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Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:17 PM Dec 2013

The GOP nightmare, in one HuffPo comment

Just signed up at the CO exchange for a plan that will save my family $13,000 over my 2013 costs, without changing insurance companies, without any subsidy, and with improved coverage and lower deductible and max oop. Thanks to ACA I no longer have to take the one flawed plan anyone would sell me: now I have a choice of several plans, every one of which is WAY better than what I could previously get. Thanks to this law my life expectancy is significantly higher than it was last year, and I plan to spend all of the rest of it voting against every Republican I ever see on any ballot.


Whoomp! There it is...as the kids used to say.
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The GOP nightmare, in one HuffPo comment (Original Post) Proud Public Servant Dec 2013 OP
ACA is for the people. mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2013 #1
"Oh shit. It's good for America. Damn it." - Republicons (R) Berlum Dec 2013 #2
Republicans will have 'egg on face' on this one Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2013 #29
+1 sakabatou Dec 2013 #39
This should be framed like a beautiful piece of art. n/t Whisp Dec 2013 #3
Disagree. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2013 #23
Bam! Cha Dec 2013 #4
As great defenders of the "Free Market"... Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #5
Mind control Hawaiianlight Dec 2013 #13
There are two factors that make Republicans white hot with rage over "Obamacare" ... klook Dec 2013 #16
there are Holocaust deniers too BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #20
Two factors---the Obama part, and the care part. nt Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #28
Yes - nice succinct summation. (n/t) klook Dec 2013 #42
What is always a treat Cosmocat Dec 2013 #19
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #22
There are 370,000,000 people in the USA Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #36
Yes, "collective bargaining" is probably the one aspect of free-markets they'd most like gone. Hugin Dec 2013 #37
Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #44
Maybe baggers are the really closet communist? kydo Dec 2013 #27
Nah. Baggers are fascists cloaked in the American Flag. They support Corporate Rule BlueCaliDem Dec 2013 #51
Hey Boehner! Put that in your shot glass and slam it. Blue Owl Dec 2013 #6
He drinks warm wine. watoos Dec 2013 #9
So if his below minimum wage earning waitperson pisses in it, he won't even know? 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #12
heh! n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #21
Now wait a minute - doesn't he already do that? calimary Dec 2013 #33
kick pscot Dec 2013 #7
One year from now, the GOP won't be calling the ACA "Obamacare" ehrnst Dec 2013 #8
Just came from periodontist but you made me laugh. watoos Dec 2013 #10
You are so correct. Old and In the Way Dec 2013 #14
And the GOP The Wizard Dec 2013 #11
Please! Fall on your swords already! NBachers Dec 2013 #34
Yup!! This IS IT!! K&R!! hue Dec 2013 #15
How about a link to where it is on Huffpost? citizen blues Dec 2013 #17
Here you go, sort of Proud Public Servant Dec 2013 #30
Thank you! citizen blues Dec 2013 #53
Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Dec 2013 #18
Saving $13,000 over his 2013 health costs! ReRe Dec 2013 #24
Any good news like this is Kryptonite for republicans. mwb970 Dec 2013 #25
Funny they don't report these cases on right-wing radio. JEFF9K Dec 2013 #26
"...I plan to spend all of the rest of it voting against every Republican..." ffr Dec 2013 #31
$13,000 is a lot of money. That is a serious addition to the kids college funds, bluestate10 Dec 2013 #32
There it is, indeed! Major Hogwash Dec 2013 #35
Its all happening because of this guy Left Coast2020 Dec 2013 #38
That gives me a warm happy glow all over. Big Kick and Rec. Hekate Dec 2013 #40
K and R! 47of74 Dec 2013 #41
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #43
I have to tell you guys and gals, when I saw this pic on Stumble... Left Coast2020 Dec 2013 #49
k and r--my hope is that each and every one of these disgusting puke pols, their acolytes, niyad Dec 2013 #45
I'm going to email that comment to my 2 ReThug brothers who disapprove of ACA . Auntie Bush Dec 2013 #46
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2013 #47
And there will be many, many more just like this! JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #48
Yep in a nutshell indeed! jimlup Dec 2013 #50
Let's see if these kind of stories get the same kind of play in the M$M that the negative ones did. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2013 #52

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
29. Republicans will have 'egg on face' on this one
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:29 PM
Dec 2013

to have egg on one's face - to be embarrassed by something one has done. (As if one went out in public with a dirty face.)

have egg on your face (informal) - to seem stupid because of something you have done You'll be the one who has egg on your face if it goes wrong

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have+egg+on+face

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
23. Disagree.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:31 PM
Dec 2013

Some art is so beautiful that it doesn't even need a frame.

This falls into that category.

Power to the People!

Cha

(297,323 posts)
4. Bam!
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:29 PM
Dec 2013
"Thanks to ACA I no longer have to take the one flawed plan anyone would sell me: now I have a choice of several plans, every one of which is WAY better than what I could previously get. Thanks to this law my life expectancy is significantly higher than it was last year, and I plan to spend all of the rest of it voting against every Republican I ever see on any ballot."

Thanks PPS!

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
5. As great defenders of the "Free Market"...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:32 PM
Dec 2013

I find it very interesting that Republicans see a market based health insurance model as a threat. The game has always been rigged against the consumer (and there's really nothing optional about it - virtually everyone needs healthcare) because it pits each person, individually, against the HI corporations and their armies of claim deniers-delayers/lawyers. Now that the ACA gives everyone a chance to shop, costs are falling...yet for some reason, Republicans in Congress fear the free market - in this case only. Strange, that. Wonder if their campaign funding was contingent on opposing this law? They've been doing it for over 20 years. I wonder how much this has cost everyone in real money over that period of time?

Hawaiianlight

(63 posts)
13. Mind control
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:11 PM
Dec 2013

The only people who actually stand to lose are those tied to the Insurance lobby. The rest respond to the corporate blabber plus propaganda. The truth is slowly rising to the surface in a sea of deceit.

klook

(12,157 posts)
16. There are two factors that make Republicans white hot with rage over "Obamacare" ...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:46 PM
Dec 2013

1. The "Obama" part, of course.
2. It's a government program that helps people in need.

#1 is simple, as we've discussed on hundreds of DU threads since January 2009. Right-wingers think Obama is the Anti-Christ.

#2 is the other key, I think. Their orthodoxy tells them that nothing the government does can possibly be any good, except intrusions into private morality and the military. But it's more than that. I really believe a lot of them have this Randian/Libertarian view that if you're in need, it's your own fault. And any help you get should come from your church. (What? You don't have one?? Then just die.)

Many on the Right apparently take satisfaction in punishment of the "indolent" by means of the free market's Invisible Hand. When poor people suffer, when government employees lose their pensions, or when the buyers of sub-prime mortgages lose their homes, it's their proof that "the system is working." Of course, many of them don't actively relish this suffering -- more often they're just indifferent to the suffering. If forced to consider the misery, the general reaction is "What do I care? It's not me or my family."

I know you know all this... I'm just scratching my head along with you over their illogic and obliviousness. (And I'm lumping all conservatives into the same mindset, when really there are variations and nuances within the group. But I think this describes the prevailing mindset.)

Sometimes in a paranoid moment, it seems to me that this is just the end game of an elaborate right-wing conspiracy to get the Heritage Foundation's plan in place. But the way it's played out, with all the attempts to stifle "a government takeover of health care," I really think it's more that the RW spinmeisters have manipulated the popular conservative imagination into seeing the ACA as the demonic offspring of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. We hear the law described as the undoing of the Constitution, proof that Obama is a dictator, a victory for Marxism, the triumph of evil in this world, and so on.

In a weird way, I have to just stand back and marvel at the ability of the right-wing brainwashing apparatus to convince their flock that a plan based on an industry-friendly model cooked up by a conservative think tank (and implemented by a Republican governor) is somehow "socialism."

And I predict, that like moon landing-deniers, many of them will never believe the successes of the ACA are for real, no matter how much evidence is presented to them.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
20. there are Holocaust deniers too
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:35 PM
Dec 2013

And there were kamikaze pilots isolating themselves and thinking the Emperor won.

The majority do open their eyes sooner or later. DU members in general pretty much know what's going on way ahead of the rest of the herd. Which is pretty frustrating!

I agree with you too about many on the right wanting punishment of the indolent. The belief that ALL who receive assistance are sitting on lazy asses and want it that way is actually fairly widespread. I've been pretty surprised at how often I hear that sentiment, and from whom.

Cosmocat

(14,566 posts)
19. What is always a treat
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:31 PM
Dec 2013

is watching some idiot republican pol being offered the public forum to spew nonsense being asked by a member of the "liberal media" what the "republican alternative" to the ACA would be and every time, every stinking time they babble about "increasing competition" while the "liberal media" member smiles and approves ...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. Actually ...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

republicans in Congress fear the "free market" whenever it touches the non-investor/non-executive class. For example, they claim free market principle reign when worker wages are depressed ... arguing there is always some worker out there willing and able to do that job for $1.00+/hr less; but they fear that same free market principle that says there is always a CEO out there willing and able to do that job for $1,000,000 less ... European and Asian companies don't seem to have a problem finding them; with better results.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
36. There are 370,000,000 people in the USA
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:29 AM
Dec 2013

And over 7 BILLION people in the world.
It is mathematically impossible to not be able to find someone to replace every single corporate officer in the world with candidates more skilled and willing to work for a fraction of their salaries.

Hugin

(33,164 posts)
37. Yes, "collective bargaining" is probably the one aspect of free-markets they'd most like gone.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:40 AM
Dec 2013

But, then that wouldn't really be a free-market at all. I guess in the warped Republican world view the only thing that is allowed to collect and bargain is money and not labor.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
44. Exactly ...
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 08:28 AM
Dec 2013

republicans like to parrot the "individuals seeking to pursue their individual interests" line in defining the free market; but go quiet when asked to explain why the walmart vendor purchasing model or buyer's clubs, both of which use free market principles to obtain favorable pricing, is good when collective action (unionization) using the same principle to obtain favorable wages is bad.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
27. Maybe baggers are the really closet communist?
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:16 PM
Dec 2013

Obamacare seems more like Capitalism with market places to shop that have of options and baggers hate it. What do they want a one size fits all government run plan? Oh wait that's socialism, but yet I am hearing more about how a single payer would be better coming from the baggers. Talk about identity crisis.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
51. Nah. Baggers are fascists cloaked in the American Flag. They support Corporate Rule
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:02 PM
Dec 2013

over the Will of the People - even if they don't even know it.

calimary

(81,322 posts)
33. Now wait a minute - doesn't he already do that?
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:53 PM
Dec 2013

How else does one explain that weird dark-piss-colored skin of his?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. One year from now, the GOP won't be calling the ACA "Obamacare"
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:44 PM
Dec 2013

It will be "The bi-partisan Heritage Foundation health care success story"

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
10. Just came from periodontist but you made me laugh.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:54 PM
Dec 2013

..and Newt will be on Crossfire taking credit for it.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
24. Saving $13,000 over his 2013 health costs!
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:59 PM
Dec 2013

Just think what this dad can use that extra $1,083/month for. That's a stack of moola that's going to STAY in HIS pocket, in other words it won't be picked from his pocket by The Insurance Corporation anymore. That's called relief. That's called change you can believe in. I call that just plain ole social justice. And that part in his last sentence about how he's going to vote from here on out is exactly why the Republicans are quaking in their boots.

mwb970

(11,360 posts)
25. Any good news like this is Kryptonite for republicans.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 08:26 PM
Dec 2013

They are only happy when they are making others miserable. Sick puppies, every one.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
31. "...I plan to spend all of the rest of it voting against every Republican..."
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:33 PM
Dec 2013

Me too!

No More Republicans! Not one! Not ever!

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
32. $13,000 is a lot of money. That is a serious addition to the kids college funds,
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:10 PM
Dec 2013

or, a family vacation that the kids will remember for the rest of their lives. And to top it all off, health and financial security.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
35. There it is, indeed!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:22 AM
Dec 2013

Colorado will probably go really blue next year because of the ACA once the word gets out more.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
49. I have to tell you guys and gals, when I saw this pic on Stumble...
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
Dec 2013

...I said to myself, WOW! I froze for a moment because I couldn't believe it.

Friggin amazing.

niyad

(113,344 posts)
45. k and r--my hope is that each and every one of these disgusting puke pols, their acolytes,
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:22 AM
Dec 2013

sycophants, cheerleaders and kool=ade drinkers, receives exactly what they deserve.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
50. Yep in a nutshell indeed!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:57 PM
Dec 2013

This is exactly why they've been beside themselves freaking out over the ACA. They are desperately afraid that it will work.

Unfortunately they seem to have temporarily convinced most of America that they are right. But time will fix that as people start to discover that the ACA can help them and that the horror stories which have been so exaggerated are mostly false.

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