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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOk... time for a dumb question.
What is this "I will never apologize for being American" phrase.
I know in a literal sense what it means. I just don't get the hidden message in it... or maybe I think I know... etc, etc... I do feel it will be something childish. I hope you understand where this is going. Who is asking for apologies?
deutsey
(20,166 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)they always leave out "May she always be in the right"
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Since he has apologized a few times, they think he bows to everyone. They are trying to make him look weak.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)I mean fuck all if a sitting president has to go around the world to apologize for what a fucking disaster his predecessor left in his wake.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)in the 08 primarys for instance Michelle made the coment that this was the first time she had been this proud of the U.S... (funny me as an old white guy felt the same way) the right wingers labled her as a traitor.. the old "love it or leave it " meme from the 60's
DearAbby
(12,461 posts)In other words an Appeaser.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)I bet he could tell a different tale....oh wait!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)but would never describe them as "innocent".
patrice
(47,992 posts)Lost-in-FL
(7,093 posts)What is so bad about apologizing? To know when to apologize is to show strength of character.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)in many other cultures it is interpreted as weakness..
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)bull shit,the idea that we are better then everyone else.
Maybe if you take out the fact that we slaughtered the Native Americans when we came here,held blacks as slaves,have started several imperialist wars for profiteers,allow millions to live without food and shelter and then die without medical care,keep the average person in daily stress of paying bills,allow no future that does not enrich the 1% then yeah we are pretty good.
We should have looked into our collective souls (what FDR through LBJ did) after that monster raygun destroyed the back bone of this country and apologized to the world for that mistake once and for all and let it be the shame to this country as his Nazi beliefs are to Germany today.
When I think of the fact that bastard stole the 1980 election and where we could be if only President Carter was allowed to finish what he started...
pipoman
(16,038 posts)denial or refusal to actually look at the histories of virtually every other nation on the planet with the same glasses we look at our own nation. Just for starters study up on the British empire sometime..no imperialism there...noooo
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Cling to the idea of how special the country is... It's part and parcel of the imperial credo. Sometimes the language changes, see Spain and Portugal, or the Netherlands, did I mention Rome.
Hell, read Euripides's funeral oration...the theme is right there.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)god save the queen and stuff like that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)It's part and parcel of the imperial credo.
treestar
(82,383 posts)IOW, they know that America has done some bad things. Otherwise, they wouldn't preface it that way.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)There are currently two visions for America.
"I will never apologize for being American" actually means "I will never apologize for my vision of America".
The "vision part" is initially left out because there isn't room for any other vision.
In other words, the phrase in question is "dog whistle" for "My way or the highway."
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Goes hand in hand with ...
"Love it or leave it"
and
You are either with us or against us.