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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 07:32 PM Nov 2013

Yes, single payer is the goal

Yes, Obama should have let the medicare for all advocates get on stage and make a pitch, maybe even let them take over second half of a national address. If dean and Dennis failed, they coudl take the blame

Yes, the public option should have been kept

Yes, he should have pillioried Joe Liberman, even though Joe would cry "look at what this ->boy<- is doing to me!"

Even though Hillary would have secretly applauded the mayhem and used it for her 2012 or 2016 "you shoulda voted me in" campaign.
and yes, him trusting the insurance companies to NOT stab him was foolish. We know they are just biding their time till 2014 and 2016, when they can win elections and make Galt's Gulch look like a hippie commune.

However, there is one two things I notice:

One, a lot of people assume this would be quick and easy. It took the Canadians 60 years to get to single payer, and they did not have the GOP. While there is a lot of genuine criticism of Obama, a lot of it is still "why doesnt he snap his magic fingers and make it happen NOW!" Folks, we have a fifth colum. No, I will not call the GOP opposition. A fifth column that is well finded by people who wants to actually DESTROY the government, period!

And sadly, many of the people who complain that their cheap ass insurance is gone are the same no necks idiots that vote GOP, because they think nuttin ever happens to GOOD people. And of course, we reward Bill Clinton again for acting as president of the peanut gallery, just like when he told Obama not to be a "wuss."

But if the left wants to win, they cannot fall for the division, and to be persistent, neither Bill Clinton nor the GOp let anything stand in the way of consitency, so sadly, we need to be firm, even if it means 'wrong and strong". If we carve up the ACa in the name of "see Obama, you should have lsitened to me!" then all we will do is make it easy for the right to mow us down. that is reality, like it or not.

If the ACA fails, single payer dies, that is a fact,like it or not.


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