The authority to kill Americans without trial...

[surfdog]

Existed long before Pres. Obama or even George Bush police departments have the authority to kill suspects without a trial if they pose a danger

Can we be honest just for a second ? this did not start with Pres. Obama

The authority to keep a prisoner in 23 hour lockdown existed long before Pres. Obama or George Bush , prisons have been keeping inmates and 23 hour lockdown for years and years and years

The fake outrage we see when Bradley Manning was put in 23 hour lockdown is just that , completely fake , the lies posted here implying this practice started with Obama is completely absurd

What's wrong with the truth ? apparently some cannot handle the truth and need to attack our president with lies and slander

Can we be honest? just for a second

[TheWraith]

1. Exactly.

The reality is that any dangerous suspect who attempts to elude arrest is likely to end up dead. It's always been that way. Hell, they burned down the barn that John Wilkes Booth was hiding in. Was that "execution without a trial"? Due process begins with arrest and trial; if you're evading arrest you are by definition refusing to engage in due process. To say that anything that happens as a result of that is some kind of war crime is basically to say that you can never do anything to any suspect who refuses to peacefully turn himself in.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

2. Oh, well, that makes it OK. Slavery existed for a long time time, too.

War has been around for a long time and still is. So has leukemia.

[surfdog]

3. Yawn

[GeorgeGist]

4. Honesty sure ...

[surfdog]

7. Yeah honesty

You are calling BS , I double dare you to point out what is false in the OP

You claim the OP is BS

But you will never point out what you think is false , take a bow you prove my point very effectively

[surfdog]

8. Hey buddy

Democrats don't post lies in order to slander the president that is something Republicans do

Do you care to explain yourself ?

Do you care point out the BS that you're whining about ?

That's what I thought hit-and-run.

I guess the haters are going to hate no matter what the truth is

[boxman15]

5. I'm not a fan of the killing of Americans, but this is true.

This has been in place for a LONG time. The outrage now is kind of ridiculous.

The reason it worries me, though, is if a nutjob gets in the White House, there is a dangerous precedent for the killing of an American citizen deemed a threat. That can get scary. I'm not worried if Obama is in the White House, but a Gingrich White House? That could potentially get bad.

[gratuitous]

6. Who reviews these decisions?

Who makes the decisions? What danger was Anwar Al-Awlaki posing to you or anyone as he rode along in that car in Yemen? Or what danger was his 16-year-old son posing to you or anyone sitting in a garden a few weeks later?

I understand the cops killing someone who's barricaded inside a house, with hostages, who's shooting out through the broken windows. But even at that, there's a review process in place, so that when the cops shoot someone dead as he's walking out with his hands over his head, there's at least the possibility of disciplinary action for a trigger-happy response. None of those elements or safeguards, however, exist in the current "secret" authority that the Executive has arrogated to itself.

But if it comforts you that you're being "honest" in your equating apples to missiles, then good for you. I'm still having trouble trimming my ideals to fit this brave new fashion.

[msongs]

9. Obama can kill non-Americans without trial so what's the big deal? nt