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(297,490 posts)worship is "despicable me"memememememememe!
thanks babylonsistah
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Perfect as always.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)flvegan
(64,411 posts)Selfish...mirror Jesus. Wow. Okay.
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)They claim they support the right thing, and do the opposite.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)I think they use Jesus to cover for their despicable behavior. He died for their sins, right?
So they can do whatever they want, however they want, to whomever they want; and they'll still get to go to Heaven.
They make me sick.
TiberiusB
(490 posts)'Cause it seems like you think he said the Right is selfish just like Jesus.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)means the reverse.
TiberiusB
(490 posts)In psychology, "mirroring" is "copying", which is what Maher obviously meant.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Nobody likes to be told the truth about themselves, good point.
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)SomeGuyInEagan
(1,515 posts)Much, much, much moreso for the upper 0.5 to 0.1%, where the real wealth has gone the past 30 years.
Not only to they contribute nothing of value, they substantially suck resources from everyone else.
And they are able to use religion (and hate and fear and "patriotism" to sway their minions to support them in this.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)I just get really sick of the apologists for unbridled greed and selfishness. But I apologize for mistaking you for one of them.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)He's selfish
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)What bill maher describes is how he acts.
I'm not in a position to cast judgment on those in the long shadow of anonymity.
BUT,
I'll go one futher and say he believes in trickle down humanitarianism. He gave 1,000,000 dollars to the president's re-elect campaign. And did so quite ostentatiously. Why? Well, he believed Obama was the best man to advocate for the poor. (No argument with that). So he believed he would give this large sum to the top of the advocacy pyramid and that would put in place the mechanism (Obama) to do for those who are in need.
Fine. That's a good way to pat yourself on the back; be the cool guy at the party and still not bother yourself with the real work. You know, like getting down on your knees and washing some feet.
Quite predictably when Obama and governor brown raised the tax rates on the wealthy he wasted no time threatning the party that 'they will lose me.'
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)about a stopped clock...
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)i don't know. Maybe he's just doing what comedians do; throw it and watch what sticks.
moxybug
(35 posts)haters. Awesome as always Bill
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Merry Billmas.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)Moreover: the openly selfish generally do far less harm. The person who refuses to help others out of open selfishness is purely negative: they are of no use themselves, but they do not prevent others from helping, nor do they automatically denigrate and dehumanize those in need of help. The person who uses harsh ideology to justify their refusal to help others is thereby helping to create a culture where others don't help either; where one is expected to feel more guilty for generosity and kindness than for selfishness and unkindness; and where poor people and others in need of help are actively stomped on.
CorrectOfCenter
(101 posts)If they had a 0% tax rate, they'd surely donate all kinds of moola to all sorts of good causes.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... Bill, bad guys trying to pretend they are the good guys.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Thanks so much.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)net worth $23 million http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/richest-comedians/bill-maher-net-worth/
Does he give 90% of his income to the needy? Or even 10%?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)or not?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)is a bad thing to do. Bill has a TV show and he tours heavily, that is he works hard and gets paid tons for it, not something I take issue with at all. I do take exception with those who use their 'good works' as image polishing devices.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)That's not what BTO said.
I am not sure where the Bible says to not talk (boasting, yes, but talking?) about good works, but I do know that is says "judge not, lest ye be judged".
As in, Maher judges others to be selfish. Well, what about his own selfishness? Seems like if he gave away $20 million that he could help a LOT of poor people and STILL have $3 million left over. Not to mention whatever income is coming to him.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)1 "Take care! Don't do your good deeds publicly, to be admired, because then you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. 2 When you give a gift to someone in need, don't shout about it as the hypocrites do -- blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I assure you, they have received all the reward they will ever get. 3 But when you give to someone, don't tell your left hand what your right hand is doing. 4 Give your gifts in secret, and your Father, who knows all secrets, will reward you.
paleotn
(17,938 posts)...though I'm agnostic, my wife is a Quaker. The Quaker's really take those verses to heart. Verses the Southern Baptists of my youth.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)when people who are Christians do not know their Bibles, or do not live by the words of Jesus? But it takes an atheist to point out what Jesus said.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)It's not like that is the ONLY or the KEY teaching of Jesus.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)This is about you saying that the Bible did not say anything about not talking about your good deeds. I just showed that it did have something to say on that issue. Just graciously say that you did not know that verse, or you forgot about that. It will come across better than being so defensive now.
I didn't realize that some of the teachings of Jesus were more important than others. And actually, these verses are key components of his teachings.....he often spoke of humility.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and he gave it to get Obama RE-elected.
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)If you'd care to even look.
treestar
(82,383 posts)for the reasons the right wingers do. He was talking to them. And he pays his taxes.
The people he's addressing don't want to pay taxes if they think any of it will go to the needy.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)this is a guy who makes over $400,000 a year telling people who make less than $60,000 a year that they are selfish because they don't want to help people that they perceive to be freeloaders.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How do we find someone who makes little enough to tell them that? But we have a progressive tax rate, so he pays more, thus he can lecture them they can pay their share.
And he's not complaining about his taxes.
paleotn
(17,938 posts)...their religion implores them to heal the sick, feed the hungry, house the homeless, noble causes all. As recorded in the gospels, Jesus spent most of his time on those very issues and zero time on same sex marriage and laissez faire capitalism. By their actions, right wing, fundigelicals don't see it that way. They don't want their tax dollars doing the very things Jesus told them to do. Unfortunately, all private charity combined in this country does not come even close to filling the need. So to keep people out of abject, Dickensian poverty, the government HAS to step in. What else can we conclude other than these people don't have a problem with people starving in the streets?
As Gandhi supposedly said...."Oh, I don't reject Christ. I love Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike Christ." That hasn't changed much.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)and before after he judges them for "not helping the poor" then how is it not fair to judge HIM on how much he helps the poor?
malthaussen
(17,215 posts)It's not about money, it's about the power to sneer at other people.
-- Mal
treestar
(82,383 posts)That's why they don't like it when they find out poor people have cell phones, for instance. Deprives them of a status symbol. That's really annoying!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)a few nerves here.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)...while the rich need maximum dollars or they won't work.
dchill
(38,516 posts)And so exactly wrong.
JustAnotherGen
(31,849 posts)LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,725 posts)They would be the first ones claiming they are "dependent" on those tax breaks to survive.
hue
(4,949 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)So some of them have admitted it.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I have some relatives that I really NEED to send this to. Problem is that they simply won't "get it!"
As time has gone by I've realized that no matter what or how you point out the obvious, they come back with some stupid comment. Several years ago I thought this country might "wake up" and see how very destructive many right wingnuts have ruined the true meaning of Christianity! But, sad to say I realize how very wrong I was.
Maybe I shouldn't say this but they have done nothing but turned me more against religion! Raised as a very strict Catholic, I left it so long ago. Searched other religions, but never quite found "it." I don't apologize for my atheist leanings, it's just that I've had my fill of so much crap that has been spewed by so called RELIGIOUS PEOPLE!
As a Boomer, we used to use the phrase... Jesus Was A Liberal!!
Well, it sure ain't looking that way anymore! Sorry to offend those of you who still believe & worship, too many religious people use their crosses for the wrong reasons! Kind of like, I'm so religious so YOU simply can't understand because you're not!
Just not worth my breath to argue with them... they DON'T act like what I think a God or Jesus would really be!