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Eugene

(61,914 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:35 PM Oct 2013

Tunnel linking US and Mexico found

Source: BBC

31 October 2013 Last updated at 21:16 GMT

Tunnel linking US and Mexico found

A drug-smuggling tunnel equipped with electricity, ventilation and a rail system has been found connecting San Diego, California, and Tijuana, Mexico.

Authorities seized more than eight tons of marijuana and 325lb (147kg) of cocaine in the discovery.

Officials have not revealed the exact length or location of the recently finished tunnel, but Mexican media report it is near Tijuana's airport.

More than 75 such secret tunnels have been discovered since 2008.

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Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24760728


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Tunnel linking US and Mexico found (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2013 OP
Yup, what is local news doing on GD though? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #1
not necessarily a local story. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #3
Oh very much local nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #4
It's international news. pintobean Nov 2013 #23
I thought it a story Go Vols Nov 2013 #32
exactly. It is international sad-cafe Nov 2013 #37
A tunnel into the US from a foreign country? Matariki Nov 2013 #33
If I posted it nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #36
you do not get bullied sad-cafe Nov 2013 #39
BBC scooped East County Magazine? Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #9
Holy crap. They won an award for their coverage of wind turbines?... SidDithers Nov 2013 #17
To their credit, they dropped the 'causes cancer' nonsense and focused on the fire dangers Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #21
lol treestar Nov 2013 #22
Right. Because a a story about a drug tunnel between 2 countries... SidDithers Nov 2013 #15
How in the world is this local. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #28
What is hyper-local? maddezmom Nov 2013 #30
The invisible hand of the black market. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #2
Indeed nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #5
Huh! Just like in "Weeds". Cleita Oct 2013 #6
Not quite nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #8
"The Bridge" nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #7
Interesting - that's a big investment of time and money, and petronius Nov 2013 #10
Great questions, not sure I want to know the answers :( Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #11
That's chump change for a drug cartel Brother Buzz Nov 2013 #12
U.S.-Mexico drug-smuggling tunnel closed in California dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #13
Crazy story. zappaman Nov 2013 #14
Maybe they can hire those guys to build the California high-speed train. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #16
It's amazing that such a tunnel can be built without MineralMan Nov 2013 #18
Set up a fake company of, say, a gravel pit and road construction materials kentauros Nov 2013 #25
I suppose so. MineralMan Nov 2013 #27
I don't know what the terrain is like in the area of the tunnel, kentauros Nov 2013 #29
In the video clip at the linked article . . . markpkessinger Nov 2013 #34
Ah, that would explain it. MineralMan Nov 2013 #35
Legalize weed and put a stop to the export of money. Coyotl Nov 2013 #19
Eggs zactly. zappaman Nov 2013 #20
at least the cartels are providing jobs datasuspect Nov 2013 #24
On the positive side... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #26
!!! zappaman Nov 2013 #31
Can you imagine what they are going to have to do to get rid of the tunnel? davidpdx Nov 2013 #38
What they have done with the rest of them. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #40
You mean purposefully cave it in? davidpdx Nov 2013 #41
Yup, this is the tunnel of the month nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #42
Thanks for the sources davidpdx Nov 2013 #43
Oh you welcome nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #44
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. Yup, what is local news doing on GD though?
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:37 PM
Oct 2013

And i mean hyper-local? Oh wait, BBC picked on it. My bad.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
23. It's international news.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nov 2013

To claim anything else is ridiculous. It's nothing like a local traffic report.

 

sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
37. exactly. It is international
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:22 PM
Nov 2013

nothing like a fire/wreck on a specific freeway

I found the article fascinating.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
33. A tunnel into the US from a foreign country?
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:09 PM
Nov 2013

That's a bit more than a local story.

Curious, how does your being jaded affect your perception of this being local vs. of greater interest?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. If I posted it
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:54 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

From local sources, I will get bullied. It is the hypocrisy.

If this city falls into the pacific, this county burns (again) or a few other things, DU can look for it on CNN.

By the way, I am actually surprised it made it to the BBC. These tunnels are quite regular.

I should add, I still get bullied

So this emphasized the point even further. Bullies will find a new target. That's the way of the bully.

 

sad-cafe

(1,277 posts)
39. you do not get bullied
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 12:29 AM
Nov 2013

you have thin-skin when someone points out that you are incorrect on your posts.

Bullying is calling you names, wishing you to die in a variety of ways. That would NOT be tolerated on this site.

Bullying is not pointing out your mostly wrong commentary that you choose to deliver in an "I am better than you" attitude.

Brother Buzz

(36,448 posts)
9. BBC scooped East County Magazine?
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:17 AM
Nov 2013

Not one peep on the tunnel, yet the local online magazine had a story on road stripping and a strange one on ghost hunting titled: HAUNTINGS IN EL CAJON? PARANORMAL PROJECT TEAMS UP TO INVESTIGATE.

Oh, congrats on your San Diego Press Club "Excellence in Journalism Award". Second place TWO years in a row.

Intern Sierra Robinson, along with Nadin Abbott and Raftery teamed up to win second place for their series on wind issues: Supervisors blow off residents’ concerns over wind ordinance; Supervisors approve wind ordinance, blow off residents’ concerns, After turbulent hearing, Supervisors postpone action on wind ordinance; East County residents ask County’s top health official to revise report, recognize serious health impacts from wind turbines; and Valley Fever epidemic linked to desert solar construction, heightens concerns over risks from large-scale wind and solar projects

Brother Buzz

(36,448 posts)
21. To their credit, they dropped the 'causes cancer' nonsense and focused on the fire dangers
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:35 PM
Nov 2013

and never mind they had to scour the wires to find a story that fit their 'new and improved' dialog to highlights the hazards associated with fires caused by wind turbines.

DUAL DEATHS IN WIND TURBINE FIRE HIGHLIGHT HAZARDS

Could Vestas' fire-prone turbines be installed in East County?

By Miriam Raftery

October 31, 2013 (Netherlands) – Two young mechanics, ages 19 and 21, died when a fire broke out in a wind turbine where they were performing routine maintenance. The tragedy occurred at Deltawind’s Piet de Wit wind farm in the Netherlands, but highlights the hazards associated with fires caused by wind turbines.

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http://eastcountymagazine.org/node/14273

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
15. Right. Because a a story about a drug tunnel between 2 countries...
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:13 PM
Nov 2013

is almost exactly the same type of story as a traffic report.



Sid

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. How in the world is this local.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:12 PM
Nov 2013

A tunnel between Mexico and the US. Bringing in drugs that will be disbursed to people all over. Where do you think this is local to? Mexico? LA?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. Huh! Just like in "Weeds".
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:46 PM
Oct 2013

Does the tunnel also end up in a shop for maternity clothes?

Actually, that's been known for awhile.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
10. Interesting - that's a big investment of time and money, and
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:39 AM
Nov 2013

a lot of drugs to lose in one place. I wonder how long one of these has to operate in order to break even, and if this one turned out to be worth the investment.

I also wonder about the laborers who did the digging - once it's done, do they get to walk away knowing the secret?

Brother Buzz

(36,448 posts)
12. That's chump change for a drug cartel
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:32 AM
Nov 2013

Walk away? They have gainful employment for the foreseeable future digging a lot of tunnels. And never mind the rumors the workers are subjected to forced labor.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
13. U.S.-Mexico drug-smuggling tunnel closed in California
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 05:26 AM
Nov 2013

(Reuters) - U.S. authorities have shut down a secret underground tunnel equipped with electricity, ventilation and a rail system for smuggling drugs between a San Diego industrial park and Tijuana, Mexico, officials said on Thursday.

Border control and drug enforcement agents seized more than 17,000 pounds (7,700 kilograms) of marijuana and 325 pounds (147 kg) of cocaine from the tunnel, a rented warehouse where the passageway ended on the U.S. side and arrested three men arrested in a night raid on Wednesday.

The bust marked the first time cocaine has been found in connection with more than 75 cross-border smuggling tunnels that have been uncovered since 2008 along the Southwest border between the United States and Mexico, officials said.

Tunnels discovered earlier were used mainly for marijuana, which because of its bulk is harder to smuggle inside cars and trucks, said William Sherman, Drug Enforcement Administration special agent in charge in San Diego.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/uk-usa-drugs-tunnel-idUKBRE9A002G20131101

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
18. It's amazing that such a tunnel can be built without
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:17 PM
Nov 2013

anyone noticing the construction. There's earth, rock & debris that gets removed and taken somewhere to be dumped. That doesn't happen without some above-ground activity, I'd think.

I'm guessing that payoffs are being made for people "not to notice."

Always interesting, the black market is.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
25. Set up a fake company of, say, a gravel pit and road construction materials
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:07 PM
Nov 2013

on the Mexican side, and who would notice or care if there's a little more being excavated than possible for the size of the pit?

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
27. I suppose so.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:10 PM
Nov 2013

Still, with all of the concern about the border areas, you'd think people would get hinky about it.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
29. I don't know what the terrain is like in the area of the tunnel,
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nov 2013

and that would also factor into it. If the border patrol is looking well into Mexico territory in addition to right on the border, then they might have noticed. If not, there are any number of ways to get rid of bore material if they're imaginative.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
34. In the video clip at the linked article . . .
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:17 PM
Nov 2013

. . . it says that the tunnel links two warehouses. Depending on how big the warehouses are, there may have been a lot of room to store excavated earth, and then to have it carried away sowly enough so as not to attract attention.

MineralMan

(146,318 posts)
35. Ah, that would explain it.
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:19 PM
Nov 2013

They could haul the dirt out of the warehouse for dumping, too. Got it! Looking at the Google satellite view of the border area shows a bunch of warehouses on both sides, right up against the border. Easy peasy.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. Can you imagine what they are going to have to do to get rid of the tunnel?
Fri Nov 1, 2013, 11:50 PM
Nov 2013

Pump cement into it and fill it until it is solid.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
41. You mean purposefully cave it in?
Sat Nov 2, 2013, 01:34 AM
Nov 2013

This actually the first time I've heard about it, but the story mentioned others. The North Koreans tried to dig tunnels under the DMZ in the 60's and 70's. I've been down in one on the South Korean side.

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