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News flash: A pairing of the isolationistic far left and far right will not stop the TPP from being (Original Post) RB TexLa Nov 2013 OP
I don't troll with you. ret5hd Nov 2013 #1
Is the agreement funny too - or just the idea that people could have an impact? polichick Nov 2013 #2
I guess he also finds it funny all those people losing their jobs laundry_queen Nov 2013 #19
what is funny about the opposition to TPP? Enrique Nov 2013 #3
My question also. OP? Skip Intro Nov 2013 #4
RB has resorted to a cryptic drive-by. Lasher Nov 2013 #12
Oh yeah that was a thing of beauty. Rex Nov 2013 #14
Corporate control of our govt is rarely funny. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #5
Is it isolationism to oppose international fascism? DJ13 Nov 2013 #6
Do tell, RB TexLa what you find to be so beneficial to people salin Nov 2013 #7
i don't be a heartless android with you. dionysus Nov 2013 #8
16K posts and still Borging. GoneOffShore Nov 2013 #9
Yep. The only way the fascists on both sides of the aisle can stop money boomersense Nov 2013 #10
Pragmatism on display. OnyxCollie Nov 2013 #11
that is OK Kali Nov 2013 #13
Here is a reality check: You're the fringe - not the American people Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #15
Newsflash: sitting back and taking it isn't an option Arcanetrance Nov 2013 #16
Makes me want to dance PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #17
trashing thread. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #18
thanks for pointing out the option BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #20
"isolationistic" for wanting to keep jobs and Sovereignty . solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #21
why is a poster who never expresses a progressive notion still here after 10 years? KG Nov 2013 #22
a high-functioning troll Enrique Nov 2013 #33
OK finally another side but also treestar Nov 2013 #23
Much as it pains me to agree with you Fumesucker Nov 2013 #24
Yep, it's the outraged middle that will stop it. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #25
It's toast. MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #26
Good fucking grief. cali Nov 2013 #27
Why are you still alive on DU? Brewinblue Nov 2013 #28
hit and run- as is the OP's habit. cali Nov 2013 #29
Cryptic nonsense. marmar Nov 2013 #30
C'mon, you can do better than that. Brickbat Nov 2013 #31
Have to disagree. The conservative base has always opposed trade and immigration. They still do. pampango Nov 2013 #32
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Oh yeah that was a thing of beauty.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:45 AM
Nov 2013

He should have left it unedited. Just reworded gibberish for the Far Left and the Far Right meeting in the Legion of Doom hallways to discuss the otherthrow of the country.




We must stop Obamacare! And world peace!

salin

(48,955 posts)
7. Do tell, RB TexLa what you find to be so beneficial to people
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:14 PM
Nov 2013

who are not executives at large corporations, that we should align with them and laugh at all of those who publicly object?

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
10. Yep. The only way the fascists on both sides of the aisle can stop money
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 11:18 PM
Nov 2013

drains without putting themselves in a bad light is to pass TPP and have it under the financial management section cut entitlements and other such things. Fast track may not pass but if it is done stealthily on slow track it will eventually win. The Neocons didn't come this far from 911 to be stopped by a little resistance. Be a whole different world. If it takes them until 2016 when they will crash the economy again, then that's what they'll do. Safe Harbors will be few and far between. And who will be TTP's greatest facillitator? Gee, I wonder.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
15. Here is a reality check: You're the fringe - not the American people
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:53 AM
Nov 2013

Like the advocates of "entitlement reform" cutting Social Security and Medicare benefits - The advocates of corporate trade agreements live in an alternative universe that seems to think that their agenda which is supported by only a tiny minority of the population is somehow or other the mainstream while the overwhelming majority of ordinary Americans are the fringe.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
16. Newsflash: sitting back and taking it isn't an option
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:59 AM
Nov 2013

What you call the far left at one point was just considered the normal base of the Democratic party.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
21. "isolationistic" for wanting to keep jobs and Sovereignty .
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 05:54 AM
Nov 2013

No one but the jobless seem to care anymore anyway.


"The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican...."

----Barack Obama




Isolationism does not mean what some want it to.
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
26. It's toast.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 10:13 AM
Nov 2013

151 Democrats and some Republicans in the House have demanded that fast track status be removed. It's odds of succeeding without secrecy and fast track are nil.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
32. Have to disagree. The conservative base has always opposed trade and immigration. They still do.
Mon Nov 18, 2013, 01:18 PM
Nov 2013

The odds are high that the House will not pass fast track authority and no trade agreement has passed without it. Neither will TPP. The House barely approved fast track for Bush in 2002 when he was popular with his base and the House was republican.

The tea party effectively controls the House. They hate Obama and do not trust him (to put it mildly). They are afraid that provisions on environmental standards and labor rights will be included - two issues that are anathema to them. By denying Obama fast track, the House can delete any liberal provisions on labor and climate change - areas where corporate and tea party republicans can agree to hate.

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