The motherfucker who ruined Christmas

[Bucky]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/10513229/Santa-is-not-real-vicar-tells-primary-school-children.html

[font size="4"]Santa Claus is not real, vicar claims to audience of primary school children[/font]
A vicar infuriated parents by telling their children that Father Christmas was not real at a primary school assembly

A vicar has been forced to apologise after claiming at a primary school assembly that Father Christmas does not exist and recounting the gruesome story of Saint Nicholas.

Reverend Simon Tatton-Brown infuriated parents of youngsters at Charter Primary by questioning the existence of Santa.

He told children that Father Christmas was based on a grisly legend about Saint Nicholas, who bought three murdered children back to life.

The Church of England vicar described how the youngsters were killed by an evil butcher and placed in a barrel to be pickled and sold as ham.

What an asswipe.

[BlueJazz]

1. "to be pickled and sold as ham" Oh..THAT'S a cheery thought. Wonder what pissed them off?

[Bucky]

3. I wonder what pissed that butcher off.

[CJCRANE]

5. I don't know but

Megyn Kelly told me the butcher was white. Fact!

[CJCRANE]

2. I've learned a lot about St. Nicholas in the last few days.

I think it's interesting to learn the "origins story" of Santa Claus.

[ThomThom]

17. I think the Santa in the red suit and beard is a creation of Coke

when parents lie to their children, even about seemingly small things like Santa it can be very damaging. Trust between parents and children can be fragile and ridicule from peers can be devastating

[malaise]

4. The man spoke the truth

We need more not less truth on this planet. Why do we perpetuate stupid lies?

[BlueJazz]

6. Maybe it would have been better if said in March. I understand what you mean though and agree.

[Bucky]

8. Since when is telling stories to children "lying"?

Kids have stories about talking animals, play with toys they imagine to have feelings and personalities, fantasize up imaginary friends and imaginary alternate identities for themselves, and in dozens of other ways interpret reality and truth differently than adults. No child has had a sense of betrayal from finding out that they're parents made up Santa Claus. Unraveling that fable and then coming to understand the social values behind it is part of a child's normal psychological development.

[ThomThom]

18. I don't agree

sorry

[Taitertots]

7. The parents: "How dare he contradict the insane lies that I tell my children" n/t

[Ed Suspicious]

9. I think of it more as a fun sweet tradition of a story than "insane lies that I tell my children."

[Scootaloo]

10. Do you ban fiction from your home?

if your kid comes up with an imaginary friend, do you say "stop being stupid"?

Stories, fiction, and mythology have a role in educating children about reality. They will eventually figure out that santa, the easter bunny, and the tooth fairy aren't real. And then what? Then they'll feel really bright for having figured it out. Good for them, they discovered deductive reasoning.

it only becomes a "lie" once the child figures it out... and you try to persist in telling them it is.

[Taitertots]

11. No, but I won't pretend the Bernstein Bears are real people either

"it only becomes a "lie" once the child figures it out... "
After all... it is only lying if you get caught.

I'd really like to hear you elaborate on your claim that making statements that you know are untrue isn't lying.

[Scootaloo]

12. Because I can differentiate between "a story" and "a lie"

I'll grant it can be a murky space.

Also I like your selective editing there. Funny that someone so offended by the "Santa Claus lie" would make such an effort ot tell a lie of omission themselves

[Taitertots]

13. Apparently you can't...Saying Santa Claus is a real person (lie) is fundamentally different from...

Telling a story. There is almost nothing "murky" about it.

But keep lying to children. I can read the Bernstein Bears without pretending that they are real beings that could come over for diner. Or that an is omnipotent wizard from the north pole is spying on them, has flying animals (that fly without wings), and breaks into their house at night.

[JI7]

14. if a kid has problems it's not because they believed in santa claus, tooth fairy etc

you know most kids are brought up with those or other stories and they naturally grow out of it. usually without needing to be told whether it's real or not or why they were lied to.

people understand childhood and how their perception of things were different when young .

[Kurska]

15. People get all offended when I tell them their god isn't real either.

Seriously bizarre the lengths people will go to to defend imaginary friends.

[okaawhatever]

16. Boy, now that Santa isn't white he's going to get all kinds of bad press. Pretty soon non-white

Santa will be buying toys with EBT cards and having tons of elves for the extra welfare money. If neo-con parents can't afford a lot of toys they'll tell their kids it's because the elves unionized and they can't afford the toys anymore.
This is what happens when Fox news learns you're a minority.....see......it's going to be nothing but ugly Santa stories from here on out. I'll bet this Vicar knows the 60 minutes guy, as they're clearly both shills for Murdoch and his friends.



Yes, I'm just kidding...

[ThomThom]

19. and what of the neighbor kid with rich parents that buy tons of stuff at Christmas

and the kids is the bully of the neighborhood and does all kinds mischief. What is the good child from less well to do think when he gets less?