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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:40 PM Nov 2013

"Americans Have Had It with Obama and Congress" --Atlantic Wire


Allie Jones 4:52 PM ET

According to Tuesday's Quinnipiac poll, President Obama just posted his lowest approval rating ever. Only 39 percent of Americans approve of the commander-in-chief; 54 percent disapprove. When it comes to Congress, people are even less confident. Tuesday's Gallup poll shows that just 9 percent approve of Congress, also the lowest approval rating in Gallup's 39-year history of asking the question.



Gallup poll respondents find Democrats and Republicans in Congress to be doing an equally crappy job. Americans "favor" Dems by one percent, as shown in the table at right. The table also illustrates that despite the fact the shutdown is over, Congress' favorability rating continues to drop.

For the president, Obamacare's troubled rollout and his "keep your plan" misrepresentation seem to have hit the hardest. A full 60 percent disapprove of Obama's handling of health care policy, and 52 percent find him to be untrustworthy. He's hit George W. Bush lows now, which we warned last week could happen.

MORE with SAM STEIN TWEET AT:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/11/americans-have-had-it-here-president-and-congress/71520/




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"Americans Have Had It with Obama and Congress" --Atlantic Wire (Original Post) KoKo Nov 2013 OP
Quinnipiac was voted worst pollsters of 2012. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #1
+1 Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #5
Pew and Gallup show the same thing. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #7
Need I remind you of "unskewed polls"? We know how well that sort of thought worked for Mittens n/t ReverendDeuce Nov 2013 #11
54% disapproval means a lot of people who voted FOR you, now disapprove. Scuba Nov 2013 #2
Yep... WillyT Nov 2013 #4
The President's approval will rebound when the ACA website fix is finished in two bluestate10 Nov 2013 #6
Two Weeks ??? WillyT Nov 2013 #8
It will take more than 2 weeks for people to be less irritated. Mass Nov 2013 #12
No one has mentioned that. I think that's incredible that Massachusetts Romney Care KoKo Nov 2013 #16
Yes. Commonwealth care closes and people have to re-register to the new exchange. Mass Nov 2013 #18
or could it be FirstLight Nov 2013 #17
Yes, people ARE sick of not being represented, of the protection, and WORSE, the rewarding sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #23
+1 woo me with science Nov 2013 #22
And yet, it's due to the screw-up of a well-intended effort to provide health coverage TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #3
We didn't have the press lying and bashing everything either of those president's did either. Obama okaawhatever Nov 2013 #10
Racism plays a role, it's hard to say how much--but what that racism does is TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #13
Seems to me this is a self-inflicted crisis. Mass Nov 2013 #9
Your last sentence pretty much sums it up for me too..... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #14
LOL ... When Pres. Obama's numbers improve, polls good. 1000words Nov 2013 #15
K&R Enough of the looting. woo me with science Nov 2013 #19
Get Americans to dislike the government ... reduce turnout ... and give the GOP a chance. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #20
Luckily Obama isn't up for re-election. ProSense Nov 2013 #21

ReverendDeuce

(1,643 posts)
11. Need I remind you of "unskewed polls"? We know how well that sort of thought worked for Mittens n/t
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:08 PM
Nov 2013

n/t

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
2. 54% disapproval means a lot of people who voted FOR you, now disapprove.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:44 PM
Nov 2013

Could it be they want you to stand up for them? To stop trying to appease the unappeasable?

Or do you think they want you to move further right?

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
6. The President's approval will rebound when the ACA website fix is finished in two
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:50 PM
Nov 2013

weeks. So, don't get to anticipatory. You are likely to end up having a horrid 2014.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
8. Two Weeks ???
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:54 PM
Nov 2013

I love that systemic software problems can be solved by Presidential decree.

I work for the State of California... let me tell ya...

it ain't true.


Mass

(27,315 posts)
12. It will take more than 2 weeks for people to be less irritated.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:09 PM
Nov 2013

I live in MA, the state that should have had no problem.

Guess what, some genius decided that everybody who was already on the exchange has to re-register, provide all the information once again, and told people to do that 2 months before the deadline. Guess what. The website is overloaded and crashes. So my husband will fill the 38 paper pages so that they can be received in time to be sure he will still be insured in January.

And, as I said, this is the state that has the least problems. We already had extended Medicaid and an exchange that was running. So, I do not want to imagine how it is in states that had nothing.

So, let's be clear. If people like me, who were 100 % behind the exchange once it became clear this was the best we would get, are irritated, imagine what people who were already on the fence must feel like.

It will take more than 2 weeks to solve this. Of course, the GOP will help by its stupidity, but it would be nice if something was done to help people.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. No one has mentioned that. I think that's incredible that Massachusetts Romney Care
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:58 PM
Nov 2013

folks now have to go all through this AGAIN! Are you sure of this?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
18. Yes. Commonwealth care closes and people have to re-register to the new exchange.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:32 AM
Nov 2013

The policy offered by the exchange are basically the same as before, so my husband should be able to get the same insurance at a similar, but he needs to do the work once again (considering we did it this summer, it is irritating).

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
17. or could it be
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 11:12 PM
Nov 2013

that the people are tired of feeling like our government holds us in contempt? What about NSA surveillance? what about the prosecution of journalists like James Risen? What about AG Holder supporting a brief filed earlier this year that takes away the power of the fourth estate?

He rejected any idea of a reporter’s first amendment right to protect a source in criminal proceedings. The brief described a working reporter who hears classified information during an interview with a government official as the equivalent of being a witness to a crime, under the Espionage Act of 1917...

This is top of my list, but I was pissed at our POTUS for NOT prosecuting the Banksters, NOT standing up for the poor and all the other shit he promised us would really happen this time around...and it hasn't.

People are sick of the shell game

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. Yes, people ARE sick of not being represented, of the protection, and WORSE, the rewarding
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:46 PM
Nov 2013

of Wall St criminals, not to mention War Criminals. And look what all the 'compromising' has done. Republicans still refuse to give Dems any credit for abandoning their base and catering to them.

The country would respect someone who just did the right thing and didnt worry about the consequences.

No one expects to get everything they want, but when the major issues like applying Rule of Law to the top 1% are ignored and it is so transparent that the criminals who collapsed the economy get bailed out while their victims are jobless and homeless, it's amazing the polls are as good as they are even at 9%.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. And yet, it's due to the screw-up of a well-intended effort to provide health coverage
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

for everyone, and not a wholly-unnecessary war that left thousands of American soldiers in graves, or disabled. Obama has to be perfect, even in trying to do something GOOD, or his approval levels sink to that of the mass-murdering Bush/Cheney regime. Clinton totally screwed the pooch in his second term. Yeah, tell me there's no racism.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
10. We didn't have the press lying and bashing everything either of those president's did either. Obama
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:03 PM
Nov 2013

faces unique challenges. if we don't get campaign finance reform, it will be favorability pre-and post-Citizens United.
Racism plays a part, but he went after the big money folks. They're retaliating in a big way. Clinton went after health-care reform and the following congressional election was not good for the dems.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
13. Racism plays a role, it's hard to say how much--but what that racism does is
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:17 PM
Nov 2013

add an extra layer of people who will never approve of him, on top of the people who simply hate him for being a Democrat or hate his policies, personality, job performance, whatever. So he is operating within narrower margins, with less benefit of the doubt, than Clinton or any other President. Any serious mistake and he plummets. He has not actually MADE any big mistakes until the ACA rollout--the whole Benghazi thing was just a terror attack, it didn't hurt him except to the people who already hated him. That IRS thing hasn't been tied to him, and isn't even all that politically unfair. Planned intervention in Syria and the Snowden stuff hurt him a little, but that couldn't really be helped. He is a good man, but not perfect, and unfortunately, he pretty much has to be perfect and will be judged more harshly.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
9. Seems to me this is a self-inflicted crisis.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 08:58 PM
Nov 2013

The GOP is horrible and their leaders have lost the reins and control nothing. They follow.

Congressional Democrats are tone deaf when they speak to the general public and behave as if they were referring a football game. It is people's life they are playing with. May be looking as if they cared (BTW, where is the Voting Rights Act? Where are bills that will really impact people's life? Good to see that they are thinking of rising minimum wage -- not that it is going to happen -- but we need a lot more bills like that).

The White House seems engulfed in scandals of all sorts, most of them self-inflicted (Who is the idiot who thought saying "you can keep your healthcare" and writing it on the white house website was a good idea. Anybody who had a minimum interest in the issue knew it would not be the case. ). Not to think about the website, and the veteran website, and the spying crisis, ... The lack of public answer on these issues gives the impression to people who are just ambivalent about Obama that he is not trustworthy.

Of course, I agree with the WH and Congressional Democrats, but the truth is that government is not about immobility. And right now, it is immobility. Clearly a number of people think it is more the GOP fault, but it hurts Obama as well, particularly as it gives the impression nobody wants to talk to nobody.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
14. Your last sentence pretty much sums it up for me too.....
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:26 PM
Nov 2013

The botched rollout and the "surprise" of insurance companies fucking over their potential customers has tarred everybody with the same brush to one extent or another. Congress is worse of course, but Congress started out worse.

As an aside, 9%? That's pretty bad. I'm a commie and I think that Marxists have higher ratings than that.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
20. Get Americans to dislike the government ... reduce turnout ... and give the GOP a chance.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:12 AM
Nov 2013

That's about sums it up.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
21. Luckily Obama isn't up for re-election.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

These polls likely reflect the reaction to the bogus reports on Benghazi, phony health care stories and the RW talking points.

The number of people who buy into media BS is astounding. When the air clears, Congress' approval will still suck, and the President's will recover.

Those up for re-election in 2014 are going to be spinning their asses off.

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