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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:13 PM Nov 2013

House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projects

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/11/18/2962431/house-vote-protesting-drilling-projects/

BY EMILY ATKIN ON NOVEMBER 18, 2013 AT 3:05 PM

The House is likely to vote on a number of GOP bills this week related to the oil and gas industry, arguably the most sweeping of which is the Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act.

The bill, introduced by Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO), is broad legislation designed to make it much easier for oil and gas companies to obtain permission to drill on public lands. If signed into law, the legislation would automatically approve onshore drilling permits if the U.S. Department of Interior (DOI) failed to act on them in 60 days.

If an individual does not like a proposed drilling project and wanted to oppose it, he or she would have to pay a $5,000 fee to file an official protest.

In addition, Lamborn’s proposed bill would direct the DOI to begin commercial leasing for the development of oil shale, a controversial type of production that has been largely banned by the United States since President Herbert Hoover prohibited the leasing of federal lands for oil shale. Oil shale — which should not be confused with the more common “shale oil” — is a type of rock that needs to be heated to nearly 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit to produce crude oil, which then has to be refined.

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House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projects (Original Post) G_j Nov 2013 OP
I would imagine that such a bill would be a clear violation of avebury Nov 2013 #1
No, not protesting by activists KamaAina Nov 2013 #7
Petition zipplewrath Nov 2013 #9
Freedom of speech may be written or oral so I still say that such avebury Nov 2013 #11
A 5k fee for "registration" is akin to a poll tax. Veilex Nov 2013 #24
Easily. This is fascism on steroids. freshwest Nov 2013 #26
The GOP in a nutshell. Where they belong. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #33
And how many rights... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #51
And the curtain is pulled back ... Scuba Nov 2013 #2
perfect quote G_j Nov 2013 #3
K&R Cha Nov 2013 #4
The Koch brothers stand to double or treble their net worth with Keystone, and other projects. The freshwest Nov 2013 #27
True. And, this is our Cha Nov 2013 #28
What is it about Freedom the GOP hates so darn much? Bandit Nov 2013 #5
How clever, hey you..shut up unless you have 5 grand to blow. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2013 #6
K&R 2naSalit Nov 2013 #8
what may be the most disturbing about this G_j Nov 2013 #10
How about a 60% tax on profits derived from public land? airplaneman Nov 2013 #19
not for sale G_j Nov 2013 #41
Actually I'm OK with that. airplaneman Nov 2013 #45
What will the Democrats do? ReRe Nov 2013 #12
Every day there is a new one. woo me with science Nov 2013 #13
correct G_j Nov 2013 #15
Yep...it's getting as bad as the Bush Years and some days worse. KoKo Nov 2013 #55
MONEY is Speech SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2013 #14
You took the words right off my keyboard Samantha Nov 2013 #52
This is unconstitutional. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #16
The $5k fee is BS, but this part is pretty sneaky: bluesbassman Nov 2013 #17
yep, they are not as dumb as they seem G_j Nov 2013 #20
Gosh, I hope to hell this will not pass. n/t truedelphi Nov 2013 #48
Its a good thing they could get this in (sarcasm) ashling Nov 2013 #18
Torches and pitchforks are cheaper. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #21
Where did I leave mine, I wonder???? IrishAyes Nov 2013 #34
Probably at the windmill. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #36
Yeah, I have been known to go a'tiltin', that's true. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #37
... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #38
That's probably how I'll end up. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #39
Shoulda been Dubya. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #43
It was a great picture, though; I copied it to my hard drive gallery. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #44
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2013 #22
There are those buzz words - jobs and security. Way to go, think tanks! gtar100 Nov 2013 #23
K&R....Thanks for posting red dog 1 Nov 2013 #25
How long would an evironmental impact study take? moondust Nov 2013 #29
Criminalzing dissent....... marmar Nov 2013 #30
Apparently we have no freedom to dissent. Historic NY Nov 2013 #31
The GOP would sell the Grand Canyon. Turbineguy Nov 2013 #32
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #35
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #40
Another bill that will go nowhere in the Senate Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #42
kick woo me with science Nov 2013 #46
Why is this Constitutional? lonestarnot Nov 2013 #47
How about a $5000.00... JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #49
It would seem that the GOP considers the constitution just a nice idea since this would not only supernova Nov 2013 #50
Since when did the US adopt Chinese policy? davidpdx Nov 2013 #53
Sigh...I guess this will go to the Supreme Court and they will refuse to hear it... KoKo Nov 2013 #54

avebury

(10,952 posts)
1. I would imagine that such a bill would be a clear violation of
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:16 PM
Nov 2013

the First Amendment Right to Free Speech and therefore unconstitutional.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
9. Petition
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

There is a constitutional right, which predates the Bill of Rights, for citizens to be able to petition their government. $5k to do so might actually even be a problem for this right leaning court.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
11. Freedom of speech may be written or oral so I still say that such
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:14 PM
Nov 2013

a fee would be unconstitutional and taking this country down a slippery slope we don't want to go down.

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
24. A 5k fee for "registration" is akin to a poll tax.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:32 PM
Nov 2013

If it isn't illegal, it is certainly unethical and should be made illegal.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. And the curtain is pulled back ...
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:16 PM
Nov 2013

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.” ~ Frank Zappa

G_j

(40,367 posts)
3. perfect quote
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:25 PM
Nov 2013

first they take the public land then fine you for protesting it... the curtain is gone

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
27. The Koch brothers stand to double or treble their net worth with Keystone, and other projects. The
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:41 PM
Nov 2013

GOP is being made very hansomely to dismantle the Constitution the baggers say they are protecting.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
5. What is it about Freedom the GOP hates so darn much?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:38 PM
Nov 2013

I don't think there is anything truly American the GOP supports.

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
45. Actually I'm OK with that.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:04 AM
Nov 2013

Public assets belong to us and I do not want to sell them off or let others make money at our expense. The Republican meme privatize everything scares the hell out of me.
-Airplane

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
12. What will the Democrats do?
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:28 PM
Nov 2013

If it passes the house, will it pass the Senate? I don't know if I understand it. Does it mean protesters will each, individually, be fined $5,000 for protesting?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
55. Yep...it's getting as bad as the Bush Years and some days worse.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:28 AM
Nov 2013

Get up in the Morning and another CRAZY Fascist type is raving about something. And, not just here...look at Great Britain and Canada.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
52. You took the words right off my keyboard
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013

I was headed to the bottom of the thread to post this. Great minds ....

Sam

bluesbassman

(19,373 posts)
17. The $5k fee is BS, but this part is pretty sneaky:
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 06:59 PM
Nov 2013
If signed into law, the legislation would automatically approve onshore drilling permits if the U.S. Department of Interior (DOI) failed to act on them in 60 days.


So I can see how this will work; the oil companies will bombard the DOI with a bunch of spurious applications until the system is overloaded, then sneak in the ones they actually want and figure that there won't be enough resources to get to them and voila!, permit by default!

G_j

(40,367 posts)
20. yep, they are not as dumb as they seem
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:03 PM
Nov 2013

especially when the oil companies are writing the bills for them..

ashling

(25,771 posts)
18. Its a good thing they could get this in (sarcasm)
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:01 PM
Nov 2013

but since they don't have that pesky immigration thing to worry about, and "jobs, jobs, jobs" is so last summer, and of course, no need to worry about the budget.
thank goodness the adults are in charge!

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
23. There are those buzz words - jobs and security. Way to go, think tanks!
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:30 PM
Nov 2013

How awesome you are at "shifting the public perception" of your obvious attempt at gaming the system in your favor. You are so clever!


Assholes!
(that's not sarcasm)

red dog 1

(27,804 posts)
25. K&R....Thanks for posting
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 07:38 PM
Nov 2013

Although Boner will probably have enough tea baggers to pass this in the House;
it will be DOA in the Senate.

supernova

(39,345 posts)
50. It would seem that the GOP considers the constitution just a nice idea since this would not only
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:21 PM
Nov 2013

marginalize those without $5K to shuck out to have their voice heard, but it is taxation without representation.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
54. Sigh...I guess this will go to the Supreme Court and they will refuse to hear it...
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 12:26 AM
Nov 2013

or give it the OK!

There's something in the water these crazies drink.

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