not do YouTube

So I guess it was done at the special effects studio in churubusco. Regardless since CNN never picked on it, it really never happened.

[tammywammy]

15. Well the links you provided already had some pictures.

3-4 feet of hail is quite something. I'm sure someone somewhere would have gotten a picture.

BTW, I'm not doubting you because it wasn't on CNN, I'm doubling you because I've failed to see any source say that much hail fell. And then there's the fact you posted that there are 60cm in a meter, so I'd pretty much doubt any metric conversion from you.

Have a good day!

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. I know, teleformula, the equivalent of CBS

filmed that report at the special effects studio in churubusco.

Who knew.

[Brickbat]

20. I think it's much more likely that the hail drifted into large piles, as is common after hailstorms,

and that was what was shown on TV. No need for conspiracy at all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. What conspiracy?

Don't worry, next freak weather event will not bother. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

[Brickbat]

60. Oh, the "special effects" you keep talking about, as if asking for details about an event means the

questioner thinks the whole thing was a conspiracy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. No I saw it on my tv

But from reactions here it had to be special effects.

Don't worry, since our media never picked it up it never happened. Next time I am in a freak weather event in a foreign country, will limit my circle to those in my direct family who might want to know we are safe.

As far as du is concerned, this event never happened. And I will not make this mistake of posting, and quoting reporters, again.

Rhodes is right... Have a good day. Don't worry, all of us in that flight from Mexico City to San Diego had a collective outbreak of the imagination. Several of us also imagined the closed route to the airport, which Ed to another route. So did my taxi driver, n the midst of it, or my Sister in Law.

Damn we had extremely good imaginations. But won't bother with this ever again here.

The list is growing.

[Brickbat]

64. Which...is pretty much exactly what I was talking about.

[tammywammy]

23. Which is exactly what I said.

Or not. If it makes you feel better to distort what I posted, feel free to continue to do so. I know you have a difficult time when people request more information about things you've posted. I mean hearing there was 3-4 feet of hail! How dare me to doubt such an amazing meteorological event!

And since you posted there are 60cm to a meter that must be true too. I should have learned by now to never doubt anything you post. You're always right and I'm sorry for questioning anything you've ever posted.

Have a good day!

[zappaman]

25. Finally!

You are getting with the program!

[nadinbrzezinski]

28. I am not distorting a thing

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Reporter said from the field UN metro de concentración de hielo.

I guess it is my fault they did not upload video to YouTube. Alas they did not.

By the way I made a mistake with the metric system. I was running a 38.8 centigrade temp at the time. We are all human. Right now it s down to 37.6... Yes, my thermometer is set to centigrade. So that is life...feel free to convert, or not. Suffice I to say IT IS HIGH. I am not perfect, but won't bother posting any weird weather event again. Especially one that happens in a foreign country.

Don't worry will post, offsite mind you, what I found of the frequency of these events, which matters...but not here. I really don't care.

[zappaman]

30. And just like that...

DU loses the one poster who is always right and has done the best job of keeping us fools informed.
I hope you think about it and continue to post.
How else would I know there are 60cm in a meter, American is a language, and that the United States consists of 51 states?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

36. this is par for the course

1) post bullshit ... even if it is misinterpreted bullshit
2) get called on it
3) keep insisting that miraculous event occurred and that it was reported on (even though you could just say 'I fucked up')
3a) never provide any factual evidence of the posted bullshit (in reality it doesn't exist)
4) attempt to belittle your detractors (in this case by suggesting they only watch CNN because that is sooo common here on DU)
5) keep getting called on it
6) repeat 2-5 as needed
7) claim martyr status and run away even deleting the OP

sP

[zappaman]

39. Suffice it to say...

You pretty much nailed it, yup.

[Aerows]

31. 2.56 X 1 = cm x in

60cm / 2.56 = 23.6 inches. 12 inches = 2 feet.

Hope that clarifies things (rounding up, as most do).

[tammywammy]

47. And 60cm still doesn't equal 1 meter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=415092

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. Have you ever made a mistake

And THE REPORTER SAID UN METRO.

Sorry, teleformula did not upload to YouTube for your viewing pleasure.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. There, event never happened

I hope that makes you happy.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

52. scrubbing the whole thread now?

that's a very interesting tactic...

sP

[zappaman]

54. weak sauce indeed n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

58. Since it never happened

There you go. It did...but since us media never picked on it, well it never, ever happened.

I hope that makes you happy.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

61. damn...i thought i was ignored

but since you're reading, this is your typical response...you get called on your misreporting of a story and you go hide... normally you just hide yourself but in this case you decided to wipe your trail... but you are right about two things: there was no icestorm and there was no situation where 4 feet of hail fell from the sky (your own posted links prove that).

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. You are correct

The Mexican media collectively imagined this. They also imagined the 12 injuries and the road closures due to ice. Oh and the two roof collapses...

I guess they add good stuff to that water. No wonder there s a war on drugs...it's in the damn municipal water system.

Next time will keep this to those in close family who care. DU...well you know.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

66. you just can't admit it, can you?

you were wrong or your source was wrong. three to four FEET of hail would be an epic event. it just doesn't happen. it might have drifted into an area to a single spot that deep but even your own source documentation links suggested no more than a few inches which would be perfectly possible for a hail storm.

but, you effectively call us that disagree with you and call you on your 'reporting' ignorant by suggesting that if it didn't show up on CNN it must not have happened as far as we're concerned. i have probably watched a total of one hour of CNN in the last three years and only then because it was on the damned TV's in the airport.

ever the fucking martyr...slain again.

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. Admit what

As far as du and the us it never happened. If it was not on your tv, it never happened.

And since this is the attitude unless us media picks on the story, I will not bother posting.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

71. are you really going to suggest that you don't understand the previous post?

you cannot admit you were FUCKING WRONG...you cannot even type the words. even when you get close it was just a mistake...you never own it. and you even lied about ignoring me...FFS.

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. I actually did and even explained why I made a mistake with the metric

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Alas I saw it on the ten o'clock news. As I said, it must have been done at the churubusco special effects studio.

Don't worry, next time I am in the midst of a weird weather event, especially abroad, I will NOT post it here.

Nor will I bother posting here (already did off site) the significant part on the frequency of these events. It really does not matter to some at DU.

And since it was NOT on your tv, it never happened.

[snooper2]

74. you see my new OP? ( I FOUND THE HAIL VIDEO) ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002420386

[ProdigalJunkMail]

75. still with the bullshit...

unbelievable...

ever the fucking martyr...

i love the smell of martyrdom in the afternoon...

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. Here you go, snooper found one video

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002420386

But it really never happened. Nor was a freak hail storm.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

83. one video

that doesn't show nearly what YOU reported and STILL HAVEN'T FUCKING RETRACTED or even CORRECTED. you don't fucking get it. you cannot say "I was wrong." you are utterly incapable of it. you shift and accuse and insult all while still being dead wrong. the video shows a reporter in about 1.5ft of hail that has washed up due to runoff (that's less than 50cm). but you still want to crow, "LOOK LOOK someone found the video!!"

while they found the video that makes you look more ridiculous than ever...

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. I said it was at that depth in two small areas

As in block sized areas ... Which is what I posted. I posted most of it was in the centimeter range. You go do conversions.

And how exactly is one of the NEWS videos make me look ridiculous. You said this never, ever, cross my heart, happened. Well, here you go...actual evidence that it did. And you still continue the personal attacks.

Let's be hoest here, if I posted the sky is blue outside my window and it's sunny, you'd say that's not possible.

Now the actual teleforma, I have not found...they never uploaded it. I guess that is my fault too.

But truth be told I can post I have the tv on tuned to msnbc and you'd dispute it.

That is the truth.

So that's the truth.

But don't worry, next freak weather event, ESPECIALLY IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, I will not post here. I mean they never, ever, cross your heart, happened.

Next freak weather event in San Diego, I will be out there documenting and not posting here anyway.

But don't trust me, turn to NOAA weather, maybe you can trust them...it s nice and sunny out my window right now.

Oh goody more special effects from churubusco!!!!

&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ProdigalJunkMail]

86. you still can't do it

and you're still insulting...and still wrong...

but you conveniently deleted all your posts so now your tracks are covered.

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

87. I'd say at this point the one having an issue with facts is you

That is Avenida de Los Ahuehuetes. They removed upwards of fifty METRIC tons of ice from the storm.

You can even WATCH the video. But you still cannot admit that perhaps the ORIGINAL OP was correct. It was a freak hail storm. It did concentrate in more than just half a centimeter in some places. But all the video evidence will not be enough for you. It's all about proving how bad I am. Sorry bob, there is increasing evidence as they are finally uploaded. Or did this reporter also make it up and that was the special effects studio at Churubusco? I mean if this was SoCal, I'd have to mention ILM.

I am not fixated on you. At this point I find this, quite frankly, comical.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

89. because your OP said 4 to 6 feet of hail FELL to the GROUND

it did NOT. it washed up in piles a foot, MAYBE two feet, deep. it is not the same thing. but you won't ever admit that you were wrong and now you can say, "you have your facts wrong" because you conveniently deleted the bullshit you posted that shows you fighting over an over again to show you are right all the while insulting anyone who disagreed with you by suggesting that they are incapable of accepting news from other countries...the problem is YOUR NEWS IS WRONG.

i would wager i have been to more countries than you and have interacted with more diverse cultures than you have but the funny thing is you get to sit behind your safe little computer screen and accuse me of being myopic...you're a joke.

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

98. Yes and then I corrected myself

Since you have never made a mistake. I removed it, and I will not post another freak weather event here again.

I also explained, not that you care, why I made a few errors.

As to the meter or so in depth fall, sorry bob, teleforma has not uploaded the video, and it was a block or so as well.

As to the mechanism...there are a few likely explanations. But Avenida de Los Ahuehuetes received fifty metric tons and about half a meter hail fall in a block or two, as the video showed it took all night to clear, more or less. Periferico Constituyentes was closed due to ice at five in the morning, when the taxi driver drove by it. we took the Acueducto and wondered if Avenida Churubusco, which was flooded out overnight, was already clear, which it was.

There were major traffic problems due to floods. There were twelve minor injuries, with two people taken to the Red Cross hospital in Polanco by Red Cross Medics and two roofs did indeed collapse. One a false roof in polanco at a movie theater, the other at a market in the Delegación Venustiano Carranza.

But you are correct, it NEVER EVER HAPPENED Prodigaljunkmail, all emerging evidence, in video or photos, you were demanding, to the contrary. This is why this is so damn comical at this point. You are getting what you DEMANDED and you accuse me of doing what YOU are doing.

I removed thread and the rest since I did not feel like dealing with this crap. Lesson learned DO NOT POST WHAT HAPENS IN OTHER COUNTRIES UNTIL THEIR MEDIA POST VIDEOS. in the case of mexico it seems to take 72 hours or longer. Such is life. This means do not post, period.

Oh and here is a piece of trivia...the pattern of storms fits the science for something your neighbors to the South are not in denial over. This is why these freak events are of interest when they are indeed part of a pattern, which this is.

Have a good day... At this point you have actually made me smile, even if I still feel like crap. Fevers are all but fun, so thank you. Believe it or not you brightened my day. This high comedy is quite lovely. You should consider the improv. Now better check on that temp...

[ProdigalJunkMail]

102. you removed it because you got caught

all the rest of this is sophistry to make you look like the victim and so you can play martyr...but at least you can admit you were wrong, and in that I will gladly eat crow and apologize for saying you could not do so.

nadin, i have nothing against you. i really don't. sometimes you post really compelling stuff. and i am not certain what all of this was about for you.

i do hope you get well...and if my insanity over factual correctness brought a smile to your face then i will be glad in that.

sP

[nadinbrzezinski]

104. No I removed it because I did not want to deal with it

I corrected a conversion done while running a 38.4 centigrade fever. Sorry bob, I made an error in conversions. I owned to it, but that is not enough for the perfect people like you. So after the constant harrastment I removed it. I will not post freak weather events here again, especially if they Happen in a place where we now have emerging evidence I was right.

But I did revise and then just stuck to metric. And from now on I will be lazy and post in metric when units of measure are given in metric. I am sure somebody as perfect as you can handle the conversion. But in this case, notwithstanding emerging evidence that some areas got more ice than just a few centimeters you are digging heels. It s damn hilarious to be honest. It is improv worthy. You should consider comedy.

By the way there are wonderful places for you to convert that to Fahrenheit if you care. My thermometer is set to centigrade and I am not going to bother with it except when I go to the doctor.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

106. oh, well...i tried... n/t

[zappaman]

108. Slapped that olive branch right out of your hand, eh?

Better luck next time.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

109. there won't be a next time

maybe she will keep her word and put me on ignore like she said she would...maybe not.

sP

[zappaman]

72. Again with the bullshit

No one is saying it didn't happen cuz it wasn't on TV or CNN or whatever.
What is being said is that you were wrong. Either you made it up or possibly saw it on the Martyr Network.

[SammyWinstonJack]

114. The "Martyr Network"

[snooper2]

67. If there was that much hail SOMEBODY would have put it on youtube..I found all kinds of vids

What date did this happen?

That would ease my search a little---

For example, from 25-02-2012

[tammywammy]

55. Of course I've made mistakes.

I own up to them, instead of digging in my heels and telling people they must only watch CNN. See when it was pointed out to you that 60cm does not equal 1 meter, instead of saying 'oops, my bad' you said 'we must be talking about different units of measurement.'

[nadinbrzezinski]

57. You are perfect I see

Have a good life. I told you why...welcome to my ignore list.

I hope you never make a mistake. Hell. On this thread there is one...I will refrain from pointing it out. Have a good fracking long life.

Anyhow I deleted the thread and all my posts on that thread. The event never happened. You are correct, it was all special effects.

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. Disturbing how?

I made a mistake. I was running a 38.4 centigrade temp at the time. I owned the mistake. I even explained why, high fevers lead to such errors.

And that is that. Some folks are just perfect. I am not.

I admitted to it.

As to conversions, i will no longer bother with them.

I will not bother posting freak weather events either.

[Whisp]

80. I didn't word that the right way so I just deleted that whole thing. n/t

[ProdigalJunkMail]

59. congratulations...welcome

you made so much sense you have joined the club. logic and sense win... even if ignored.

sP

[Aerows]

53. I offered a mathematical conversion calculation

I hope it was found valuable.

[SidDithers]

81. Except it was wrong too...

there are 2.54 cm in an inch, not 2.56.

Sid

[Aerows]

82. You are so cute :)

[Speck Tater]

3. It was three or four INCHES, not feet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002410322

Apparently the original poster self-deleted for some reason.

Here's the original link: http://noticias.terra.com.mx/mexico/df/sorprende-tormenta-con-granizo-a-capitalinos,66c3c499a8ff5310VgnVCM4000009bf154d0RCRD.html

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Actually that is a blog

But that's ok. I deleted it because if CNN does not pick on a story it never happened, even when it affected tens of thousands, led to twelve injuries, and a market roof collapse, and a major road closure.

Don't worry, it isn't on CNN it never happened.

So won't bother with posting reports from reporters in the field demonstrating depth either.

If CNN did not pick on it, it really never happened.

[Speck Tater]

13. I'd be curoius to learn the facts.

Please don't hide facts from us just because,... well, frankly I don't understand what kind of point you're trying to make by hiding information. Do we at DU really need to be protected from reality? And is that your job? Shouldn't we be openly sharing information in an effort to combat the kind of censorship we so dislike at places like Fox and CNN instead of collaborating with them to keep it hidden?

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. You got the facts there

Half a meter concentrations in polanco and palmas...a meter in one block area...in Reforma

Periferico constituents was closed due to ice at five in the morning

12 minor injuries

The Carranza market roof collapsed

As well as a roof over a movie theater

And a benz stuck in ice on moliere and conscripto.

Those are the facts.

But next time i am in the middle of a freak weather event, this was, will not post.

[Speck Tater]

18. I guess I don't understand why you intend to let us remain uniformed in the future.

What, exactly, is the point you are trying to make?

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. None. I am not interested

That's all.

[snooper2]

68. Found some more vids, I tell you EVERYTHING is on youtube by the way...

I'm not finding 1+ foot or anywhere near a meter though...

Two more vids... (You stating Reforma really helped narrow my searching )

&feature=related

[nadinbrzezinski]

70. The video came from teleforma

And they have not uploaded it. Corner of Chapultepec and Reforma to be specific.

And yes, it is annoying but most likely the cops closed access to most.

[MineralMan]

22. Oh, for pete's sake. You got it wrong. So what?

There was a hailstorm, and a pretty big one, apparently. But hail didn't fall a meter deep. It might have drifted up somewhere, carried by runoff, but that's not how much hail fell. It looks like maybe three or four inches.

If you make a mistake, there's nothing wrong with that. Deleting your post, rather than editing it, and then getting all passive-aggressive about this "if CNN..." stuff just doesn't work.

A hailstorm. They happen all over. We had a cool one here last summer, with golf ball sized hail. It was pretty dramatic. There were photos in the local paper, too. CNN did not cover it. Why would they? It's just a freaking hailstorm.

[zappaman]

24. Actually, everyone else got it wrong

Suffice it to say, there are 60cm in a meter.
Yup, there was 4-6 feet of hail in Mexico.

[MineralMan]

29. Only if you measure with a clock.

It's easy to get all those measurements all mixed up, you know. 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour. Naturally, you'd think that there were 60 centimeters in a meter. It's just a natural mistake. Damned metric system! I blame the French, you know, for that nonsense. Give me good old English measurements, dammit. If 16 inches don't make a dozen and 12 ounces don't make a crown, then I'll be a monkey's uncle.

I've had about enough of those confusing divide by ten metric measurements. If God had wanted us to count by tens, why the hell did he give us 12 fingers in the first place?

/rant

[msanthrope]

76. I never got past "a pint's a pound, the whole world 'round," myself. nt

[girl gone mad]

85. By the way, that reminds me..

will you admit you were mistaken when you advised people that it was perfectly safe to ingest low doses of radioactive iodine because doctors administer higher doses to KILL a patient's thyroid?

You made a pretty big mistake promoting that ill-informed viewpoint, and unlike miscalculating amounts of hail, your erroneous arguments could have actually caused harm. Last I remember, you refused to admit you were wrong.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

88. she never admits she is wrong

occasionally (meaning once) she admitted to a mistake...but that's not the same as, "I posted factually incorrect information that was misleading and may have caused harm if acted upon." given her pattern it will never happen.

sP

[sabrina 1]

91. 'Someone was wrong on the internet' and a virtual small army of men took it upon themselves

to conduct a several years-long campaign to let the whole world, or maybe just a couple of morons on a rightwing website, beat this super-important issue to death, over and over and over again, year after year. The boys weren't having much fun lately, so I guess it was necessary to help them out?

Watching this an outside observer might wonder about those men and what compels them to feel that a woman being wrong on the internet is such an important issue that they simply cannot, no matter what else is going on in the world, drag themselves away from this compelling story. So obsessed that none of them can even find the tools made available to them to prevent them from ever seeing someone being wrong on the internet.

And I should mention that a couple of women got involved also, just like schoolyard bullies, there is always a cheering section when someone is bullied.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

93. people post bullshit and it gets called out

if she would admit it, all would be done...but she doesn't. she insults. she shifts. she brings it on herself.

correcting incorrect information is not bullying...despite your (and nadin's) efforts to redefine it.

sP

OnEdit : maybe she has a victim-complex...it sort of fits.

[sabrina 1]

97. 'She brings on herself'. Well, that sounds familiar.

She is under no obligation to 'admit' anything to a bunch of people who everyone knows now have been stalking her for years, on two forums, almost in sync with each other. But, yes, they are not to blame at all, 'she brings it on herself'.

How do you feel about those freepers stalking DUers btw?

Just USE IGNORE! It will solve all of your problems with this.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

100. but she is obligated to correct her shit

and once again...bullying and stalking are words you use to falsely characterize people who start off correcting and then just get pissed because of her bullshit.

i ignore no one. she has on occasion posted interesting information. but when she posts bullshit i will continue to point it out. if she (or anyone, for that matter) corrects it that will be the end of it and we will carry on. but when i point out that someone has posted information that is factually incorrect, and that poster proceeds to insult me, shift the topic, delete their posts all the while touting how correct they were...yeah, i am going to let that slide.

go run your own board where posting bullshit is ok if that is what you want to do...don't lecture me on how to be a member of this board.

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[zappaman]

96. So this is a gender issue?

ANYONE who makes up stories and reports them as facts, and then takes on a condescending attitude when called on their bullshit and even goes so far to dig themselves deeper while making up even more facts, deserves to be called out.
There are not "51 states", there aren't "60 cms in a meter", etc...regardless of the sex of who is saying it.
Please link to one reply on any post that brings up this OP's gender...besides yours of course.

[sabrina 1]

99. Well, when I see a bunch of freeper men stalking a female DUer

and attacking her with very specific gender based comments, some way too disgusting to repeat, while some male DUers who obviously have far more knowledge of that site than I did when I first discovered, remained silent about those despicable, although considering the rightwing source, not surprising comments made against as womwan, and continued to feed them with fodder as they are doing today, yes, as a woman, I find it appalling that no matter how you feel about the person (she makes mistakes, she doesn't apologize, so let them attack her, she deserves it?) any decent person would refuse to play into it and simply use their ignore feature.

In fact, this situation is very similar to a case that occurred a few years ago and even the excuses for following her around, almost identical. That case was brought to the attention of the media by the woman and all their vile, gender based comments made into the public arena where the reaction was quite different to the apparent reaction from some DUers to what they saw on that site. The cowards all scattered and scrubbed their comments once the media spotlight focused on them.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

107. i am not a freeper...

and now YOU descend to insults, too. figures... oh, and what were these 'gender specific' comments, pray tell, that i used?

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[sabrina 1]

110. Read my post again.

It did not say you were a freeper.

As for the freeper gender based comments, sorry, they are far too vile to repeat. But if I had no problem seeing them, anyone familiar with that site had no problem either. And anyone who did see them and in any way encouraged them by joining their obsession, is responsible for their own part in encouraging them.

Someone being wrong on the internet is no excuse for becoming obsessed with that person. And anyone who finds themselves so obsessed, has more to worry about than someone being wrong on the internet.

The solution is simple.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

111. what freepers are stalking her then?

i have very rarely only read off this site that you mention and have never had an account there and never posted. so what are you talking about and why are you talking about it here? your post clearly said, "when i see a bunch of freeper men stalking a female DUer" on a thread that, to this point, hasn't mentioned anything about a link to people from any other site. that would indicate you are talking about people IN THIS THREAD. so...who and what did they say?

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[ProdigalJunkMail]

113. once again...

what freepers are you talking about? what are the people on this board doing to 'feed' them. the comments, corrections and questions i have made are limited to this board and i don't have any knowledge of what goes on with this other board.

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[sabrina 1]

94. Wow, so someone here in this thread

was wrong about something that could actually have caused someone else harm? I did not see that but if true, that is a pretty big mistake. I'm sure there was a full admission made publicly and with a warning never to take advice from would-be experts on the internet. And I'm sure those who are so outraged over the 'hail' story, were equally out-raged over that?

[joshcryer]

103. I don't recall it being "recommended" to everyone.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=891785&mesg_id=892421

[MineralMan]

105. Wow! What a memory you have.

I'm afraid I can't answer without a link to the post to which you refer. I'd have to see it in context. Provide the link, and I'll respond.

[Aerows]

33. No

23 inches in some areas. IN SOME AREAS. I wasn't there, just illustrating the distortion in the media. I am familiar with it.

I went through Katrina. There was widespread destruction in oh.. some areas. To those in those areas, it was pretty significant, but when you are attempting to minimize the suffering of people in a natural disaster, it's "minimal".

[ProdigalJunkMail]

46. thanks for asking...

some of us cannot get the images or answers that would back up some of the more fantastic claims... my only guess here is that this was rail that had drifted into one spot due to runoff as all the POSTED LINKS that contained images showed a couple of inches of hail... not the miraculous feet that were claimed. Four feet of hail (even three) would have been worthy of international news like the flooding in Europe a while back...

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[Codeine]

56. This hail was deleted by the hailer. nt

[zappaman]

65. I fear a return to only "crunchy" news. n/t

[librechik]

95. Here it is:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002420386

[Baclava]

101. The sky gods are angry!

I'm averting my eyes

[chrisa]

112. Basically, all of these threads because someone was wrong on the internet? I'll alert the presses!

[SidDithers]

116. This whole thread is full of awesome...

Sid