Two House Democrats Lead Effort to Stab Students, Veterans in the Back

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http://www.thenation.com/blog/177581/two-house-democrats-lead-effort-stab-students-veterans-back

Students and veterans helped deliver big campaign victories for the Democratic Party in recent elections. Now, some Democratic lawmakers are thanking them by trying to ensure that predatory businesses can rip them off and saddle them with a lifetime of debt.

TheNation.com has learned that a small group of House Democrats, led by Representatives Rob Andrews of New Jersey and Alcee Hastings of Florida, are organizing an effort within the caucus to protect the for-profit career college industry from any meaningful regulation. The two congressmen are among the largest recipients of campaign cash from the industry. Campaign finance data compiled by TheNation.com show Hastings has received $54,500, and Andrews $78,547, from for-profit college executives and political committees.

Unlike non-profit private or public universities, proprietary career colleges exist to make money; lot's of it. For-profit colleges takes in some $33 billion in taxpayer money annually, funds designed to help veterans and students afford college. For many critics, the entire industry is built upon fraud. Multiple investigations show systematic deception in the industry -- recruiters lying to students about job placement rates, students graduating with incredibly high debt with few employment prospects, and marketing campaigns that obscure what is often a low-quality education.

Students that have gone to for-profit colleges are not only more likely graduate with high levels of debt -- for-profit students hold $31,190 dollars in debt on average, compared to $17,040 at private, nonprofit institutions and $7,960 at public colleges -- they are also three times as likely to default on their loans.

[Wilms]

1. And they both supported Hillary's presidential campaign.

Who would have thought?

[totodeinhere]

11. I don't buy your guilt by association. Plenty of people supported Clinton's campaign

and will support her again if she runs. And many of them are good people. As far as this issue goes, I would ask Clinton what her position on this issue is before casting stones.

[2banon]

20. LOL!!!! Thanks for the laughs...

[totodeinhere]

31. I don't know if I should take that as an insult or not. I supported Clinton during the

last campaign as millions of other Democrats did. Are you saying that this makes us bad?

[Katashi_itto]

27. Lol!!!

[Wilms]

36. You ask her. Then get back to us.

While your waiting for her to answer, here's another article for you to read about sleazeballs from the Clinton clique.

http://www.republicreport.org/2013/panetta-morial/




(Wilms mutters: And a Grayson avatar, to boot.)

[totodeinhere]

38. Yes, I'm a big Grayson fan. But I am not going to dump on the person who will

most likely be our nominee in 2016. What has this forum become, Clinton Haters' Underground?

[Wilms]

39. The Clintons and their ilk DUMP on US.

What? Is this forum the DLC-DINO Underground?

She's not OUR nominee. She's their SHILL.

[totodeinhere]

40. The difference is that I have not expressed hate toward any Democrat as

you have. I also like Elizabeth Warren and it would be fine with me if she runs for president although I don't think she will. But if that were to happen I would make a determination at that time about which candidate I wanted to support. And I will also support whichever Democrat including Clinton eventually gets the nomination. Will you?

[bvar22]

41. Are you a member of the top 5%?

If not, you could be working against your own financial interest.

[totodeinhere]

46. It's not about me. It's about which Democrat can win in 2016. My own

personal financial interest takes a back seat to the overall best interest of the country.

[bvar22]

48. So you believe that someone who works for the top 5%...

..is in the best interest of our country??!!

Wow..
Just wow.

[totodeinhere]

49. Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that Clinton works for

any particular group and I don't believe that. I have been a long time admirer of hers and I am not going to let those who would divide our party change that.

[Wilms]

44. I don't "hate" ANYBODY. But I do despise what many are doing.

And I see that you're not sure whom to support should Warren enter the race.

Got it.

[totodeinhere]

47. And I see that you are not ready to commit to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016

whoever he or she may be.

[Wilms]

50. A lot of people stayed home in 2010.

I wouldn't want to see the party base destroyed by the Third Way. But they sure do a lot of damage.

[DonViejo]

52. Yeah, they sure did stay home didn't they? They really punished

the President and the Dem Party with that tactic, didn't they?

[jsr]

2. Betcha many people still don't know school debt is non-dischargeable in bankruptcy.

[daleanime]

17. That needs to be changed.

[jwirr]

22. If it were changed the banksters would be more in control.I meant our control. They would have to

stop giving loans for their benefit instead of the students.

[daleanime]

25. ........

[Gidney N Cloyd]

3. Most of these for-profit "schools" grant bullshit degrees to begin with.

[snot]

4. K&R'd.

[FiveGoodMen]

5. Once again: It's not enough to be a D

[tblue]

8. No. Certainly not.

And as our tent gets bigger, accommodating all these Republicans bolting from their own extremist party, the Democratic Party will become an increasingly unwelcome place for economic progressives. We need campaign finance reform in the worst way.

[FiveGoodMen]

10. "We need campaign finance reform in the worst way."

Hear, hear!

[NobodyHere]

43. Campaign Finance Reform needs to start at the bottom

As in people who don't like corporate donations need to stop voting for the politicians who accept them.

[daleanime]

18. Amen....

[Enthusiast]

24. We have seen that illustrated quite well in the past few years.

[Swede Atlanta]

6. I personally think that "for profit" schools should be excluded from any federal programs.......

If the institution's underlying purpose is education whether that is traditional academic or more trade oriented is profit, then they should be treated as just that, businesses.

No student loans should issue for these schools nor should they receive any federal grants, etc.

Education, like healthcare, in my view should never be "for profit".

[grantcart]

13. Absolutely agree.

[daleanime]

19. I like it.

[smokey nj]

45. Indeed.

[WowSeriously]

7. Well who are you going going to vote for, a Republican?

Brought to you by the Lesser of Two crowd, where you should never let the perfect be the enemy of the good and you have to play the hand your dealt.


You get what you vote for.

[tblue]

9. Not a dime's worth of difference

in way too many cases. We need more Elizabeth Warrens and Bernie Sanderses.

[WowSeriously]

12. Exactly

[Egalitarian Thug]

14. Clowns to the left of us, jokers to the right. Here we are, stuck.

Kick & Rec, but I'm just about done. I'm going to spend the next few months looking for someone to actually support and if I don't find her, again, I don't think I'm even going to bother.

[Jackpine Radical]

26. I don't see any clowns to the left of me.

In fact, I hardly see ANYONE to the left of me--at least among professional politicians.

[Egalitarian Thug]

28. True, but the song...

I almost wrote the same thing. I have to leave the country to find people to the left.

[Jackpine Radical]

34. So here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

[FairWinds]

15. Goldman Sachs (I say "Sacks"). .

is a big investor in these higher education scams aimed at the vulnerable.
It's out and out predation.
This will (and should) make your blood boil . .
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/goldman-sachs-for-profit-college_n_997409.html

Thread drift - I called my US Senator, Sherrod Brown, and asked him to filibuster
that rotten-assed, sell-out budget deal.

[Jackpine Radical]

35. They need a corporate makeover, beginning with a new name: Sacks and

Pillages.

[Stargazer09]

16. The "degrees" are worthless

I'd even say that they less than worthless.

Most employers know that those "colleges" are no good, and I dare say that the HR people may actually look down at anyone who was stupid enough to get suckered into attending one of those schools.

[Egalitarian Thug]

29. The last company I worked for had a drawer for those resumes. It's against the law to just

throw them away. There are the rare exceptions of course, but after finding one that was almost perfect, we went through a dozen more before just giving up on them.

Apparently, after you've paid enough to these diploma mills everybody graduates with honors.

[gtar100]

21. The kind of Democrats the Democratic Party can do without.

The lesser evil is still evil.

[Enthusiast]

23. These are the kind of Democrats we should remove from the party.

Better an actual Republican than a Republican masquerading as a Democrat.

[politichew]

30. Uh, well,

I attend what is considered a private, for-profit college, but is the largest private college in the state and is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges.

If this law does not protect the for-profits that are accredited, I won't be able to support it without shooting myself in the foot.

[FairWinds]

32. Hey Mr. Politchew

The accrediting agencies have sold out. They approve just about any
fly-by-night "educational" proposal.
I'd say check into your school very thoroughly. Job placement success? Costs?
Predatory loans? High pressure sales pitches?
If any of these raise alarms, it may be best to bail before you become even
deeper in the hole.
Good luck to you !! It's just too damn bad that we can no longer count on
the dept of ed. to regulate any of this. GRRRRRRR !!!

[FairWinds]

33. Another BIG warning sign . .

are "schools" that refuse to accept credit that you have
earned elsewhere. One of my neighbors kids got scammed
for $ 80,000 with that little trick.
And will good state and non-profit schools accept transfer credit
from your school? If not, it's another alarm bell.
Sorry if this is not what you wanted to hear . .
but it's best to find out sooner rather than later.

[Triana]

37. @HouseDemocrats

Nothing stopping folks from letting them know how we feel about this.

[bvar22]

42. They don't even bother to hide it anymore because...

[font size=4]So what are ya gonna do?
Vote for a Republican?
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