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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'd really like to know if it was the private contractors that f'd up
the ACA website.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)it's them that effed up. Although I think Kathleen Sibelius should have been more hands on.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)But I agree, she should have been curious enough to sample it..
Cleita
(75,480 posts)of responsibility not being computer savvy in this day and age. I hope future appointees to Cabinet positions are. Even I have been tested for some rather advanced computer skills applying for a low level minimum wage job.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)this was a major f-up, and I can't believe that anything that screwed up and incoherent could be an accident or done thru stupidity.
There was some kind of duplicity involved, I'm sure of it.
This is the definition I like for whatever transpired:Duplicity | Define Duplicity at Dictionary.com
Synonym Study 1. Deceit, guile, hypocrisy, duplicity, fraud, trickery refer either to practices designed to mislead or to the qualities that produce those practices.
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It was like chasing your tail. Click a link, and it takes you to something you started out with, try another link, and it doesn't take you where it said it would, click another, you end up at Marketplace where you started.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)applegrove
(118,682 posts)happen.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)This is business as usual. The difference is that you don't hear about other major systems.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)where millions or billions of dollars were spent for something that everyone is either criticizing or laughing at. I've not made any websites, but I've been to enough to know that ACA was screwed up beyond "accidental."
Read FarCenter's OP in http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024044904 and his Post#6.
We're not talking a few glitches that we could all overlook here.
Nobody would ever even buy a computer if the whole internet was like that site. It was a relief when I left it, but then sorrow like you wouldn't believe replaced it.
My President put a lot of faith in these charlatans, one's already gone. I feel that he was deceived.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)it is RW talking points that is forcing it to be a joke. Plenty of systems have gone wrong. Plenty of sub contractors have been bad. Usually companies can back out and go back to the old system, there is just no old system here. What they should have done is introduced it slowly. maybe a few states at a time. This is a huge system
I worked at Blue cross where incompetent consultants were a rule (and I say this as spending most of my career as a consultant) and a 6 year system had to be dropped because it was 10 times the original estimate and was never going to work. I had a friend work on a system fora brokerage that had to be backed out after a few hours because it threatened to take down the networks it interfaced with.
And you want to talk about the huge federal systems - try talking about the air traffic network. last I heard that was still simulating a computer from the 60's because no one has successfully been able to replace this system, they just don't talk about it because people would stop flying, people like me. I don't know how many times they tried to replace it, I think they finally did it piecemeal.
Why they did not expect it? I have no idea. But is it exaggerated - you betcha. I have seen a lot worse.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Call me crazy, but this is just too convenient. There is too much corporate money involved, and if the ACA is a success, the insurance companies will no longer be making a killing off of sick people.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)hacked, I mean a suspicion of, the AG needs to launch an investigation.