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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:19 PM Mar 2012

Coke And Pepsi Are Changing Their Soda Recipes So They Don't Have To Bear A Cancer-Warning Label

Coca-Cola Co. and PepsiCo Inc. are changing the way they make the caramel coloring used in their sodas as a result of a California law that mandates drinks containing a certain level of carcinogens bear a cancer warning label

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/coke-and-pepsi-are-changing-their-soda-recipes-so-they-dont-have-to-bear-a-cancer-warning-label-2012-3

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Coke And Pepsi Are Changing Their Soda Recipes So They Don't Have To Bear A Cancer-Warning Label (Original Post) FarCenter Mar 2012 OP
Once again, thank you California for leading the way in food safety. qb Mar 2012 #1
Looks like they are near the middle of the pack Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #4
What makes you think there's a direct correlation between cancer mortality and consumer protection? EOTE Mar 2012 #5
If it can't be measured, how do we know it's working? Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #6
It's working because consumers are MORE INFORMED. EOTE Mar 2012 #10
A Food and Drug Administration spokesman noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #13
Yes. It is silly to get too excited about one or two carcinogens in your diet. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #21
Not to encourage adding known carcinogens to food, but hedgehog Mar 2012 #14
Could be that too. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #15
We in California have a lot of problems with environmental factors that JDPriestly Mar 2012 #18
I imagine if some Californians are drinking 1000 cans of cola a day then there are a whole host of Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #19
This is just drmeow Mar 2012 #22
I looked and looked, but all charts seem to be fairly specific. They all seem to follow the same Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #28
Any theories about why the Northeast shows markedly higher rates? Jim Lane Mar 2012 #26
Too much pepperoni pizza? nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #27
I would rather have it clear marlakay Mar 2012 #2
Crystal Pepsi Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #8
I have always been a coke person marlakay Mar 2012 #23
I tasted Crystal Pepsi and its taste was nothing like that of real Pepsi. Louisiana1976 Mar 2012 #24
Must be the lack of caramel coloring. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #25
How about this comment from the article KansDem Mar 2012 #3
"their drinks have always been safe" SOS Mar 2012 #29
Never drink either Coke or Pepsi. RebelOne Mar 2012 #7
It would have been nice if they had refrained from putting carcinogens in there in the 1st place. Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #9
Finally, those who drink 1000 cans a day will be safe! hughee99 Mar 2012 #11
The premise is that a high dose given to a small hedgehog Mar 2012 #12
Damnit! I am gonna have to cut way back! Behind the Aegis Mar 2012 #17
If we drink Coke, then it's Mexican Coca-Cola Jello Biafra Mar 2012 #16
Just keep it under 1000 per day. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #20

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
5. What makes you think there's a direct correlation between cancer mortality and consumer protection?
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:39 PM
Mar 2012

Have you not heard of these little things called "confounding variables"?

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
6. If it can't be measured, how do we know it's working?
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:42 PM
Mar 2012

Have cancer rates risen for those drinking Coke rather than Sprite?

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
10. It's working because consumers are MORE INFORMED.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:00 PM
Mar 2012

This really isn't all that difficult. Is your contention that we'd be better off if we DIDN'T receive more information about the carcinogens that are put in our own bodies? You're taking the stand that information is dangerous. If you want to wallow in ignorance, you're more than welcome to. I take the position that there is no knowledge that is not power.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
13. A Food and Drug Administration spokesman noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:06 PM
Mar 2012

cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents.

I tend to drink a tad less.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
21. Yes. It is silly to get too excited about one or two carcinogens in your diet.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:33 PM
Mar 2012

Dose makes the poison in most cases.

It is good for us to know what our food contains and what effect it might have on us. But it is foolish to panic.

I have to laugh at some of my friends who, on the one hand, insist on buying organic fruits and vegetables, and on the other hand, drink lots of alcoholic beverages and smoke. Of course, then they also complain a lot about our medical professionals and prefer natural healing to science. It's just crazy nonsense.

But it is good to know when carcinogens are present in our food. This is especially true for people with certain conditions or sensitivities.

I have friends who strangely think that they don't have to wash organic vegetables because after all they don't have those carcinogenic chemicals on them. No, dear but they do have organic waste on them and all the bacteria that the organic waste my carry into your kitchen. Am I opposed to organic food? Not at all. I love it. But, I think we should be careful regardless of what we eat and not only worry about carcinogens.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
14. Not to encourage adding known carcinogens to food, but
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:08 PM
Mar 2012

that map also correlates to areas with low sun exposure (low Vitamin D levels) and/or high exposure to agricultural pesticides and/or petrochemicals. Take special note of the clusters at New Orleans, Houston, San Francisco, Florida.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. We in California have a lot of problems with environmental factors that
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:22 PM
Mar 2012

can help cause cancer including smog which is horrible on summer days even now that we have stricter air control laws. Then we had shipyards during WWII in which asbestos was used. Plus, some of the early nuclear work was done here.

And don't forget that the wonderful sunshine we enjoy can contribute to skin cancer. So many of my friends have skin cancers removed from time to time.

Smoking rates have declined drastically in California, but it will take many years before the decrease in smoking reduces the cancer rates.

So we have a legacy of environmental factors that can contribute to our cancer rate.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
19. I imagine if some Californians are drinking 1000 cans of cola a day then there are a whole host of
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:23 PM
Mar 2012

other problems that we are not hearing about.

 

Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
28. I looked and looked, but all charts seem to be fairly specific. They all seem to follow the same
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:52 AM
Mar 2012

trend though.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
26. Any theories about why the Northeast shows markedly higher rates?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:33 AM
Mar 2012

That kind of geographic factor isn't usually so stark.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
2. I would rather have it clear
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:29 PM
Mar 2012

But taste the same..I don't drink soda anymore but this is a good start for those that do.

marlakay

(11,482 posts)
23. I have always been a coke person
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 08:56 PM
Mar 2012

don't like the taste of pepsi, classic coke because its not as sweet.

So coke should try a clear one…I bet pepsi though lost a lot of $$. probably didn't look right to people!

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. How about this comment from the article
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012
Coca Cola and Pepsi say their drinks have always been safe and that their sodas will not taste any different.

Yeah, sure..."always been safe" but we're still going to remove the cancer-causing caramel coloring anyway...

I'm so glad I quit drinking their shit in 1980...

SOS

(7,048 posts)
29. "their drinks have always been safe"
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:09 PM
Mar 2012

but they were a lot more fun between 1885 and 1929
when they had cocaine in them!

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
7. Never drink either Coke or Pepsi.
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 05:42 PM
Mar 2012

In fact, never drink any sodas. Occasionally, I'll drink a Dr. Pepper, but that is probably once a year at the most. So I am in no danger of getting cancer from sodas.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
11. Finally, those who drink 1000 cans a day will be safe!
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:01 PM
Mar 2012

"A Food and Drug Administration spokesman noted that a consumer would have to drink more than 1,000 cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered that have shown links to cancer in rodents."

I'm willing to bet for those who drink 1000 cans a day, the cancer they might get from this isn't their biggest health problem.


hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. The premise is that a high dose given to a small
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 06:05 PM
Mar 2012

number of rats over a short time will capture the effect of a long term low dose over a large population of humans.

I have no idea if this premise has ever been proven one way or another, but it makes sense to me.

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