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Ask Amy: Her response is spot on.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Nov 2013 OP
It certainly is! FiveGoodMen Nov 2013 #1
I would say that Betrayed had to HappyMe Nov 2013 #2
There's also a lot of disfunction in that family, I suspect. SheilaT Nov 2013 #3
The article never mentioned whether the author was the mother or father. nt okaawhatever Nov 2013 #25
Ahhh, you are right. SheilaT Nov 2013 #29
Agreed. The reason I commented was because I read the part about the birthday and went back to see okaawhatever Nov 2013 #30
Most excellent response. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #4
K&R! Aristus Nov 2013 #5
Amy should have added "and dump the church, it's obviously filled with bigots". Scuba Nov 2013 #6
. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #7
heh... progressoid Nov 2013 #23
There was one a few weeks back Drale Nov 2013 #8
Amy rocks! Wait Wut Nov 2013 #10
I saw that one, except it was Dear Abby Ratty Nov 2013 #20
My wife showed me that sharp_stick Nov 2013 #9
Same here, I kinda felt that way too. Rex Nov 2013 #13
Wow, what a wonderful mother! Three cheers to Amy for her response. sinkingfeeling Nov 2013 #11
As someone else pointed out above, we don't know if it was the mother or the father. cui bono Nov 2013 #26
Understood, but my first thought was - it was a mother who wrote in. calimary Nov 2013 #31
She is a real pro, I could never be that polite Rex Nov 2013 #12
what a great answer when someone claim's gays can change rurallib Nov 2013 #14
Well, Catholic priests use prayer to suppress their sexual urges and....uhhhh.... Jerry442 Nov 2013 #17
Definitely. I LOVE that part! calimary Nov 2013 #32
Be that way for a year? May be even harder to change back rurallib Nov 2013 #33
Wow... yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #15
Or his son. We don't know who wrote that. n/t cui bono Nov 2013 #27
Great answer but the original letter she responds too is so sad. KittyWampus Nov 2013 #16
Yup sure is madokie Nov 2013 #18
Cheese and Rice Egnever Nov 2013 #19
the church group sounds like 13th grade Iris Nov 2013 #24
Fundies need to face it... ReRe Nov 2013 #21
K&R for Ask Amy berni_mccoy Nov 2013 #22
My 17 yr old nephew is coming out BainsBane Nov 2013 #28
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
3. There's also a lot of disfunction in that family, I suspect.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:15 PM
Nov 2013

Forgetting her son's birthday three years in a row? How many other kids does she have? If she has like 18 others, I wouldn't be surprised she'd forget a birthday or two. But if he's an only child or there's only a couple of others, she clearly has been rejecting him for at least the past three years.

Which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with his being gay.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
29. Ahhh, you are right.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

How interesting. I assumed it was the mom writing but perhaps it was the dad. Either way, forgetting your child's birthday three years in a row at that point in the kid's life, strikes me as an indication that there is a lot of dysfunction in the family.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
30. Agreed. The reason I commented was because I read the part about the birthday and went back to see
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 02:18 PM
Nov 2013

if there was a reference to it being the mother or father. I think I had my prejudices in mind. I guess I still think it's worse for the mom to forget than the dad. Intellectually I know it's the same, but i guess a part of me still was going to assign blame based on gender. Shame on a femanazi like me.

Drale

(7,932 posts)
8. There was one a few weeks back
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:17 PM
Nov 2013

in which a guy complained that he found out his new wife had more sexual partners than just her ex-husband and that a friend told him she had lots of sex in college. He said he was uncomfortable with it and that she supposed lied to him. Amy basically told him to suck it up and get over it or end the marriage so the wife could find someone who actually loves her and cares more about her than her past. I thought that was a great one and I bet the guy get pissed off when he read to response.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
9. My wife showed me that
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
Nov 2013

I was hoping that "Feeling Betrayed" was just trolling Ask Amy.

I'm still holding out hope that it's just a prank and not some totally fucked up fundie moron.

calimary

(81,318 posts)
31. Understood, but my first thought was - it was a mother who wrote in.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:03 PM
Nov 2013

I would GUESS - and it's just a guess - that women in general are more concerned about being made fun of, or what would the neighbors think, or Dear God, what if our friends find out?!?!?!?!! Doesn't seem as though most men would get that mussed-up about it - especially to the point where they'd feel they have to write in to an advice columnist about it. Further, it's usually moms who remember the birthdays, buy the cards, write in the cards and send 'em or set them out where they can be easily spotted, get the gifts, wrap the presents, arrange the parties or activities, etc. At least in my experience, anyway. We have just the two kids and my husband usually has to double-check with me about exactly when the kids' birthdays are, or what year they were born. Just flies straight over his head sometimes (our anniversary too). And he's one of the most attentive, loving, supportive, and non-judgmental fathers there are.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. She is a real pro, I could never be that polite
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
Nov 2013

to someone that forgets their child's birthday and then uses it as an excuse to their son's sexual orientation. Beyond disgusting, but I do believe in the power of love and healing and that maybe this parent can heal some evidently long standing wounds left open by the parent. It is never to late to say you are sorry.

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
14. what a great answer when someone claim's gays can change
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

Why don't you change first and show us all how easy it is!

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
17. Well, Catholic priests use prayer to suppress their sexual urges and....uhhhh....
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

.....Oh, never mind.

calimary

(81,318 posts)
32. Definitely. I LOVE that part!
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 03:16 PM
Nov 2013

Show him how easy it is to change and be that way for about a year.



Love the "he won't listen to reason" part, too. SHEESH!!!

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
33. Be that way for a year? May be even harder to change back
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

:devil grin hear - who took the smilies?:

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
15. Wow...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:28 PM
Nov 2013

"Feeling Betrayed" sounded like her son had FLEAS...and she was asking for a way to get rid of them... I have never witnessed such ignorance before.. but Hey, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and around here being Gay or Lesbian is no big deal... I am glad I live here.. I wouldn't want to be around such people as those who hang out with "feeling Betrayed"

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
19. Cheese and Rice
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:52 PM
Nov 2013

"I am afraid they will make fun of me cause my child is gay"

But it's perfectly ok for her to demean the boy ....I swear I hate people sometimes.

And how in the hell do you forget your childs birthday..

i can't begin to imagine how despicable that church group is.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
21. Fundies need to face it...
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:11 PM
Nov 2013

... the tide has turned in this country. Their bigotry needs to be slapped down wherever and whenever it raises it's hateful closed-minded head.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
28. My 17 yr old nephew is coming out
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 08:06 AM
Nov 2013

He came out to his mother 3 years ago. Thankfully, she is nothing like the parent who wrote to Amy. No one will mistreat or insult her son and expect to remain connected in any way to the family.

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