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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2nd NM man reports forced anal exams by local police
Yesteday a DU post about a man subjected to horrendous forced and illegal medical treatment because local cops insisted he had drugs in his anus.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10023981384
The same local news station that reported theyhave now heard from a 2nd male victim:
Police reports state deputies stopped Timothy Young because he turned without putting his blinker on.
Again, Leo the K-9 alerts on Young's seat.
Young is taken to the Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City, and just like Eckert, he's subjected to medical procedures including x-rays of his stomach and an anal exam.
Again, police found nothing, and again the procedures were done without consent, and in a county not covered by the search warrant.
We've learned more about that drug dog, Leo, that seems to get it wrong pretty often.
He might be getting it wrong because he's not even certified in New Mexico.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml#.UnpoOVO33rN
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It seems they have an open and shut case. Until these out of control cops start getting hit hard in the pocketbook they'll continue to be thugs.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)in this situation might be hesitant to publicize what happend to them. It's rape and assault afterall.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)bottom of this earlier report has copy of lawsuit.
I would imagine #2 victim will be filing also
and
any other victims will be coming forward.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3209305.shtml?cat=500#.UnkAjpFAeiK
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)Also in there, the hospital sent the victim a bill for $6000. Two of their doctors are facing malpractice suits from this.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Holy shit. Mega lawsuit. Has all the earmarks of a conspiracy.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Take the pigs pensions and make sure those doctor's wasted hundreds of thousands on their education for nothing.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)I think it should be in the tens of millions. What we have is a conspiracy between local cops, county sheriffs, prosecuting attorney, a hospital, and several doctors to violate civil rights, commit armed assault, battery and rape. There might be additional crimes, like lying to the warrant-issuing judge, also.
Jimmy1
(2 posts)The Police and DA's office do not want to take this case to court. Yes, they know they'll loose....but more importantly, law enforcement does not want a judicial ruling that this type of police abuse is illegal.
When Eckert's attorney contacted the DA's office they immediately offered to settle.
I hope his attorney refuses to settle and the case goes to a jury trial. The "law enforcement" officers should suffer some consequences other than 'paid administrative leave'.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)This was a criminal assault.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)They got paid for what they did while knowing it was wrong and they should have known their actions pertaining to the warrants were illegal, for the county and time limits cited in the warrants.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)...due to carelessness or ignorance. What we have in this case is a deliberate criminal act....not carelessness or ignorance. The doctors at the first hospital, who refused to comply based on ethical standards, got it right.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)My point is these doctors paid by doing the procedures than if they refused on ethical standards.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)A crime which the hospital allowed to be committed on their premises. There's a hell of a lot of guilt and liability to go around. I can only assume the hospital sending the victim a bill is some sort of feeble attempt to absolve them of culpability...but it won't fly for a jury.
Additionally...IIRC liability insurance doesn't kick in if a crime is committed. So chances are the police, doctors, and hospital are going to pay out of pocket. I hope it financially ruins them.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Is there universal agreement that malpractice is limited to negligence?
Here's a sample definition found with one legal dictionary:
"An act or continuing conduct of a professional which does not meet the standard of professional competence and results in provable damages to his/her client or patient. Such an error or omission may be through negligence, ignorance (when the professional should have known), or intentional wrongdoing. ..."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/malpractice
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They need to lose their jobs permanently.
jsr
(7,712 posts)There was no legal authority for them to perform any of the procedures.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And they should be prosecuted, along with the cops, sheriffs, and DA who conspired and collaberated in the crime.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)sniff ass, but the human asses' don't seem to get it.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Did they recruit this guy from the jail staff
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)What ordinary person, out shopping, starts shoving things up their butt when they get pulled over? A corrections officer/jail cop probably thinks it's normal human behavior to do that. In their eyes we're all criminals.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)I fully expect more incidents to come out...don't ask why, just a gut reaction.
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)I believe they were doing this as well as on the side of the road Vaginal exams. Nothing says Freedom like the police probing your body cavities.
http://benswann.com/warrantless-vaginal-searches-conducted-by-texas-police/
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/04/why-the-supreme-court-thinks-strip-searches-are-constitutional/255648/
There are dangerous police officials who treat the populace as the enemy and want to stretch Supreme Court cases, such as the Florence case, beyond what the court held.
There are dangerous police officials who actually hate the general population. If you don't have one or more in your town at this point, you will.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)They said the victim clenched his buttocks and that gave them probable cause.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)But not in the first news article.
The 2nd news article mentions the dog, I assume because the lawsuit was then available as was additional info.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Looks like the cops in that case were determined to get this guy.
They stopped him Sept. 6 2012 for a cracked windsheild, impounded his car, found no drugs.
Then the Jan. 2013 stop, where they did all the medical procedures.
I get the feeling they had an agenda about this guy.
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)knightmaar
(748 posts)"And you thought Roswell was the anal probe capital!"
What? Too soon?
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)Remember the lady who had the cadaver dog and ruined quite a few cases by supplying fake bones? Just wondering.
I hope these two get those officers and doctors.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)When I was working in Drug Court in Fla. a popular lawyer was winning DUI cases on the issue of calibration of the then new breath analyzers. Seems they had to be calibrated and certified as accurate on a regular basis, but most weren't.
And, as the 2nd article pointed out, the K-9s have to be certified now.
given the long long long slime trail the local cops laid in these incidents, it would seem prudent to train every damn one of them, from teh Chief on down. Sure be cheaper than the lawsuits.
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)asking how lung ago the radar gun was calibrated . He too works in a lab, so we are VERY ardent about equipment calibrations (GLP is no joke).
I'd sure hope for the deparment's sake that the dog was certified. And they thru have dotted all their i's and crossed all their t's.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Turns out...dog was NOT certified in New Mexico....
his certification to be a drug dog expired in April 2011. K-9s need yearly re-certification courses, and Leo is falling behind.
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.UnvJPxhEr2T
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)This department looks inept and crooked.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Or weed in them thar cheeks, more like.
csziggy
(34,138 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)On how many more cases of this come out?
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Oh wait, that came out wrong..
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)The aliens have been apparently been affected by the sequester cuts too and can't beam as many people back up to the alien ship for anal probing so they're just doing it on the cheap now.
Out of all the unbelievable parts to that story I think the icing on the cake was that the hospital had the gall to charge him $6000
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Just curious.