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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's on! Anti-government protesters topple statue of Lenin in Kiev
Hundreds of thousands of anti-government protesters gathered in Kiev Dec. 8 to demand the resignation of the ruling government. In the proteststhe third Sunday in a row of such protestsa statue of former Communist leader Vladimir Lenin appears to have been toppled.
"The opposition is ready to sit down, talk, negotiate change in the situation to seek an exit from the current political crisis."
At issue is whether or not Ukraine will join the EU, something supported by the anti-government protesters but opposed by President Viktor Yanukovych. Protesters suspect President Yanukovych is bowing to Russian pressure not to join the EU. Opposition leaders indicated Dec. 6 that they're ready to talk to President Yanukovych about ending the standoff.
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Protesters and police:
http://cir.ca/news/ukraine-protests
As you can see, the police are basically standing down. I have no idea what would happen if this changes.
It's anyone's guess how this will turn out. Putin holds a very high card in that the Ukraine owes them billions in debt. They also depend on Russia or a lot of aid.
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)not a province in Putinstan.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)However, when it gets to that future is up in the air.
Whether anybody likes it or not, Putin is going to have a real say in this.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)A frontline state pushing a neocon agenda in the region, with the economic boost that comes from an American military presence.
That would likely deflate Poland's economic ambitions, however.
polichick
(37,152 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)and thats just Jerry Brown's moonbeams in the "liberal" state of California.
polichick
(37,152 posts)rid itself of the evil that has taken over - but I do think we'll have to fight.
reddread
(6,896 posts)but not by choosing their "choices"
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)they were met with serious violence, and passers-by and journalists got caught up in it as well.
And THEN did the mass of people come out onto the streets.
Just compare it with OWS in the US - "radicals" being agressively swept away and then...nothing.
U4ikLefty
(4,012 posts)"swept away and then...nothing"...nice!!! Enjoy your internship with FOX.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)or I was unclear. I meant "nothing" as in "instead of rising to the defence of peaceful protesters, the majority of people allowed the crackdown to happen" - unlike in the Ukraine, or in Turkey, or in...
on edit: and if you'd like to show "talking shit of Occupy" as typical for me, you'll have a real hard time, given threads like this.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)"Oh, you mean you'll just sit still while we beat you and pepper spray you? Good times."
Gman
(24,780 posts)In light of its recent problems.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)@maxseddon:
Der Spiegel reports Merkel is planning to back @Klitschko
The Klitschko brothers are leading the ant-government protests.
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)had a statue of Lenin to be pulled down at this late date.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)just saying. It would seem camping in tents in occupied squares isn't such a dead idea after all.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)"Naaa na na na-na-na-na ... "