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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:11 PM Nov 2013

Kanye West Compares His Fashion Design Aspirations to "12 Years a Slave"

Kanye West went on a podcast with his buddy Bret Easton Ellis, and the two had an hour-long conversation about film, creativity, content, and the user experience in the modern age. Needless to say, it was pretty safe to assume that Kanye was going to go on one of his celebrated stream-of-thought monologues in which he connected the dots between various aspects of pop culture, design, history, fashion, and music. This one did not disappoint.

On having his creative freedom taken away:
"I felt like the main character [in Twelve Years a Slave]. And what I'm dealing with even as a mega-popular rich celebrity, you know, 'Fuck you, who do you think you are to complain about anything?' situation that I'm in. In the past when I've dealt with attempting to create in other fields, or attempting to create in clothing. I've kind of been on this campaign that started with, ironically, my song, 'New Slaves.' Where I was sitting in Paris and dealing with all of these companies that I had promoted, and I saw my friends promote it. And the reason, literally, why they would sell on Barneys' floors is because me and Jay Z and everyone wore it. It'd be something that maybe I kind of discovered four years before then me and Don C started putting it on-trend.

Then you start doing more research and say, 'Hey, I want to be a part of the creative conversation and be able to make money off of that also.' They stop you right there and say, 'You can't be a part of that conversation,' or they'll give you a one-off. At Louis Vuitton I did one shoe. At Nike I did two shoes but they spread them apart over four years and they had the most impact possible. I kind of saw that side of what it was, as a creative, to be free, the parallel to the main character in Twelve Years a Slave. When it was taken away from me, it felt like what it felt like as a creative to be enslaved."

On Zappos' "shit" product:
"I got into this giant argument with the head of Zappos, that he's trying to tell me what I needed to focus on. Meanwhile he sells all this shit product to everybody, and his whole thing is based off of selling shit product." On the polarity of luxury versus mass-production: "Particularly in clothing, and I want to do this parallel, it's super luxury box, high up, this dream of what you could have, some Céline bag or Hermès jacket or something in this box of luxury, like they're engineered to a Ferrari level, which they're not. Or it's the knock-off version from Zara and H&M. There's no medium ground of quality like what Apple brought, or what Nike and adidas bring."

http://www.complex.com/style/2013/11/kanye-west-fashion-design-aspirations-12-years-a-slave

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Kanye West Compares His Fashion Design Aspirations to "12 Years a Slave" (Original Post) big_dog Nov 2013 OP
Here's what I want to know about Kanye West... polichick Nov 2013 #1
I wonder if he's really going to get married live on national TV big_dog Nov 2013 #3
I'll bet the wedding never happens. Kim is a ditz but she can't be crazy enough to... polichick Nov 2013 #5
The only REAL question with Kanye West in it is... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #14
His stuff is godawful even with autotune - imo his only talent is... polichick Nov 2013 #16
Which projects are you referring to? nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2013 #18
Well... How about we go back as far as "808s & Heartbreak" (2008), and work forward from there? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #26
You mentioned "the projects". Would you mind pointing out to me which projects Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2013 #28
Kanye West isn't famous because of autotune. name not needed Nov 2013 #25
Seems you're implying that dislike for West's music is somehow bigoted. Well bullshit on that. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #27
Kanye 2016 Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #2
Please can he and his trashy gold-digging publicity-ho gf GO AWAY??? Myrina Nov 2013 #4
E will prboably pay for a Paris wedding big_dog Nov 2013 #6
Sadly enough, probably true. Assuming his head will fit in the room. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #9
Well you certainly aren't going to get his head and her posterior in the room simultaneously Fumesucker Nov 2013 #21
Let's be fair - Kanye is a "trashy gold-digging publicity-ho" too. polichick Nov 2013 #8
In fact, he's pretty darned good at it. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #10
Kanye West just says stupid shit to stay giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #7
I never saw anyone more full of himself; it's like listening to Trump. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #11
Kanye = Tom Haverford nt MisterP Nov 2013 #12
Vulgar, as usual. /nt Marr Nov 2013 #13
Have any of you heard his song Bound 2? OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #15
I've heard it. REALLY bad - nonmusic. polichick Nov 2013 #19
Silly me OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #29
Kanye and Brett, what a couple of over hyped voids. No there there. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #17
i still don't get this arely staircase Nov 2013 #20
PT Barnum wins again seveneyes Nov 2013 #22
Kanye.Please.Shut.Up. Iggo Nov 2013 #23
Get him a shark and a motorcycle MFrohike Nov 2013 #24

polichick

(37,152 posts)
1. Here's what I want to know about Kanye West...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:14 PM
Nov 2013

Did he finally get rid of that ludicrous gold and diamond grill in his mouth?

polichick

(37,152 posts)
5. I'll bet the wedding never happens. Kim is a ditz but she can't be crazy enough to...
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:23 PM
Nov 2013

move from her controlling Mom's world and into the even-more controlling world of Kanye, the narcissist.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
14. The only REAL question with Kanye West in it is...
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 02:54 AM
Nov 2013

Would Kanye West's name had been heard by ANYONE other than those people who lived on either side of him in the projects had it not been for something called "autotune"?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
26. Well... How about we go back as far as "808s & Heartbreak" (2008), and work forward from there?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 06:30 PM
Nov 2013

Has he released an album since then that didn't include autotune? If he has, would you mind pointing it out for me?

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
28. You mentioned "the projects". Would you mind pointing out to me which projects
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013

he lived in? Maybe actually read the post next time.

name not needed

(11,660 posts)
25. Kanye West isn't famous because of autotune.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 05:34 PM
Nov 2013

Then again, DU as a whole has never regarded hip-hop as anything more than scary negro chants.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
27. Seems you're implying that dislike for West's music is somehow bigoted. Well bullshit on that.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013

Some of us LOVE scary negro music. Here are just a few men whose brow sweat is more talented than your Mr. West.


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giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
7. Kanye West just says stupid shit to stay
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

relevant. Damn the man has millions upon millions of $$$ for cheeses sake nobody gives a damn that you get mad a Taylor Swift or your baby's mama is a reality tv gold digger.

OwnedByCats

(805 posts)
15. Have any of you heard his song Bound 2?
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 03:22 AM
Nov 2013

Supposedly it's about Kim, but shows just how much he seems to disrespect women. It's fucking awful to listen to. It doesn't even have a good melody or anything. She also purrs "uh huh honey" through the track, makes me puke in my mouth a little.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Kanye and Brett, what a couple of over hyped voids. No there there.
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:06 AM
Nov 2013

I just wonder what room they meet in, must be huge to contain both of those swollen heads, I'm thinking an abandon LTA hanger.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
22. PT Barnum wins again
Sat Nov 23, 2013, 04:08 PM
Nov 2013

I don't even know what to say about this rich guy, except his millions could be put to good use helping people that really need it.

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