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Robert Reich, "One of the most encouraging things I'm seeing isn't happening in Washington. (Original Post) Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP
Union membership is dropping like a stone. Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #1
We should inform the tea party, aka Koch heads . . . Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #2
In the meantime, cancel NAFTA Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #5
And turn back TPP/TPIP Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #10
Yep! We should have elected THIS guy instead: bvar22 Nov 2013 #12
Wow, no one even saw this...??? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Nov 2013 #17
And when taxes were much higher on the wealthy and corporations. pangaia Nov 2013 #26
Maybe new unions will come out of the movements he's talking about el_bryanto Nov 2013 #3
I hope so. IMO, Unions have failed to keep apace with the rightwing onslaught. And they are too KittyWampus Nov 2013 #6
Fake progressives huh ? Myrina Nov 2013 #4
Yeah, that does bother me a bit... Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #7
and he was the only one to vote no on the initial Iraq vote. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #11
Yep. No good Democrat should EVER go into the Lion's Den... bvar22 Nov 2013 #13
... Enthusiast Nov 2013 #22
Actually Union membership is on the rise. INdemo Nov 2013 #15
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2013 #8
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #9
And I believe Occupy Wall Street had a lot to do with this. cui bono Nov 2013 #14
I went to the biggest Black Friday Wal-Mart strike/protest in the country last year pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #20
I really think OWS spurred a lot of this by getting income disparity out into the dialogue. cui bono Nov 2013 #21
OWS: perhaps the only folks with good intentions left Shemp Howard Nov 2013 #23
K&R ReRe Nov 2013 #16
Sorry, wrong place pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #19
k&r n/t RainDog Nov 2013 #18
K&R nt TBF Nov 2013 #24
K&R As retired union members, we are hopefully watching the rebirth mountain grammy Nov 2013 #25

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
1. Union membership is dropping like a stone.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:37 PM
Nov 2013

The unions did so much to help build America's middle class. But now the manufacturing jobs are overseas, union membership is declining, and the middle class is disappearing.

And no politician seems to care about that. Its a shame that Robert Reich wasn't Labor Secretary for four years. He would have been in a position to do something. He could have made angry speeches, and resigned in protest if necessary.

Oh, wait a minute. Robert Reich was Labor Secretary for four years. The job-killing NAFTA bill was signed when he was in office.

We don't need sideline slogans from fake progressives. We need real action from real progressives.


Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
2. We should inform the tea party, aka Koch heads . . .
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:55 PM
Nov 2013

. . . America's golden age was when the most productive Americans had an easier time joining labor unions.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
5. In the meantime, cancel NAFTA
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:21 PM
Nov 2013

I'm all for carefully targeted protective tariffs to get industry back to America. But I'd be happy enough (for now) if Obama would just announce that the US was backing out of NAFTA. Of couse that will never happen.

Now I'm off-topic Jack Rabbit, but Woody Guthrie was the man. I never heard a song of his that I didn't like. Awhile back, our union was involved in a dispute with management. At one meeting someone began to play Anne Feeney's "Union Maid", a song that I had never heard before.

"I'll bet that's one of Woody's," I said to myself. And I was right.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
10. And turn back TPP/TPIP
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:43 PM
Nov 2013

That's an absolute must.

Corollary: Should either of both be approved by the best government money can buy, the proper response is civil disobedience, by which is meant total civil disobedience.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
12. Yep! We should have elected THIS guy instead:
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:49 PM
Nov 2013


Whatever happened to that guy?
He would have made a good president.

If we had elected him, the Unions and "Ordinary Working People" would have been involved in the negotiation of the TPP and the TTIP, and not just lobbyists and Corporate Owners.
 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
17. Wow, no one even saw this...???
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 02:30 AM
Nov 2013

I know Obama, the media, the multi-national corporatists want TPP talks to be secret and the treaty fast tracked and all, but DU whiffed on it?

OBAMACARE!!!!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. Maybe new unions will come out of the movements he's talking about
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

more powerful unions to protect service jobs - while i agree that economically those sorts of jobs aren't the best, they do need to be done, and the workers who do them should receive decent salaries and benefits.

Bryant

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. I hope so. IMO, Unions have failed to keep apace with the rightwing onslaught. And they are too
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:22 PM
Nov 2013

fragmented. Too willing to go with the flow as long as their particular membership benefits from policy x, y or z/

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
4. Fake progressives huh ?
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:20 PM
Nov 2013

And you have a Dennis Kucinich - darling commentator on Faux - as your avatar.

Welcome to DU.

Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
7. Yeah, that does bother me a bit...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:28 PM
Nov 2013

All I can do is hope that Kucinich gets his message across on Fox. It's sort of like a voice in the wilderness, but you never know.

And please remember that while so many people complained about Bush II, Kucinich actually tried to do something about it. On June 10, 2008 he introduced articles of impeachment against Bush. That's perhaps the main reason I chose the Kucinich sign as my avatar.

The articles went nowhere of course, but at least it's on the record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
13. Yep. No good Democrat should EVER go into the Lion's Den...
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013

...because preaching to the choir is so much more effective.






INdemo

(6,994 posts)
15. Actually Union membership is on the rise.
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:00 PM
Nov 2013

The problem is todays potential young members are being brainwashed by Tea Party slogans and Fox News and the modern John Birch Society(The Tea baggers) with the likes of Ted Cruz and Rand Paul and the list goes on......Aside from all these negatives there are signs of renewed interest. I see this first hand ..I have been a union member for over Forty years.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
20. I went to the biggest Black Friday Wal-Mart strike/protest in the country last year
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:01 AM
Nov 2013

It was at the Paramount CA store, with more than 1200 protesters. In addition to WM workers and former workers, supporters included labor union members, college students, churches, etc. And a LOT of the protesters were Occupiers from Occupy L.A. and other SoCal Occupy groups.

It's not well-known that Occupiers are involved in a lot of "affiliated organization" actions. Probably half of the Occupy protests I've gone to were not officially Occupy events. The official sponsors were labor groups or immigrant rights groups or others. But Occupy groups publicized them on their websites and put them on their calendars as affiliated group actions and encouraged support and participation by Occupiers.

P.S.--I love your sigline.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
21. I really think OWS spurred a lot of this by getting income disparity out into the dialogue.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:13 AM
Nov 2013

It made the media talk about it and made people take notice of it.

p.s. Thanks!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
16. K&R
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 11:49 PM
Nov 2013

Congress should be taking care of minimum wage for We the People. Looks to me like what we have here is a case of old-fashioned taxation without representation. Their organizing from hither to yon IS an encouraging sign in this down-and-out-economy. I am old enough to remember when employers gave their employees cost-of-living raises or merit raises each year. I think Nixon nixed that around 1973. And since then, the only raise they got was when Congress forced employers to pay a minimum wage. Yip, and then there's Congress, who represents the employers and not We the People anymore. It's a big maddening circle, this country. Nothing but a rat race. And we're getting nowhere fast. Caught in a trap. I hope those fast-food workers and Walmart employees keep rallying and organizing. Remember what Nelson Mandela said: "It always seems impossible, until it is done."

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
25. K&R As retired union members, we are hopefully watching the rebirth
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:37 AM
Nov 2013

of the labor movement in America. It was done before, but took plenty of blood, guts and tears.
I think Americans have been beaten down enough now to fight back.. I sure hope so.

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