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Looks like gas prices are taking a toll on Obama vs. Romney numbers. (Original Post) SmellyFeet Mar 2012 OP
They are taking a toll CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #1
$4.51 for Arco premium in So Cal nolabels Mar 2012 #4
Hey CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #7
Do you also think that higher food prices as a result of higher gas prices, is a good thing? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #8
It will be a good thing for local growers who don't have send crap 10,000 miles for consumption nolabels Mar 2012 #10
seem? handmade34 Mar 2012 #11
6 polls zipplewrath Mar 2012 #2
I'm showing the two that were done in the past week. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #5
Shows how ignorant the electorate is if they think a US President can control gas prices. DCBob Mar 2012 #3
Not worried at all. I actually think high prices now are good for Obama. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #6
if you are not worried about it then its hardly worth posting. DCBob Mar 2012 #9
Just because I'm not worried about it doesn't mean it's not worth discussing. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #15
If its worthy of discussing you should have included the other pollls showing Obama up.. DCBob Mar 2012 #25
Those other polls are over a week old, which makes them irrelevant in political polling. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #26
Its still just two polls and Rasmussen is suspect. DCBob Mar 2012 #33
Agree, Rasmussen sucks, but he's actually been better on Obama than others. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #34
I dont trust anything from Rasmussen that involves a Democratic candidate. DCBob Mar 2012 #36
Okay. n/t SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #38
Rasmussen says President Obama is losing libtodeath Mar 2012 #12
Agree, but Rasumssen has actually been more favorable to Obama in recent weeks. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #16
Terminal prices shot up nearly Broderick Mar 2012 #13
I hope not. But I am filling up today and getting an extra 5 gallon can full. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #14
I just went up at my station Broderick Mar 2012 #17
I am in Tampa. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #19
I hope the strategic reserve will bankrupt a bunch of these speculators L. Coyote Mar 2012 #18
Here's an even better idea that bankruptcy for dealing with speculators. tledford Mar 2012 #21
Do that with all speculation including stock speculation. Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #29
The numbers will change many times between now and November Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #20
Where did I say I was I was bothered by the poll numbers? SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #22
... Happyhippychick Mar 2012 #24
Why? SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #28
"taking a toll" has that implication Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #27
You're right. I should have been clear that the numbers don't concern me. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #30
ZOMG!!!! This is, like...HUGH!!!!! Only the 82nd post of the day about Obama TANKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happyhippychick Mar 2012 #23
Grow up. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #31
There you go, talking to yourself in the mirror again! Happyhippychick Mar 2012 #40
Higher Gas Prices are a Risk On the Road Mar 2012 #32
Absolutely agree. SmellyFeet Mar 2012 #35
Isn't Romney a proponent of non-intervention in the marketplace? aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #37
Why are you attributing it to gas prices? Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #39

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
4. $4.51 for Arco premium in So Cal
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:55 AM
Mar 2012

In ways, I think it's kind of a good thing. Battery assisted bicycles and mopeds are getting second looks. Having bring along three or four thousand pounds or better of metal just to transport a couple hundred pounds of flesh seems kind wasteful or inefficient.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
7. Hey
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
Mar 2012

Get a bike. I am using my old beach cruiser for local trips and just saving my Jeep for the basics. But 4.51! Whoah...that would be 90 bucks for a fill. This sucks.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
10. It will be a good thing for local growers who don't have send crap 10,000 miles for consumption
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:16 AM
Mar 2012

Really, the economic model we are living in seems foolish in many ways

handmade34

(22,757 posts)
11. seem?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:19 AM
Mar 2012

'bout as foolish and unnatural as it gets!! we have backed ourselves into a corner and it is going to be darn difficult to get us out

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. 6 polls
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:47 AM
Mar 2012

You highlight the two that show Obama behind.

I don't suspect that we can ever expect Obama to "pull way" for good until the fall.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
5. I'm showing the two that were done in the past week.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:04 AM
Mar 2012

All of the others are out of date and don't reflect the current sentiment of voters.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
3. Shows how ignorant the electorate is if they think a US President can control gas prices.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 08:53 AM
Mar 2012

Dont worry these numbers will change as the campaign heats. Romney is a pathetic candidate and tremendous gaffe machine.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
6. Not worried at all. I actually think high prices now are good for Obama.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:05 AM
Mar 2012

Better than high 6-8 months from now.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
15. Just because I'm not worried about it doesn't mean it's not worth discussing.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:33 AM
Mar 2012

This is a political discussion board, right?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
25. If its worthy of discussing you should have included the other pollls showing Obama up..
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:49 AM
Mar 2012

otherwise its nonsense to cherry pick polls and try to makes claims one way or the other.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
26. Those other polls are over a week old, which makes them irrelevant in political polling.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:01 AM
Mar 2012

Therefore, not cherry picking. Obama is down in the two polls that ended just two days ago. That's why I'm only showing them.

I included the link for anyone to see all of the polls, so I wasn't trying to hide anything.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
33. Its still just two polls and Rasmussen is suspect.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:23 AM
Mar 2012

They often use questionable polling techniques to drive Obama's and Democrat's numbers down. That topic is more worthy of discussion.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
34. Agree, Rasmussen sucks, but he's actually been better on Obama than others.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:38 AM
Mar 2012

And, as much as people want to not believe polls, they have been incredibly accurate for over 10 years now. Even if it is only two.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
36. I dont trust anything from Rasmussen that involves a Democratic candidate.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:51 AM
Mar 2012

He's biased and manipulates data.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
16. Agree, but Rasumssen has actually been more favorable to Obama in recent weeks.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:35 AM
Mar 2012

His numbers have actually been worse for Romney when compared to other companies.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
13. Terminal prices shot up nearly
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:20 AM
Mar 2012

Twenty five cents this week. Expect prices to jump another 15-20 cents in the next few days.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
14. I hope not. But I am filling up today and getting an extra 5 gallon can full.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:33 AM
Mar 2012

I am going to try and make the tank last a month. Maybe by then the price will be down. I can not afford this. I also got 2 floor fans so I can cut the A/C off this Summer. They say a fan is cheaper. I am going to try and get by power bill under 50 bucks.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
17. I just went up at my station
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:45 AM
Mar 2012

Went from 3.64 to 3.79. I pay terminal pricing, not in futures or bulk advanced buys. I am not set up for average pricing so I fluctuate with incoming loads. Typically I go down faster than chains but they can be 2-7 days behind me on price increases. Hate this steady climb because I seem to be one of the stations in the vicinity that is usually higher. Being branded doesn't help either. Nevertheless, pricing continues to go up. At 3.719 incoming there is little profit if any when credit cards, 60 percent, is factored in. Will likely have another load on Tuesday and I don't anticipate it going down. Likely continues to climb and prices shoot up again on the signs. Hate seeing that 4 dollar plus for super and diesel. Buy now. Each part of the country is a bit different but here in Virginia it's rocketing up.

 

CAPHAVOC

(1,138 posts)
19. I am in Tampa.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:56 AM
Mar 2012

Racetrack has the best price here. It is as much as 5 cents better. Lucky for me it is on the way to class but it is 45 mile round trip. I am filling this afternoon. Then I am going to Streeetchh! the tank. I hope it goes down next month. I do not need the high test. Just regular.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
18. I hope the strategic reserve will bankrupt a bunch of these speculators
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 09:54 AM
Mar 2012

who are manipulating the futures market for political purposes

tledford

(917 posts)
21. Here's an even better idea that bankruptcy for dealing with speculators.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:05 AM
Mar 2012

1) Make it illegal to speculate.
2) Arrest, charge, prosecute, convict and imprison.
3) Federal government seizes all assets of those convicted.

Of course, since the speculators are among those who control our government, this is unlikely to happen.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
29. Do that with all speculation including stock speculation.
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:04 AM
Mar 2012

End the casino. Let companies raise capital through partners.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
20. The numbers will change many times between now and November
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:00 AM
Mar 2012

Getting hung up on every swing will do little other than raise your blood pressure.

Once Rmoney wins the nomination he will get a bump and, most probably, be ahead of Pres. Obama in the polls for a little while. Don't get hunt up on it.

None of the polls really matter until the debates start. Right now they are all but meaningless.
 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
22. Where did I say I was I was bothered by the poll numbers?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:26 AM
Mar 2012

My point was to show that gas prices are affecting the polls, not that the numbers mean anything for the election or that I'm bothered by them.

I actually like the numbers. I think it will be better for Obama in the long run.

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
24. ...
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 10:32 AM
Mar 2012
I actually like the numbers. I think it will be better for Obama in the long run.


I'm shocked to hear this.

 

SmellyFeet

(162 posts)
28. Why?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:03 AM
Mar 2012

Gas prices will most likely go down before November, which should give President Obama a boost. You disagree?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
27. "taking a toll" has that implication
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

I would hope that anything "taking a toll" on our President would be of concern to his supporters.

If I misrepresented your position, I apologize.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
32. Higher Gas Prices are a Risk
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:07 AM
Mar 2012

but they also create an opportunity for them to drop before the election and help Obama in the actual election.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
37. Isn't Romney a proponent of non-intervention in the marketplace?
Mon Mar 12, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mar 2012

If so, then how can Republicans criticize Obama for intervening on behalf of American car companies and criticize him for not intervening on the issue of gas prices?

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