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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:24 PM Nov 2013

In Letters to Obama, 151 House Democrats, Bloc of GOP Announce Opposition to ‘Fast Track’ Trade Auth

WASHINGTON, D.C. – A letter sent today to President Barack Obama opposing Fast Track authority, signed by 151 House Democrats, signals the end of a controversial Nixon-era procedure used to railroad contentious trade pacts through Congress. Obama has asked Congress to delegate to him its constitutional trade authority via Fast Track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and other pacts.

The signers of the letter show the breadth and depth of Democratic House opposition to Fast Track. Signers include:

• 18 of 21 full committee ranking members and 72 subcommittee ranking members;
• Leadership members including Assistant Democratic Leader Jim Clyburn; Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chair Steve Israel; Steering and Policy Committee Co-Chairs Rosa DeLauro and Rob Andrews; and 35 of 48 Democratic Steering and Policy Committee members;
• 19 of the short list of Democrats who voted for the 2011 U.S.-Korea Free Trade Agreement;
• 26 of the 51 members of the New Democrat Coalition, and 8 of the 14 members of the Blue Dog Coalition; and
• 36 of 42 House members of the Congressional Black Caucus, and 13 of 19 House members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus

On Tuesday, 25 House Republicans members announced their opposition to Fast Track, and most Democratic Ways and Means Committee members joined a letter noting that the old Fast Track process enjoys little support. Even prominent supporters of past trade agreements who did not sign these letters recently have voiced their opposition to Fast Track.

“These letters make clear that Fast Track is history,” said Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. “When Nixon cooked up this scheme 40 years ago, trade pacts covered only tariffs. Now, deals like the TPP could rewrite wide swaths of U.S. policy, currently under the control of Congress, from food safety and financial regulation to Buy American procurement to energy policy.”

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In Letters to Obama, 151 House Democrats, Bloc of GOP Announce Opposition to ‘Fast Track’ Trade Auth (Original Post) n2doc Nov 2013 OP
Thank you Wikileaks!!! Scuba Nov 2013 #1
+1000 red dog 1 Nov 2013 #19
+10000 n/t ljm2002 Nov 2013 #22
this precedes Wikileaks- not that I'm not grateful for their work cali Nov 2013 #44
Cali, I didn't see any reports of this letter until after Wikileaks released the TPP draft. Are ... Scuba Nov 2013 #45
there's been rising opposition to fast track for months cali Nov 2013 #46
So, no. Scuba Nov 2013 #48
Yeah!!!!! Swede Atlanta Nov 2013 #2
Finally, some good news...knr joeybee12 Nov 2013 #3
That's EXCELLENT news! BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #4
Excellent. k&r n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #5
Excellent! City Lights Nov 2013 #6
Most of the GOP opposition is from the Tea Party. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #7
We should work with the Tea Party whenever we can BlueStreak Nov 2013 #10
If it's as awful as people are claiming. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #12
daydookrrrjaaaa!! progressoid Nov 2013 #13
We should, but how? merrily Nov 2013 #67
Good points. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #72
That may be true... ljm2002 Nov 2013 #24
We have never had a 'free trade' roody Nov 2013 #31
That's right. Trade agreements seem to only benefit the already wealthy. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #43
"there seems to a lot of special interests trying to spread propaganda against it " rhett o rick Nov 2013 #54
You're not the only one. I have a sneaking suspicion I'm a "special interest." Raksha Nov 2013 #55
That's kinda what I was thinking. nm rhett o rick Nov 2013 #56
When did being an ordinary citizen become a special interest? merrily Nov 2013 #68
The President's seemingly boundless enthusiasm and support for this monstrosity has left me AzDar Nov 2013 #8
I'm with you! Plucketeer Nov 2013 #51
Oh damn, I forgot: isn't fast-track authority granted by the SENATE BelgianMadCow Nov 2013 #9
Consent of both houses is required n2doc Nov 2013 #11
n2doc...I didn't see that in the Brookings Article... KoKo Nov 2013 #38
It's in there, as discussion of how this sort of thing came to be n2doc Nov 2013 #49
Great news! avaistheone1 Nov 2013 #14
That's not enough to stop it.. is it? DireStrike Nov 2013 #15
Great start. Phlem Nov 2013 #16
K&R...Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Nov 2013 #17
The President has lost control of Congressional Democrats MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #18
Here I go getting hopeful again! n/t AAO Nov 2013 #20
Time to show the people what is in this Trade deal! PuraVidaDreamin Nov 2013 #21
Just got this letter from My Senator Elizabeth Warren re: fast tracking PuraVidaDreamin Nov 2013 #23
It's disgusting that she (and we) have to beg to klnow what's in an agreement that is.... Armstead Nov 2013 #30
I wish Readers Digest would write the explanation of it. It boomersense Nov 2013 #25
Bringing the planet a fascist world in one fell swoop. pangaia Nov 2013 #29
Exactly. nt boomersense Nov 2013 #32
They've been doing that for millenia. merrily Nov 2013 #69
As far as I can tell it does end their sovereignty. Raksha Nov 2013 #57
I hope we will be able to give our opinions on this boomersense Nov 2013 #58
Of course you can give your opinion. Whether that will change the mind of anyone merrily Nov 2013 #70
Good! peacebird Nov 2013 #26
This effort to stop it needs to gain momentum Armstead Nov 2013 #27
K&R Chrom Nov 2013 #28
Hey, Hillary 2016 supporters, this is the kind of corporatist shit she supports! NuclearDem Nov 2013 #33
To the Powers the Be . . . Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #34
Agree Armstead Nov 2013 #41
I'll sign that. Change has come Nov 2013 #66
K&R! pa28 Nov 2013 #35
Yes! NealK Nov 2013 #36
Recommend jsr Nov 2013 #37
It would be interesting to determine... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #39
Agreed. Complacency is very dangerous. n/t GoneFishin Nov 2013 #40
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Nov 2013 #42
there's way too much at stake for the TPP to die this easily. KG Nov 2013 #47
Why do they hate Obama? n/t malthaussen Nov 2013 #50
They Hate Him Ccarmona Nov 2013 #53
To get elected these days takes a lot of money, Yavapai Nov 2013 #62
finally! liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #52
I'm a bit disappointed that my congresswoman, Suzanne Bonamici, didn't sign this... cascadiance Nov 2013 #59
House Dems have to say this to a DEMOCRATIC President?! tblue Nov 2013 #60
Ironic isn't it? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #65
We Need To Build On This Momentum colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #61
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #63
Hope the Democrats can block Obama's TransPacific Screwing & his "Grand Betrayal," er, Bargain. blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #64
Shouldn't we be contacting our state legislatures and Governors? merrily Nov 2013 #71
Glad to see my ctsnowman Nov 2013 #73
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
45. Cali, I didn't see any reports of this letter until after Wikileaks released the TPP draft. Are ...
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 06:11 AM
Nov 2013

... sure this preceeds the release?

Sure feels like the politicians were reacting.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
46. there's been rising opposition to fast track for months
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 06:53 AM
Nov 2013

in both houses but particularly in the House

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
2. Yeah!!!!!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

This is the worst possible thing for the U.S.

The more I read about this proposal it would decimate American workers but enrich their corporate masters even more.

We must say No, No and HELL No to this abomination.

Obama, we know you are listening into every phone conversation and e-mail so here is a straight communication that even you as someone from Chicago can understand NO!!!

 

HijackedLabel

(80 posts)
7. Most of the GOP opposition is from the Tea Party.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:42 PM
Nov 2013

Makes me conflicted until the President addresses the concerns himself.

He has a way of explaining things that special interests get wrong in the blogs and on the talk shows passing themselves off as news programs.

I'm not a proponent or opponent of the TPP. I don't know enough about it, but there seems to a lot of special interests trying to spread propaganda against it while the proponents are largely secretive and contribute to the disinformation by looking suspicious.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
10. We should work with the Tea Party whenever we can
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:54 PM
Nov 2013

They should be opposed to this mostly for the same reasons we are. Yeah, I know they don't give a shit about the environment. But they really should be concerned about the impact on jobs.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
67. We should, but how?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:41 AM
Nov 2013

The Tea Party is not going to like the state law override provisions, either.

But honestly, I don't think the Tea Party is that big. It's powerful beyond its size because of its backers. And its backers are the same ones who back TPP.

If we're going to reach out somehow, we may as well reach out to all Americans.

Again, though, how?

Our media stink. I don't know anyone who can make a big donation. Etc.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
72. Good points.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 03:43 PM
Nov 2013

At minimum, we ought to be able to use this to let the rank and file Tea Party people see just how much they have been used.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
24. That may be true...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

...and a lot of the Republican opposition to NSA's spying overreaches was also from the Tea Party. So? That doesn't make them wrong on those issues.

The reason you don't know enough about it, is that negotiations have been kept secret -- even from our Senators and Representatives in Congress, while allowing over 600 representatives from the private sector participate actively in negotiations. That in itself is enough to reject it IMO.

But if you do want to know more about it, here is a link to the Trade Secret part of the treaty as it currently stands, courtesy of Wikileaks:

http://wikileaks.org/tpp/static/pdf/Wikileaks-secret-TPP-treaty-IP-chapter.pdf

Enjoy.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
54. "there seems to a lot of special interests trying to spread propaganda against it "
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:54 PM
Nov 2013

I would be very interested in what special interests are spreading propaganda against it.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
55. You're not the only one. I have a sneaking suspicion I'm a "special interest."
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:13 PM
Nov 2013

That hasn't happened in a long time.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
68. When did being an ordinary citizen become a special interest?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:46 AM
Nov 2013

Not meaning to imply that you, as an individual, are ordinary, but you know what I mean.

We're the one group that no one in Washington represents.

Even if the rich supposedly pay most of the money that goes into the Treasury, I've started to wonder why I'm paying any taxes at all.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
8. The President's seemingly boundless enthusiasm and support for this monstrosity has left me
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:47 PM
Nov 2013

horrified and confused. WTF, Barack?

BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
9. Oh damn, I forgot: isn't fast-track authority granted by the SENATE
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

making what the House thinks less relevant/critical? I'm looking at Wikipedia, but it's not clear how an administration gets this authority.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
49. It's in there, as discussion of how this sort of thing came to be
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 08:03 AM
Nov 2013
Prior to the twentieth century, regulation of foreign commerce was almost exclusively a congressional prerogative. Tariffs were considered to be more a function of domestic tax policy than of foreign affairs and, as such, were subject to change only by an act of Congress.



The article clearly points out that these sorts of agreements are tax policy, not diplomacy, and this must be agreed upon by both houses of Congress.
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
18. The President has lost control of Congressional Democrats
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:53 PM
Nov 2013

And while that means that little will get done in the next 3 years, it will also prevent some serious damage like the TPP and cutting strengthening Social Security.

Hopefully we can also slow the NSA until we have an Executive that can end their mischief.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,101 posts)
23. Just got this letter from My Senator Elizabeth Warren re: fast tracking
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 08:30 PM
Nov 2013

Dear Debra,

Thank you for contacting me about trade promotion authority (TPA).

As you may know, under TPA (or "Fast Track" authority), Congress agrees to expedited consideration of legislation that implements a trade agreement and agrees to vote on such legislation without amendment. In turn, the President must consult regularly with Congress and let Congress help define negotiating objectives. TPA expired in 2007, and it is up to Congress to decide whether to renew it.

I believe Congress must play a substantial role in crafting trade policy. The Constitution gives Congress the power to "regulate commerce with foreign nations," and Congress should not hastily cede that power because of the enormous impact that trade agreements have on our economy. They affect access to foreign markets and a wide variety of public policy issues - everything from wages, jobs, the environment, and the Internet to monetary policy, pharmaceuticals, and financial services.

On June 13, 2013, I sent a letter urging U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman to support increased transparency in negotiations over the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). I asked him to immediately make public the bracketed text of the TPP, or at least make available a scrubbed version of the bracketed text like the Bush Administration did in 2001 during the negotiations for the Free Trade Area of the Americas. Unfortunately, Mr. Froman refused to commit to making this information available to the public. I will keep pushing in this direction because I believe transparency is critical in allowing for Congress and the American people to have a voice in the negotiations.

Thank you again for reaching out to me on this issue, and I hope that you will continue to keep me informed about issues that are important to you.

Sincerely,

Elizabeth Warren
United States Senator

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
30. It's disgusting that she (and we) have to beg to klnow what's in an agreement that is....
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:16 PM
Nov 2013

supposedly being negotiated and signed in OUR names.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
25. I wish Readers Digest would write the explanation of it. It
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
Nov 2013

is very difficult to read and understand--at least for me. From what I understand of it, if fully enacted it ends the countries that sign it their sovereignty. We would in effect be slaves. And letters to Bernie Sanders would be useless.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
69. They've been doing that for millenia.
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:48 AM
Nov 2013

This is just the cherry on top.

Make that near the top. I'm sure they are already working on something that will be even worse.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
57. As far as I can tell it does end their sovereignty.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:27 PM
Nov 2013

That's why the teabaggers are against, and why progressives should be against it too. There ARE still a few issues that transcend partisan politics, and this is one of them. What American citizen would want to surrender America's sovereignty to a multinational global cartel?

As someone pointed out on another thread, the TPP goes beyond corporate personhood and is a big step towards corporate nationhood. That's the real reason for the unprecedented level of secrecy.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
58. I hope we will be able to give our opinions on this
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:36 PM
Nov 2013

monstrosity and not get slapped down like the girl did this morning. TPP is pure Inverse Fascism. By inverse I mean the head is the corporations rather than the politicos, like is more normal.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
70. Of course you can give your opinion. Whether that will change the mind of anyone
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 09:51 AM
Nov 2013

in Washington is a different question.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
34. To the Powers the Be . . .
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:48 PM
Nov 2013

The American people, indeed all the people of the world, are not party to this agreement. It was negotiated in secret and an attempt will be made rush it through the ratification process with little debate.

The fact that there was so much secrecy in the negotiating the agreement is reason enough to oppose it. Usually, data is classified to keep enemies from knowing military secrets. However, this is a trade deal, not the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. I do not understand what there is about a trade deal that needed to be kept secret.

However, we suspected all along that the Trans-Pacific Partnership was an agreement among a motley collection of corporate fascists to undermine democracy. The enemies who had to be kept in the dark about what these polluters, crooked bankers, arms merchants, Frankenfood manufacturers and bought politicians had agreed were none other than the people of world themselves. This agreement benefits no one but the greedy and self-important.

To paraphrase President Eisenhower speaking of the Geneva Accords that brought about an end to the French Indochina War, since we are not a party to this agreement, we are not bound by it. And indeed, like the US government in the years following the Geneva Accords, we will do everything we can to subvert the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

We will not be told the we have no right to expect that our elected representatives in our parliaments and legislatures will act to abate pollution, provide for public health, regulate markets and assure workers of fair wages and safe working conditions while there and that they will like comfortably and independently after each one of them retires.

The natural resources of the earth belong to us, living people made of flesh and blood. Corporations have no rights other than those we deem fit to give them. Please tell some arrogant corporate executives that we have a right to enjoy access to water and anyu other resource necessary to sustain life; Nestle's Corporation does not. Nestle's Corporation has nothing more than the right to stay in business so long as they pull an honest profit, and we are the ones who decide what is honest.

One that last thought. I would like to tell you corporations to get fucked, but it wouldn't do any good. It might if you were real people, but as artificial persons getting fucked won't make you happy or put you in a better disposition. Perhaps that why it flatters you to be thought rapacious. Now, artificial persons, bow to your flesh and blood masters.

Peace, justice and human brotherhood.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
39. It would be interesting to determine...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:30 PM
Nov 2013

which Democrats didn't sign the letter and ask them why.

I wouldn't let my guard down on this just yet.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
53. They Hate Him
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

Only because he is guilty of being President while being black.
That said, he's still one of them. As to those on the right that insist he's a Marxist, Socialist, etc. are just ignorant to what those words mean.

 

Yavapai

(825 posts)
62. To get elected these days takes a lot of money,
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 05:51 PM
Nov 2013

So, it looks like President Obama is just one more in a long list of corporate whores.

The 1% corporate elite have the American people divided over issues like abortion, gun rights and such, while they take us from democracy to fascism. As repugnant as it seems, we best start having a dialog with the tea party and take back control of the USA.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
59. I'm a bit disappointed that my congresswoman, Suzanne Bonamici, didn't sign this...
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:58 PM
Nov 2013

... and a more "moderate" Oregon Dem rep, Kurt Schrader did. Must be that Nike and some other big corps from the west side of Portland were putting pressure on her to stop her from doing so. I think we should all send thanks to those who did vote for this and use examples of how even less progressive Dems like Shrader voted for it as a way to put more constituent pressure on those who didn't to step up the next time a vote like this comes up. We will need their votes in the future for other similar measures.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
61. We Need To Build On This Momentum
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 05:22 PM
Nov 2013

Obama apologists would have a Hell of a time trying to rationalize their guy wanting to ram this through using fast track.

Hillary is a corporate type democrat as well, but she'd do well to read the tea leaves. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown, Alan Grayson, Jeff Merkley, they have the pulse of where the majority of us are.

There is one statement I agree with Tea party types about - we do need to reclaim our country. They're just misguided as to what the problem is.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
71. Shouldn't we be contacting our state legislatures and Governors?
Sat Nov 16, 2013, 10:00 AM
Nov 2013

My understanding is that parts of TPP allow businesses to override state law. If so, don't at least our state legislatures and Governors owe it to us to speak up on that issue? Maybe our Mayors and City Councillors as well?

I'm very dubious that online petitions or contacting anyone in Washington does anything. But I think, say, a mayor or a state rep can't afford to be too indifferent to constituents. Besides, they might actually care about this for their own sakes.

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