Whoa! Sounds like Harry is ready to pull the nuclear trigger on filibusters:
@NowWithAlex:
“It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete” -@SenatorReid”
'Bout time!
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Someone should link all the disparate threads that are about to be started... 
Here's two so far:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024069293
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024069250
It's all over now. 
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But if they do, we can kiss Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, EPA and every other thing that came from or grew out of the New Deal goodbye forever.
These fascists are not playing around and they are very close to dividing this nation up into little Koch kingdoms. Complacency or bickering is not the answer to 2014.
Lose that and there are red states aplenty who can and will call for a Constitutional convention to repeal all the amendments after the 10th. All they need is 38 states with GOP majority in their state houses to overrule the millions of us who don't live in those states, while they grind their own citizenry under crony capitalism and theocracy.
The nihilism of the right and the left will meet under the guise of rooting out their special demons, welcoming a new way of doing things, or so they think. Only to be swept away by media propaganda, by, for and of the rich only. We see this more and more, they won't stop while the ultimate prize they want, the federal government is up for grabs. Which is what a Constitutional convention does.
Americans have lived under those protections such as the 14th enshrined, Birthright Citizenship, Due Process and Equal Protection Under the Law, with they entail and the laws that have been based on them. Those go all the way through women's right to vote, and have been in place for so long they believe they are a written in stone. The GOP wants the Articles of Confederation back.
Even the first ten amendments did not end slavery, period, but the Tenthers don't care. The first ten did not allow full suffrage. They did not allow women any control of their bodies. It did not allow direct elections. The GOP does not want that, they want the rich and powerful to be in charge of that process. These facts are conveniently left out in diatribes about privacy and civil liberties.
The left is in denial, thinking that cheering media mockery was sufficient. It never was, it was added into politics to divide and not find solutions. They ignored the clear voices from the right on their intentions, national personhood laws, right to work laws with no minimum wage, voting rights, regulations, ending all the social safety net.
Both extremes now revel in the destruction of the old ways they mock, as Democrats comfort themselves with the notion 'wiser heads will prevail' and walk away from their civic responsibility. They have decided they don't need to show up in local and state elections to affect regional policy and then the national policy.
One example of many, charter schools and other regressive institutions didn't come out of D.C., no matter who wants to point the finger there. D.C. is reacting to the reality on the ground in the states, being voted in by supporters of theocracy and maniacs put in state office in yearly and the midterms.
The 2010 midterm virtually destroyed this nation, and those put in office by propaganda have not slowed their agenda, as the money keeps pouring in to buy new adherents. Those who didn't vote for reasons they have now forgotten, still point fingers upward, and it changes nothing.
Reid has been rightfully afraid of changing the rules. He is not a coward, he is a realist. He has seen these maniacs up close; we only see glimpses. This is a clever form of treason in slow motion and Reid gets no help from the sleeping public who doesn't vote to replace these demagogues.
Ryan's plan is close to reality, with calls for a Constitutional convention. The GOP will rewrite the nation's legal framework according to the ALEC model. It will be full fascist rule, nowhere to turn for redress. People will be forced to deal with those who expect a bribe to be paid to do anything. For those without the money to bribe, they will get nothing and likely lose all they have.
People have been asleep at the ballot for too long, falling for the media tactics and not voting, being distracted by anything to demoralize us. We haven't seen anything yet and it is coming. If we lose in 2014, that's it for me, I won't even bother to talk about any of it anymore.
