Uhm... what jobs were lost due to the ACA?

[whttevrr]

Just heard it again... we lost jobs because of the ACA...

Anyone know which jobs these people are talking about?

[madokie]

1. Hopefully it'll be republicon congress critters

come election time

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. I think ...

the gop is finally getting ahead of the curve ... they are predicting the loss of their own jobs.

[madokie]

3. LOL

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Can I add a couple state assembly members? Please, pretty please?

[whttevrr]

8. Ohhh...

He was predicting... lol!

[madokie]

9. We're hoping :-)

[Drale]

4. I've got a list of jobs that have been or will be lost in the near future because of the ACA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politicians_affiliated_with_the_Tea_Party_movement

[Proud Liberal Dem]

6. It must be nice

to be able to say that ACA is doing all of these horrible things and not actually be forced to produce any evidence/support for these assertions.

[11 Bravo]

7. Well, Scott Brown is currently looking for work.

[whttevrr]

10. Oh wait... Does Romney count?

He did not really lose a job, but he did lose out on a job. Technically he was a loser. He lost because of the ACA, right?

[Orsino]

11. Ann Romney's.

It was her turn, damn it.

[whttevrr]

15. Yeah... those basturds!

They stole her job!

[valerief]

12. Undertakers. nt

[Xithras]

13. There have been some, but not many

I know that the excise tax levied on medical devices has hit medical manufacturing, and that one company laid off a hundred workers in Massachusetts because of it. They weren't the only ones. The excise tax on medical devices (prosthetics, pacemakers, etc.) was apparently written under the assumption that people wouldn't stop buying medical equipment just because the prices went up, and the assumption was incorrect. Still, the layoffs represent a tiny percentage of that industry.

When Republicans talk about "lost jobs" they tend to be referring to the more theoretical assumption that employers will hire fewer employees when their expenses rise (as they have under the ACA). This is primarily based on a report from the nonpartisan CBO that estimated that the ACA will eliminate about 100,000 low wage jobs nationwide, primarily minimum wage jobs in high turnover fields where the cost of extending healthcare to employees undermines the financial justification for creating those jobs in the first place. Even then, 100,000 jobs in a nation of 30 million people is a fairly small projected loss...and it IS just a projected loss at this point.

[Sgent]

16. While true

the implementation of competitive bidding (which was implemented in the last 2 years but was part of the Bush expansion of Medicare) is a much bigger issue.

In many markets the reimbursement for medical devices dropped by over 80%, in some cases I've seen devices go from $190 to $10. This also means the reimbursement for Medicaid drops (because Medicaid by law cannot pay more than Medicare), and most private insurers followed along.

In addition, the competitive bidding rules only allowed 1-2 suppliers of a given device in a given market, which significantly cut down on overhead and allowed for more competitive bidding, but it did effect the number employed by medical equipment suppliers.

[Capt. Obvious]

14. Lots of jobs

People were going to start small businesses but now with the ACA they'd be forced offer insurance to their new hires.

As such, they haven't started their small businesses and all of those jobs were lost.

Thanks Obama.

[whttevrr]

17. Ohhh...

Huh... I wonder how many small businesses start off with 50 employees or more...

[LanternWaste]

18. Free Market Death Panels?

Free Market Death Panels?

[Fumesucker]

19. The medical insurance industry of course

Oh wait...

[SheilaT]

20. I work in a hospital.

Our census, meaning patients who have been admitted, has been very down for at least two months now. Down much more than might be usual for this time of year. Employees have been laid off, and those still working are being required to "flex", meaning take extra time off.

We have no idea why this low census thing is happening, but there's a suspicion that at least part of the reason is that those who are now going to have insurance coverage, or better coverage then they've had so far, are putting off seeing doctors and so on.

We'll find out after January 1, I suppose.

[SoCalDem]

21. People who still have assets left that could be taken, are

using home remedies & praying they stay alive until January..

[Xyzse]

22. Not yet... Although I thought it was more of a short term job opportunity

Many that are looking for health insurance tend to go to the middle men who would do the navigation and options for them.

These people get paid by their marketing companies, who in turn gets paid by insurance companies for signing people up for health insurance.

So no, it is more of a job opportunity for the moment. However, I don't see that as sustainable after a few years.