No more Jelly Bellies for me........

[marmar]

.......and I LOVE those things. But continuing to buy them is a tacit endorsement of discrimination.


Et tu, Jelly Belly?

The chairman of America's lovable jelly bean brand apparently has helped fund efforts to repeal trans-friendly legal protections in California.

In September, Herman G. Rowland Sr., the chairman of the board of Jelly Belly Candy Company, Inc., donated $5,000 to Privacy for All Students, a coalition fighting for a referendum effort to repeal transgender rights legislation California Assembly Bill 1266.

The bill, signed into law by California Gov. Jerry Brown in August, requires the state's transgender students to be allowed to "participate in sex-segregated school programs and activities, including athletic teams and competitions, and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records." ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/jelly-belly-anti-transgender-herman-rowland_n_4176093.html?ncid=txtlnkushpmg00000037&ir=Politics

[leftyohiolib]

1. this is the part that bothers people

The bill, signed into law by California Gov. Jerry Brown in August, requires the state's transgender students to be allowed to "participate in sex-segregated school programs and activities, including athletic teams and competitions,and use facilities consistent with his or her gender identity, irrespective of the gender listed on the pupil’s records." ......(more)

[kcr]

2. Oh well n/t

[joeybee12]

3. So? nt

[HappyMe]

6. Well, that's just too damn bad.

[Egalitarian Thug]

8. Here is what they pretend bothers them to cover up their personality flaws.

I don't know in what world these assholes live in, but in my world I leave a shit all by myself with no company or help required. Furthermore, not once in my entire life has anybody of any gender ever forced their way into my stall while I was using it.

[marmar]

9. I know. It's ridiculous. ...... In Europe, there are gender neutral bathrooms in dept stores.....

...... and it's a total non-issue.

[Egalitarian Thug]

11. Unisex bathrooms are why you cannot be equal to me!

Urinals are all that stand between us and a complete cultural meltdown, thanks to you uppity women.

These people

[Katashi_itto]

12. My Urinal is My Castle.

You'll pry my urinal from my cold empty bladder, by god!

Dear god that sounds so wrong....

[Capt. Obvious]

15. The Bathroom Defense

Gay Panic is so passe'

[seveneyes]

21. How's that work if a school gets all male bodies on a womens sports team?

In a sport like basketball it could give quite an edge to the more physical team.

[antigone382]

38. The reality is that there is already overlap in size, strength, and ability between genders.

Complete fairness in terms of innate physical ability is not truly possible in any case. Striving to achieve this illusory goal at the cost of denying full participation to marginalized individuals is a far greater unfairness. It is highly unlikely that there will be sufficient transgender students interested in a particular sport at a particular high school to have much of an effect, but even in the few outlier cases where it might it does not outweigh the injustice done to transgender students by continuing to relegate them to second-class status and/or denying their gender identity.

Besides, the point of any sports game is not to win or lose, but to play with full dedication and integrity. If rules of fair play are followed, and if all hearts and minds are in the game, the influence of bodies that may or may not be gender typical on the outcome of the game is irrelevant.

[tenderfoot]

22. Boo hoo.

Get over it.

[bravenak]

26. What would they suggest?

Forcing a transgendered young lady to use the urinals?
Gross.
If a girl wants to use the ladies room, and a boy wants to use the men's room it's okay with me.
Even if that girl still happens to have a penis I have nothing to fear. Girls use stalls any way, and there are a couple of stalls in the men's room too. They won't have to look if they don't want to.

Change is scary for rigid minded folks.

[Mika]

4. Jelly Belly is nothing more than corn syrup w/ artificial color & flavor.

[Brother Buzz]

10. So, why does Jelly Belly operate a non-union facility in Thailand?

Jelly Belly Candy Co. opened a factory in Thailand in 2007.

Sugar makes up about half of the ingredients and cost of a typical jelly bean, said Bob Simpson, Jelly Belly’s president and chief operating officer. Thailand is the world’s fourth-largest sugar producer and gives Jelly Belly access to cheaper sugar, labor and other raw materials than the candy maker has in the U.S.

[Mika]

25. OK, Maybe a tad of sugar. But, here ...

http://www.jellybelly-uk.com/faq/content/?id=13

[Brother Buzz]

29. Sugar is listed as the first ingredient so there's more then just a tad

Glucose Syrup? It's listed second. Best I can figure, Glucose Syrup is HFCS with an accent.

Jelly Belly headquarters is down the road from me and I learned to dislike the family owned business back when they were HUGE supporters of Reagan. Reagan repaid their support by introducing Jelly Bellies to the White House.

[Ohio Joe]

5. You know...

I really hate it when I find things (especially edible things) are made by people who hate... I also used to really enjoy chick-fil-a... Fuck 'em though, shit bags don't get my money.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Well, it is a good thing you are getting the news

From huff

I just refuse to post any here.



Suffice to say it is not precisely new

[Brother Buzz]

13. 4 out of 5 dentists recommend sugary Huffington Post

over the East County Magazine's high-fructose corn syrup stuff.

[BuddhaGirl]

23. that's just rude

and unnecessary.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. pointing out that this effort

Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Is not new us not rude. I shan't post why i know this anymore.

Have an excellent day

[sad-cafe]

31. This is also rude

if you have information to share-share it. If not, don't say anything.

It is like a kid saying "I have a secret, but you can't hear it" or "I know something you don't know"

That to me is bullying.

[hrmjustin]

32. She does not feel comfortable posting here because some people swarm her posts to harp on her.

When I say posting I mean OPs.

[sad-cafe]

33. I understand that. I don't understand making snarky replies in the vein of I could have told you th

but I'm not going to.

Say it or don't . I don't care which way but I do get tired of the condescending snark

[hrmjustin]

34. Put her on ignore. Then you won't have to hear her.

[sad-cafe]

35. your answer is to protect the person committing the crime and telling the victim to ignor?

nope doesn't work for me!

[hrmjustin]

37. Crime? What crime is she commiting here? You think your a victim? How are you a victim?

[sad-cafe]

39. analogy my dear

crime: Act, Action, problem, issue ...what ever the word you would like to use


victim: innocent, casual observer, what ever the world you would like to use.

[hrmjustin]

40. Why do you dislike her so much?

[sad-cafe]

41. I dont' dislike her at all

I do dislike the thin-skin on display. The condescending "I'm better than you" attitude.

I believe she posts info she truly feels important. If that were all, I would join in real discussions.

[hrmjustin]

42. I think her posts are fine.

[sad-cafe]

43. I kind of observed that

as you follow them all and question anyone who question her

[hrmjustin]

44. No I question the way some people respond. If you have policy questions then you never see me say

anything. When people have nasty responses( And I am not saying the person I responded to was nasty at all) I sometimes say something. If I responded to every response to Nadin that is nasty I would have a higher count.

I don't like how she is treated here.

[sad-cafe]

45. all she would have to do to change how she is treated here is to stop acting like a know it all

stop making all posters feel "inferior" to her and admit she may not always have all the facts.

it is that simple.

[hrmjustin]

46. I don't see her that way. When I talk to her she talks to me, she does not talk down to me.

I think if you got to know her you would find she is an interesting person.

[sad-cafe]

47. sorry, any interaction has been the way I described.

tried to over look it at the beginning. Now I just point it out.

She is NOT being bullied, she is being called out on her attitude and until that changes, I am afraid this is how it will ever be.

Have a pleasant evening. I have to be up in 7 hours.

[hrmjustin]

48. Good night and rest well.

We will have to just disagree.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Oh and Marmar there is more that has not broke national

that is just as important. But again. I will not post here any of that anymore. If (when) my County burns, get it from CNN. If we have a major quake, again, get it from CNN. If we get stories of national important out of my state, go to Huff.

[HappyMe]

17. Sounds good to me.

[Heidi]

18. Oh, good grief.

You seriously think anyone here is dependent on you for San Diego news of national/international importance? Nadin, I implore you to rethink this, as it's the sort of arrogance that results in you being dog piled on DU.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Nope I don't think so, at all, whatsoever,

others (The bullies and cyberstalkers that operate with impunity on this site) believe that and have targeted me for ten + years for a character assassination and bully campaign. You have missed the point by a wide margin.

There are other points to be made, but suffice it to say, this is officially sanctioned policy.

There is excellent research on this by the way. When bullies attack the way they have, they live in their own fantasy world. I highly recommend the google.

It gets to the point that one gets tired of the shit and moves serious analysis off site. That point was reached. When I am even attacked on MY PROFESSIONAL achievements, there is a problem.

To sum up, somehow I became a threat to them, which is a characteristic to bully behavior, whether we are talking of "queen bees" in school, or adult cyberstalking and bullying. It is a characteristic, one chief characteristic.

[sad-cafe]

30. spot on

but I think it went over 5'

[Heidi]

16. Kick!

[William769]

19. I share your pain.

But I will do whats right.

[AndyA]

27. I love Jelly Bellies too, but quit eating them a year or so ago

I read an article about some of the things in them to give them color or texture or whatever, and I just thought it was gross. Glad I did now, because I sure would stop eating them after reading this.

[xchrom]

28. du rec.

[lonestarnot]

36. I never liked those things.