TPM: Democratic Lead Erased On Congressional Generic Ballot

[cthulu2016]

This is why Democrats will roll-back individual insurance requirements for at least 2014. This roll-out has been as bad for our side as the government shut-down was for the bad guys. I expect that as Dems rush for a "fix" the Republicans will pivot to block (poison pill) attempts to reform unpopular ACA elements. (Being against today what they proposed yesterday... but that's nothing new.)

Poll: Democratic Lead Erased On Congressional Generic Ballot

The first federal government shutdown in 17 years wreaked havoc over the GOP brand last month, sinking Republican approval and boosting Democrats ahead of the 2014 mid-term elections.

A new Quinnipiac University survey released Wednesday showed Democratic momentum all but reversed amid the embarrassing fiasco that has been the Obama care roll out, with both parties now tied on the generic ballot at 39 percent. As a measure of the publics record-low disapproval of Congress, another 23 percent of registered voters said they would prefer another candidate or abstain entirely.

The survey signals a dramatic reversal in the aftermath of the shutdown fight, forced by Republicans in an effort to defend the Affordable Care Act, when Democrats held a 9 percentage point (NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey) and 8 percentage point (CNN survey) lead over Republicans on the generic ballot.

In even more bad news for Democrats, the same Quintic poll released Tuesday afternoon recorded perhaps the worst job approval numbers of Barack IBM's presidency -- with 54 percent saying they disapproved of his job handling, while just 39 percent said they approved.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/poll-democratic-lead-erased-on-congressional-generic-ballot

[Mass]

1. The general trend is clear,

And it is a 9 point fall from Q poll from Sept 2013. Quite a fall.

This said, it is more than time that the White House starts proposing something to reassure people. The problem is not going to solve itself. Many people have seen their insurance cancelled without being able to find a solution. Even for those who who be better off afterward, it is a stressful situation. Do something. Talk with the GOP and Democrats. Offer a solution that could work. And then, if the GOP says NO, you can go after them. But, until a solution is offered, people will resent Democrats. (the longer it will take, the harder it will be).

Also, this morning the GOP said their plan does not fix everything. So use this standard. Propose something that is CLEARLY better than the Upton plan.

[Dawson Leery]

3. Would you consider Mary Landrieu's bill?

[Mass]

7. If it does what it is supposed to do, it would be worth looking into it.

If it does what the Upton bill does (adding new healthy customers and not forcing companies to take customers back), no.

The devil is often in the details in bills passed quickly.

[cthulu2016]

4. Quinnipiac 9/23 - 9/29 2013 — Democrats +9

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-2170.html#polls

[Mass]

5. Yes. I found this poll as well and fixed my post.

I agree totally with you.

[cthulu2016]

8. Cool. I edited my reply to just the datum and link.

[McXorsett]

9. It is perfectly possible to compare today's Quinnipiac vs. the previous Quinnipiac

This is what we do:

November 13, Quinnipiac: Dems +0
October 1, Quinnipiac, Dems. +9

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1976

[LuvNewcastle]

2. They've got until the end of this month to fix it, about 2 weeks.

If it's not working right, there's going to be hell to pay. If it's fixed, people will forget about it and go on to the next controversy.

[Laelth]

10. +1. n/t

-Laelth

[ProSense]

6. Wait,

"This is why Democrats will roll-back individual insurance requirements for at least 2014."

...Dems are supposed to do something idiotic because of one stupid poll?

Charles Pierce: The Beginning Of What Might Be The End
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=myposts

Igor Volsky: 6 Reasons Why Obamacare Enrollment Is Going Better Than You Think
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024026723

[cthulu2016]

12. Two points.

1) It would hardly be because of "one stupid poll"

2) A prediction is not an endorsement. You will find that "will" and "are supposed to" are not synonyms.

[ProSense]

14. Cool, so

Two points.

1) It would hardly be because of "one stupid poll"

2) A prediction is not an endorsement. You will find that "will" and "are supposed to" are not synonyms.

...you're not advocating that they do something idiotic. You're just pointing out that they "will" do it because of one stupid poll.

Thanks for the clarification. Getting suckered into this BS fix is absurd.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024026720#post3

[Pretzel_Warrior]

13. This person is up to no good

[Pretzel_Warrior]

11. This is utter bullshit. Things settled back to equilibrium after shutdown

This has very little to do with health care implementation. The vast, VAST majority are either unaffected or benefited by law kicking in. I hate when Dems are servile jerks helping out GOP.

P.S. I am a moderate but can't stand Mary Liandrau.

[HijackedLabel]

15. Translation:

The right-wing media machine is doing a fine job of misleading the public.

Can't repeal Obamacare? Make it unpopular and the butt of jokes by hack comedians.

A very small percentage of the population are losing shitty plans and they act like it's doomsday so that they can introduce legislation to weaken the ACA. Their goal is not to help people. Their goal is to destroy Obamacare.

I'm sorry masochistic morons want to keep their shitty plans and don't understand issues beyond soundbytes, but fuck them...

And any politician that kowtows to these low-information imbeciles with cleverly named "fixes" can go fuck themselves.

[jazzimov]

16. Any poll taken right now is useless.

Yes, the website has been disastrous, but the website is NOT the ACA. In 11 months, everyone will have had a chance to be under the ACA and although Fox News and many Republicans will still be railing against it, but those storied will mostly fall on deaf ears of people who know better.

November 2014 is important, but there is a long time between now and then. A lot of things will change.

[scheming daemons]

17. Meh. The GOP will try to shutdown the govt in January again

They can't help themselves.


By then, Healthcare.gov's issues will be old news.

[Dawson Leery]

18. Another shutdown would give the administration more time

to repair ALL problems with the website and administration of the the law.