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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:02 AM Oct 2013

Breathtaking Roman sculpture of eagle devouring a serpent is plucked from the London earth.



Hidden since the Romans ruled Britain, this extraordinary sculpture was perfectly preserved for 1,900 years beneath a busy street.

The carvings on the 26in high eagle are so crisp that when archaeologists unearthed it last month they feared it was a much later copy rather than an original Roman relic.

But experts at the Museum of London Archaeology confirmed that the sculpture from a high-ranking official’s tomb dates from the 1st or 2nd century AD, and is one of only two statues of its type in the world. The other was found in Jordan in 1937.

Archaeologists also unearthed foundations of a mausoleum on the east London site and believe that the statue, dating from the first or second century AD and made from oolitic limestone from the Cotswolds, once adorned it.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2478904/Roman-sculpture-eagle-devouring-serpent-unearthed-London.html#ixzz2jDZG99Lk
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Breathtaking Roman sculpture of eagle devouring a serpent is plucked from the London earth. (Original Post) dipsydoodle Oct 2013 OP
Not a very smart bird snooper2 Oct 2013 #1
I was going to say the same thing madokie Oct 2013 #5
Birds almost universally swallow small fish head first Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #10
It's just picking it up - it's not eating it yet muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #16
Viva Quetzacoatl! (Roman Style) Berlum Oct 2013 #2
I guess Mexico/artists-symbol-designers were observers of nature (like the Romans) UTUSN Oct 2013 #4
their salute is a tad disturbing, looks very familiar leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #8
Very familiar indeed. Mariana Oct 2013 #13
Close, but not exactly nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #9
As I said, observing nature. n/t UTUSN Oct 2013 #11
Very impressive. Paladin Oct 2013 #3
On exhibition at the Museum of London for the next 6 months muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #15
Thanks. (nt) Paladin Oct 2013 #17
That's evry well-preserved...a great find... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #6
I love stuff like this Ron Obvious Oct 2013 #7
Roman version of Don't Tread on Me GreatCaesarsGhost Oct 2013 #12
Du rec xchrom Oct 2013 #14

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. I was going to say the same thing
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:51 AM
Oct 2013

most everything starts at the tail end when eating another animal but with snakes most start at the head.
I guess to show it as a snake they have to carve it this way otherwise it might be construed to be a long tongue.

I used to have a snake eating cat who seemed to love 'em. It would take it several hours to devour a 12 - 14 inch snake and then go back for more. Providing it had found a nest of them that is. The cat always seemed to win.

Brother Buzz

(36,434 posts)
10. Birds almost universally swallow small fish head first
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:59 PM
Oct 2013

I'm told it's because of the scales. Snakes have scales, too.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
16. It's just picking it up - it's not eating it yet
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:44 PM
Oct 2013

It doesn't have it either by the head or tail. You can see more of the body between the eagle's legs.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
4. I guess Mexico/artists-symbol-designers were observers of nature (like the Romans)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:44 AM
Oct 2013

And/or "new" countries adopt formulae that worked from the past for legitimizing themselves.



The distinctive gesture was instituted as a salute by Zog I of Albania. It was first widely used by Zog's personal police force and was later adopted by the Royal Albanian Army. Leo Freundlich, when confronted by the traditional Nazi greeting "Heil Hitler", would sarcastically respond with a "Heil Zogu" salute. The confusion which this created amongst German diplomats, who believed it to be a standard Albanian greeting, greatly amused him. In Latin America, especially in Mexico, a gesture similar to the Zogist salute is used by civilians to salute the national flag.

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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Close, but not exactly
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:54 PM
Oct 2013

That salute, used to be a tad to the side, 10 degrees or so, is used when taking oaths. They are called protesta, and are akin to the oaths taken by US officials to defend and protect the Constitution.

As a child of the holocaust you can imagine how many Jeevy heavies I got over it.

The photo of the President with his hand at an angle over the heart is the flag salute.

Fun fact, it is also used by troops when not wearing cover to salute superiors.

Oh and forgot that eagle eating the serpent symbolizes Quetzalcoatl marking the spot for founding Tenochtitlan, an eagle eating a serpent on cactus, it is pre-Hispanic myth. It is present in one of the few surviving codices.

A coincidence, yes.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
15. On exhibition at the Museum of London for the next 6 months
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:42 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not sure what will happen to it after that.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
7. I love stuff like this
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:09 PM
Oct 2013

I can stare at this sort of thing for hours and wonder about the sculpter, what his life was like, what his dreams, fears and ambitions were. Ancient history isn't as ancient as we think and sometimes we need a reminder.

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