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BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:20 PM Mar 2012

Let's review the facts, shall we?

According to Fox News host Eric Bolling, Sandra Fluke was part of an elaborate White House plan to distract voters from the economy.

In order to believe that, you would also have to believe all of this:

The Obama administration talked the GOP into holding hearings on contraception to "prove" that the administration's position was wrong.

When the hearings were scheduled, Obama and the Dems went looking for a woman to testify. They could have chosen some high-profile activist or celebrity to generate public interest in the hearings, but instead, they chose a college student that no one had ever heard of.

Somehow, the Dems talked the GOP into excluding their hand-chosen witness from the hearings ... and also convinced them to only allow religious men to testify.

Then the Dems decided to hold their own hearing to allow the unknown college student to be heard ... but convinced the GOP to ban the cameras which would have allowed the public to actually hear her.

After the transcripts were made public, the Dems called their good friend Rush Limbaugh and not only asked him to lie about what the college student said during her testimony, but to viciously trash the woman for three straight days! They also called all the GOP presidential candidates and asked them to respond in a weak, non-committal way if asked about the Rush's comments. Just for good measure (or perhaps because they didn't want their good buddy Rush to go out on a limb alone), the Dems decided to contact a sitcom actress with known right-wing views and asked her to join Rush in the lying and the trashing of the college student. Naturally, she was happy to do whatever she could to help the cause of liberal Dems.

When women exploded with outrage, the Dems AGAIN called their pal Rush and asked him to give several non-apology apologies and immediately follow them by repeating the lies about the college student's testimony and blaming every Dem in the country for HIS words.



Somehow, the only appropriate response seems to be this Seinfeld quote:
"That is one magic loogie!"


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Let's review the facts, shall we? (Original Post) BattyDem Mar 2012 OP
Just saw in another thread that Rush called Michelle Obama "fat" BattyDem Mar 2012 #1
Eric Bolling is turning out to be... RevStPatrick Mar 2012 #2
That scene always come to my mind when someone gives a ridiculous explanation for something, LOL! BattyDem Mar 2012 #3
That makes about as much as sense Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #4
I don't understand how any reasonably intelligent person ... BattyDem Mar 2012 #5
Do they watch Fox News? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #8
Of course ... and they listen to RW radio. BattyDem Mar 2012 #14
If they are open... bongbong Mar 2012 #17
I mentioned that a couple of years ago BattyDem Mar 2012 #20
Std reply bongbong Mar 2012 #23
Like you said ... they can't ever give specific examples. BattyDem Mar 2012 #26
It's almost like right-wingers are brainwashed- like cult members Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #18
It's creepy, isn't it? BattyDem Mar 2012 #21
And had her make up her friend with ovarian cysts jsmirman Mar 2012 #6
It's obvious that the RWers didn't even bother to read the transcripts. BattyDem Mar 2012 #11
No worry at all jsmirman Mar 2012 #12
Thanks for the correction. BattyDem Mar 2012 #15
Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back ...... and to the left! n/t VWolf Mar 2012 #7
A fellow "Critic" fan I see! Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2012 #19
"We're wrong. PROJECT!" Aerows Mar 2012 #9
The people in the party of "personal responsibility" are very quick to blame someone else ... BattyDem Mar 2012 #16
Pump the Three Stooges full of Owsley acid hifiguy Mar 2012 #10
Bolling is a cartoon Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #13
More likely ... GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #22
This thread rawks. Totally DUzy-worthy, Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #24
Thanks! BattyDem Mar 2012 #25

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
1. Just saw in another thread that Rush called Michelle Obama "fat"
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:26 PM
Mar 2012

I guess that's all part of the White House plan too!

 

RevStPatrick

(2,208 posts)
2. Eric Bolling is turning out to be...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:28 PM
Mar 2012

...one of the craziest of the crazies!

In other words... he has a long and lucrative career ahead of him at Fox.




As an aside... I recently watched the movie JFK.
Wayne Knight (Newman) was in the "magic bullet" scene in the movie.
I thought that was pretty cool...

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
3. That scene always come to my mind when someone gives a ridiculous explanation for something, LOL!
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:31 PM
Mar 2012


Thanks for posting the video!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
4. That makes about as much as sense
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:35 PM
Mar 2012

as their paranoid "birther" fantasies.

Republicans have become the party of extremists and fringe radicals and stand for power above all else, even if it means embracing insanity and destruction. The Democrats stand for fairness, civility, common sense, and sanity. America, the choice is yours............

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
5. I don't understand how any reasonably intelligent person ...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:41 PM
Mar 2012

could even THINK of taking their words seriously! It's easy to think it's only stupid, uneducated people falling for this nonsense ... yet I have a few RWers in my family and they believe all this crap! When it comes to every other aspect of their lives, they're sane, intelligent people ... but when it comes to anything political, they're completely unreasonable! You can't get through to them with facts and common sense. They just shut down and repeat RW talking points.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
8. Do they watch Fox News?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:18 PM
Mar 2012

That (and hate radio) might be a huge part of the problem. Fox News and hate radio have created a whole new dystopian "reality" that, if believed, would very easily convince you that President Obama and the Democratic Party and anybody progressive are made of pure unmitigated evil and must be vanquished to "save" the country. Yeah, crazy, I know..........

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
14. Of course ... and they listen to RW radio.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mar 2012

I know that's the problem. You know that's the problem. I've had no luck convincing them.

I no longer bother to try to get them to stop watching/listening to the RW media, but I have tried to get them to watch Ed Schultz once in a while. (I figured they would find it easier to relate to Ed instead of Maddow or Olbermann.) They won't watch because they believe "liberals" like Ed lie to support their agenda. As we all know, that's exactly what the RWers do. I explained that to them and offered to prove it by providing them with mainstream news links that refute the RW stories. Their response?
"You can't believe everything you read on the internet!"

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
17. If they are open...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:11 PM
Mar 2012

If they are open to persuasion, ask them if they think any news organization would go to court to argue that they could tell known lies and call them "news". When they say no, just tell them Fox News did just that, winning the case in Florida in 2003.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
20. I mentioned that a couple of years ago
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
Mar 2012

For a brief moment, it seemed like a breakthrough was happening ... and then the reply: "Oh well ... they all do that! Michael Moore and that guy you love (Keith Olbermann) lie and twist things, too!"

I didn't even bother to explain that Moore and Olbermann were not journalists. There was no point. When it comes to politics, they're locked into the typical RW mindset: "It doesn't matter what our side does because your side does it, too!"

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
23. Std reply
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 08:27 PM
Mar 2012

"They all do it" is the only thing repigs can say when oneof their idols is caught.

Ask them which "liberal" media outlet went to the lengths of going to court to "allow" lying.

Asking for specifics from a repig almost ALWAYS gets silence or insults as the answer.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
26. Like you said ... they can't ever give specific examples.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:32 PM
Mar 2012

They say things like, "Oh, I can't remember the names."

So I say, "Forget about the names. Just tell me the circumstances. I'm sure if I had a few details I can find it through Google."

Their reply: "I can't come up with something off the top of me head ... but they all do it!"

My reply: "Okay, that's fine. I understand that most people don't remember political details as well as I do ... but would you do me a favor? The next time you hear about Dems and/or liberals who have been lying to us, would you please send me an email with the details or a link if you have one? I don't want to be played for a fool. If someone's lying to me, I want to know!"

Still waiting on the email.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,436 posts)
18. It's almost like right-wingers are brainwashed- like cult members
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:14 PM
Mar 2012

it's eerie. The foundation of their beliefs seem unshakable. There is, I believe, a process by which people can "deprogram" cult members. Maybe we need to learn those techniques and use them on right-wingers?

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
21. It's creepy, isn't it?
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:28 PM
Mar 2012

You can discuss any other part of their lives and they're intelligent, reasonable people ... but mention politics and they become nuts! I've seen plenty of other posts on DU over the years about "politically crazy" relatives or friends. And it's always the right-wingers. You never see a post about someone's left-wing relative who refuses to acknowledge facts and reality. It's definitely cult-like behavior. Weird ... and sad.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
6. And had her make up her friend with ovarian cysts
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 04:42 PM
Mar 2012

and made up the story about the finals (by the way, Sandra is a law student, not a college student), etc.

Sandra is the President of the law school's Students for Reproductive Justice - she is a real person, with real friends, who is a real part of a very interesting struggle at Georgetown Law, which is an incredibly humane place, but which struggles with its Jesuit mandate - a mandate that leads to compassion and a wonderfully community-based attitude toward the Law Center, in general, but that provides a complicated legacy in matters such as birth control - despite the fact that both the student body and the faculty are well to the left, on average, of the political center.

The struggle between Students for Reproductive Justice and the Law Center has been going on since the founding of that group, and probably longer than that - meaning far longer than anyone even knew who Obama was.

This is absurd.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
11. It's obvious that the RWers didn't even bother to read the transcripts.
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:38 PM
Mar 2012

They don't know - or care - what she actually said. I'm sure Issa and the GOP knew her testimony was going to be about medical issues, which is why they wouldn't let her testify. It's much easier the dismiss the need for contraception if people think it's about recreational sex and not legitimate medical reasons ... although I believe that taking the pill to prevent pregnancy IS a legitimate medical reason, which is exactly why insurance should pay for it!

By the way ... I meant no disrespect to Ms. Fluke by referring to her as a college student. I know many universities call their law schools a "college of law" (for example, Syracuse University College of Law), so I always thought law school was simply a specialized college. In any case, I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. That was certainly not my intention.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
12. No worry at all
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:40 PM
Mar 2012

Goodness, no offense taken at all - just wanted to provide one correction for clarity.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. "We're wrong. PROJECT!"
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:22 PM
Mar 2012

That's their best defense, along with playing the victim if they come up short.

Excuse my french, but fuck 'em. Play with fire, get burned.

BattyDem

(11,075 posts)
16. The people in the party of "personal responsibility" are very quick to blame someone else ...
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 06:03 PM
Mar 2012

when they screw up!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. Pump the Three Stooges full of Owsley acid
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:36 PM
Mar 2012

and send them out with Hunter S. Thompson on a week-long whiskey/meth debauch and have the field notes transcribed by chimps with typewriters and together they couldn't manage to concoct something this lunatic.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
13. Bolling is a cartoon
Wed Mar 7, 2012, 05:46 PM
Mar 2012

Even though my head goes sideways from much of the stuff on Fox, I can at least follow the breadcrumbs back to the actual story.

This guy is a empty bobble-head who just repeats whatever the interns type for him to say - and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a daily contest on the happy-hour bill on who can get him to spew what made up nonsense they come up with.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
24. This thread rawks. Totally DUzy-worthy,
Thu Mar 8, 2012, 01:32 AM
Mar 2012

That is the funniest deconstruction of some righwing wingnut's comment I have seen here at the DU in quite some time.
I couldn't stop laughing at the absurdity that you so eloquently pointed out.

I give this thread 5 popcorns.







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