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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:37 PM Oct 2013

Growing European Backlash Over Spying Threatens Billions Of Dollars In US Trade

BRUSSELS - The backlash in Europe over U.S. spying is threatening an agreement that generates tens of billions of dollars in trans-Atlantic business every year — and negotiations on another pact worth many times more.

A growing number of European officials are calling for the suspension of the "Safe Harbor" data-sharing agreement, which is vital to more than 4,200 American companies doing business in Europe, including Apple, Google, Facebook and Amazon.

Revelations of the extent of U.S. spying on its European allies is also threatening to undermine one of President Barack Obama's top trans-Atlantic goals: a sweeping free-trade agreement that would add an estimated $138 billion (100 billion euros) a year to each economy's gross domestic product.

Top EU officials say the trust needed for the negotiations has been shattered.

"For ambitious and complex negotiations to succeed, there needs to be trust among the negotiating partners," EU Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding said Wednesday in a speech at Yale University.

At the very least, the Europeans are expected to demand that the U.S. significantly strengthen its privacy laws to give consumers much more control over how companies use their personal data — and extend those rights to European citizens, maybe even giving them the right to sue American companies in U.S. courts.

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http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/the-canadian-press/131030/growing-european-backlash-over-spying-threatens-billions-dol

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Growing European Backlash Over Spying Threatens Billions Of Dollars In US Trade (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2013 OP
what's our trade balance with EU? Oh yeah. that's right. They need the U.S. market Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #1
That's what I was thinking Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #2
Short term hurt. Long term gain to many of our rivials. Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #3
Now free trade is a good thing? Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #4
I was never for Free trade. The invisble hand of the Free market will be Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #5
Exactly. I'll be happy is the EU-US "free trade" agreement falls through Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #6
Even better if they dissolve NATO FarCenter Oct 2013 #7
 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
1. what's our trade balance with EU? Oh yeah. that's right. They need the U.S. market
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:39 PM
Oct 2013

that is a load of bullshit. We consistently run a trade deficit with EU countries.

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0003.html

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. That's what I was thinking
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

We import more from them than they import from us. Any new agreement would exacerbate that deficit.

So while it is true that certain US companies would be hurt of there is no agreement, many EU companies would be hurt as well.

It doesn't work one way.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
3. Short term hurt. Long term gain to many of our rivials.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:44 PM
Oct 2013

This is going to get real bad.

Takes twenty years to build a reputation. Five mins to wreck it. We just had our five minutes.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
5. I was never for Free trade. The invisble hand of the Free market will be
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

at work here. Oh the irony

I simply have zero sympathy for the tech companies. They should have fought the spying when they had the chance.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
6. Exactly. I'll be happy is the EU-US "free trade" agreement falls through
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:57 PM
Oct 2013

If this surveillance issue speeds that along, so be it.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
7. Even better if they dissolve NATO
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013

Bring the US armed forces home. WW II is over. The Cold War is over.

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