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Miranda4peace

(225 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:46 AM Oct 2013

Here's the result of a WTO ruling that America lost and Antiqua won.

Antigua's New Website Will Offer the World America's Copyrighted Content for Free

The country filed a dispute with the World Trade Organization on the grounds that the US had violated international free trade, and it won. As compensation, the WTO offered Antigua the right to suspend US copyright agreements on all forms of media, up to a value of $21 million a year.

"The remedy is expressly provided for under WTO law and, contrary to what the United States has publicly stated, will not constitute “piracy” or theft of intellectual property rights," the government of and Barbuda said in a press release back in January. "Rather, it will be a lawful suspension of intellectual property rights, conforming to the judgment of the relevant WTO tribunal."

After 10 years of failed diplomacy and legal wrangling, the offer was finalized in January. Now, the resulting media portal is inching closer to its debut. The government of Antigua announced in a statement last week that a committee is finalizing a bill to launch the media hub and it's looking for partners to help operate the platform, Network World first reported. Per the statement:



Although its proceedings are confidential, the Committee is said to be recommending the establishment by the Government of Antigua & Barbuda of a statutory body to own, manage and operate the ultimate platform to be created for the monetisation or other exploitation of the suspension of American intellectual property rights authorised earlier this year by the WTO.

It is understood that the necessary domestic legislation to implement the remedies is in the final stages of preparation for submission to Parliament. Additionally, an announcement regarding the opening of tenders for private sector participation in the operating of the platform should be announced shortly.

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/antigua-is-pirating-copyrighted-content-for-the-world


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Here's the result of a WTO ruling that America lost and Antiqua won. (Original Post) Miranda4peace Oct 2013 OP
US doesn't agree, but WTO says "US you're wrong on this one"! Miranda4peace Oct 2013 #1
Interesting gopiscrap Oct 2013 #2
The true Pirate Bay. Downwinder Oct 2013 #3
I'd just say Antigua should probably think this through. Chan790 Oct 2013 #4
That is a traffic map, not a submarine cable map FarCenter Oct 2013 #5
It doesn't have to be a website. Legally they could sell our media in hard format to any country in Miranda4peace Oct 2013 #6

Miranda4peace

(225 posts)
1. US doesn't agree, but WTO says "US you're wrong on this one"!
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:52 AM
Oct 2013
In response, the US has gone typically ballistic, threatening all sorts of consequences and blaming Antigua for the problems:

The United States warned Antigua and Barbuda on Monday not to retaliate against U.S. restrictions on Internet gambling by suspending American copyrights or patents, a move it said would authorize the "theft" of intellectual property like movies and music.

"The United States has urged Antigua to consider solutions that would benefit its broader economy. However, Antigua has repeatedly stymied these negotiations with certain unrealistic demands," said Nkenge Harmon, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Trade Representative's office.

Of course, what the US claims isn't supported by, well, anyone else. The WTO has now officially signed off (yet again) on the plan. Apparently the 2007 permission was merely "preliminary," but now it's official. The WTO says this is a perfectly legitimate way for Antigua to hit back at the US for its flagrant violation of international trade agreements in trying to shut down Antigua based online gambling sites.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130129/11040821818/us-still-warning-antigua-that-it-better-not-set-up-piracy-hub-even-as-wto-gives-approval.shtml
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
4. I'd just say Antigua should probably think this through.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:43 AM
Oct 2013

Their internet backbone, their connection to the world, runs from there to the rest of the world, through servers in the US South. Don't be surprised if the US retaliates, because it can legally, by severing that backbone...rendering Antigua internet-less (and possibly telephone-less) until they relent. We're under no obligation to provide them access to the internet through government or private-owned servers within the US.

It's kind of hard to see on the map below but it's a loop running through the Caribbean from Miami to Mobile with no tendrils running anywhere except the US. That's their connections to the rest of the world on the internet. It's a closed loop connected to the US on both ends...unless they're going to spend 30x their yearly GDP to run a cable to Venezuela, they're are at the connectivity whims of the US.

Miranda4peace

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6. It doesn't have to be a website. Legally they could sell our media in hard format to any country in
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:59 AM
Oct 2013

the world, at the lowest possible price. Since they have that right, any pressure from the U.S. would be criminal.

Running a cable to Venezuela wouldn't cost Antigua all that much anyway, you're assuming one of our less cooperative allies, like China, Russia, most of South America, Iran, Saudi Arabia wouldn't help them with the costs or fund it altogether out of spite.

I'm not sure we can just cut them off, after all they won't be violating any laws. If we cut them off, following the ruling which the WTO found in their favor, the global view of us would drop even farther(how much lower can it go before its gone altogether?). Most people know we didn't block their gambling sites because we don't want our citizens gambling, but instead simply wanted to protect domestic gambling businesses(protectionism).

We will see what happens I guess.

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