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Rand Paul wants his audience to believe that this shows the government thinks youre too stupid to make your own decisions, and that shows how stupid he actually thinks his audience is. No one is doing this because they think youre stupid. On the contrary! Its because the FDA officials realize that knowing what trans fats are and what they do to your body is specialized knowledge, and not having that knowledge doesnt say anything about your baseline intelligence. I imagine the FDA officials who are prescribing this dont think that theyre being accused of being stupid if they dont, say, know how to fix an internal combustion engine. The notion that youre being accused of being stupid if you dont know all things at all times is a childish way to think. Or, you might say, stupid.
I think Im a fairly intelligent person who has performed well on standardized tests and whatnot. But when I walk into a coffee shop and purchase a baked good, I have zero ability to know how much damage its doing to me on a molecular level just by looking at it. I cant tell if its made with butter, olive oil, or a trans fat. I do not have X-ray vision or psychic powers. I am not insulted if you point this out. On the contrary, Im grateful to live in a world where basic survival doesnt require me to know all the things all the time. But libertarian paradise is not only one where trans fats arent banned, but also one where the baker is allowed to withhold that information from me. Basically, to not be stupid by the libertarian estimation, you really do need to have psychic powers.
Indeed, the childish/stupid insistence that the only way youre being respected is if we pretend you know all the things all the time is the governing philosophy of libertarianism. Which, ironically, is why I have no fucking respect for them at all. Its idiotic to ignore the fact that we live in a complex world where the things that need to be known are so numerous that no one person can hold them in their heads at all time. We divide people up and give them ownership of certain forms of knowledge and allow each other to be the authorities for it. For example, I can rattle off all sorts of shit about reproductive health off the top of my head, but I couldnt remember what it was exactly that made trans fat so bad. So I googled it. But even that is really too big an ask if someone is trying to do something as simple as make a $2 purchase of a donut at an airport kiosk. It really is okay not to know everything about every kind of bad thing you could eat. Thats why we, as the taxpayers, hire someone to do that job for us. And then a bunch of whining children who have bizarre ideas about respect complain about it. Jesus.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/13/for-libertarianism-to-work-people-have-to-know-all-the-things-all-the-time/
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Pick any topic and any significant portion the population cannot have any significant sense of expertise about it.
It's why there are usually representative forms of government. And really, it's why we have parties. We vote for and support people with a certain sense of "trust". Not in a "I trust my friend" sense, but in a "people like that tend to vote this way".
It's why the whole campaign funding thing is so toxic. Because at the end of the day the reality is that you can't really "trust" elected officials. They become the "Senator from Aetna" in the end and one doesn't really find out often until it is way to late to do anything.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)phantom power
(25,966 posts)If consumers care about knowing what's in their products, they can travel to all the factories and investigate it themselves. You know, in the couple hours of spare time we all have each day, with all that extra travel money we all have laying around.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Dash87
(3,220 posts)I like the Bioshock series because it is, in itself, a statement on why Libertarianism doesn't work.
The story goes that a man named Andrew Ryan built a city at the bottom of the ocean that was meant to be a Libertarian paradise. Only the most intelligent and gifted were allowed in. The idea was that the city would be an epicenter the scientific and artistically-minded.
The problem was that, the superior people in the libertarian paradise felt that menial tasks were below them, so servants were brought in. These servants were second class citizens, and became resentful. With that, revolution began, and the city became a hellish war zone.
Libertarianism requires a perfect world to work. It's another utopian pipe dream that ultimately always fails. In the case of Andrew Ryan's Rapture, a snobbish upperclass pushed an abused underclass to revolt. If there is nothing to level the playing field in society, resentment leads to anger which leads to war.