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Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says that even his home-schooled 12-year-old could out-reason HBO comedian Bill Maher.
During his Friday New Rules segment, Maher had called out Santorums stance against public education.
The Taliban may want to live in the eighth century but the Christian right wants to go back even further to Adam and Eve, who screwed it up for everybody when they ate an apple from the Tree of Knowledge, Maher explained on the March 9 broadcast. Rick Santorum home schools his children because he doesnt want them eating that fucking apple. He wants them locked up in the Christian madrassa that is the family living room, not out in public, where they could be infected by the virus of reason.
If youre a kid and the only adults youve ever met are mom and dad then theyre also the smartest adults youve ever met. Why not keep it that way? why mess up paradise with a lot of knowledge? After all, a mind is a terrible thing to open.
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cindyperry2010
(846 posts)hahahah test for me
Avalux
(35,015 posts)How could it with all that dogma running around, eating up the truth?
yesphan
(1,588 posts)their dogma on a leash lest it devour their homework.
mulsh
(2,959 posts)I think we now know the answer. I guess the teachers at local Catholic Schools are too "progressive" & "liberal" for the Santorums. Lord knows that some of the nuns who taught me have ended doing significant work in the community and in anti-war organizations.
As another poster pointed out a few days ago lots of Catholics know Catholics like Santorum and hate those people. I know my fairly devout parents felt that way about guys like Santorum.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)We're talking about Rick Santorum here. This is the crook who didn't want to send his kids to any of the schools in the DC area when he got elected Senator, so he made the citizens of PA pay for their online schooling.
Santorum is holier than thou but he also pinches pennies in a hundred-ton press.
The two boys went there. A few of them took a summer online program and he counts that as homeschooling. Seriously.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Response to Playinghardball (Original post)
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liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)rurallib
(62,423 posts)proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)Like he did to pay their tuition?
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)otherwise we lose children
librechik
(30,674 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I guess they don't take girls.
The daughter (one of them) went to school too. The other daughter talked about driving her to school in the morning.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Frothy wouldn't recognize logic and reason if they were incarnated as a grizzly bear that chewed his ass off.
Epic fail.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Wake the F up people. When you home school your local school district pays you the per pupil funding rate to preform your teaching job. Yah,right,that will be the day. This whole stinking bit only produces more idiots with a so called education. I really feel for the kids,in my area home schooling is just a method of enhancing family budgets or use as a ruse to hid major family dysfunctionalism.
Justice wanted
(2,657 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)to debate anything more savvy than a wet sponge, Little Ricky.
I feel bad for them--they're going to need years of therapy to get over what your mind games have done.
Initech
(100,081 posts)Sure, Rick. whatever you say.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)I am guessing they will enact daddy's example: "I can't dazzle them with brilliance, so I will baffle them with bullshit!" I am guessing he that is his definition of "logic."
Johonny
(20,852 posts)Holy crap does he understand how little he sounds. This is a guy that will go toe to toe at the G8 with the leaders of the world, but will focus his time instead on what some guy on cable says.
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)2nd question: Who is on the judging panel?
TeamsterDem
(1,173 posts)Rick, Mr. Maher is a comedian. He may express his true feelings in joking form, but it's that joking form you're misunderstanding. In comedic hyperbole the exaggeration is used to draw the laughs; the exaggeration isn't the element of "true feeling" of the speaker, rather the underlying message - however exaggerated - is the point.
A good example of comedic hyperbole in action was an old Richard Pryor act in which he recalled his recent trip to Africa, musing that the animal life in Africa was, well, wild. He stated that after an ambush of a cape buffalo, the African buzzards - instead of circling from a high, safe perch above the lions - pulled up in a truck and said "what it is?" to the lions. The assertion is that African wildlife is much more actually wild than American zoos, not that African buzzards speak English and drive automobiles.
Mr. Maher's point was that you individually - you, Rick Santorum - home school your kids because you want to control which elements of information they get, and you then turn around and call them educated. An educated, "reasonable" person would say that inductive training provides an indoctrination, not an education. Ironic that you - the guy who purposely and actively controls the information available to his children - have the nerve to call a university a center for indoctrination, but that's another issue entirely.
You're a pathetic, narrow-minded, egotistical, homophobic bigot with a flair for hypocrisy and an embarrassing lack of handle on facts and reason. Your kids may well turn out to be very smart, well-adjusted, and, one day, educated people. But your home schooling - for the reasons you've said you are doing it - is not the cause of that. Everyone sympathizes with you that you have a special needs child, and even we liberals sincerely wish you and her the very best - and most of us understand why a parent would want to home school a child with those needs. But the others, they belong in a formal education environment not because home schooling is "always" wrong, but because ideological religious zealots like you can only cause damage teaching a child. As proof I submit your tepid grasp on comedy and why a child's reasoning against a comedian would be anything other than a bragging point because comedians OFTEN use logical fallacies and exaggerations to make a joke.
I'm in your corner in this primary because that rich robot against whom you're competing needs to learn that everything else might be for sale but not votes. But don't misunderstand my self-serving interest in your candidacy: It's to take down two equally creepy birds with one stone. 1 a creepy, out-of-touch rich guy who got that way firing thousands of people. And 2, you and your EXTREMELY bigoted and not terribly constitutional views on ... well, pretty much everything.
I suspect that you know your kids could "out-reason" Bill Maher because they quite likely out-reason you with great frequency. But "out-reasoning" a comedian and "out-reasoning" an bigot aren't exactly the same thing. Perhaps your children could logically dissect Maher's COMEDY show and point out the fallacies. What, though, might they do to your "man on dog" assertions? Well, maybe they're taught to ignore "Biblical" logical problems - in that "education" you're giving them. But the truth is that you have no business questioning anyone else's logic until you yourself can square your own MYRIAD conflicts, namely how you seem to pick passages from the Bible as "God's law" while conveniently ignoring others occurring in that same book. Or am I wrong? Have you been stoning your neighbor for not sacrificing a bull at the altar every Sunday? If not, Rick, you've got some 'splainin to do.