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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:30 AM Oct 2013

Phyllis Schlafly Has Had It With People Thinking Statue Of Liberty Welcomes Immigrants

Wanker of the Month

Phyllis Schlafly, the Queen Mum of rightwing hate, is getting pretty tired of the poor and the huddled masses yearning to breathe free. So yesterday, she tossed a tempest; in a radio commentary, she insisted that the Statue of Liberty actually “has nothing whatsoever to do with immigration.” Schlafly also dismissed Emma Lazarus’ poem “The New Colossus” as some disgraceful graffiti that actually ruined the monument. In her version of the statue’s history,

“people who had nothing to do with this great gift from the French were allowed to paste a plague on the base of the statue with a quotation that has misrepresented the statue as an invitation to open immigration.”


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No surprise, though. This is, after all, a woman who has argued that the Bible’s injunction to show compassion to strangers in a strange land only applies to visitors, not those scummy immigrants, who Jesus would presumably have deported.
Oh, and compare, please, Schlafly’s pinched, “I got mine, you stay out” meanness with the hopes of FDR, in the middle of the Great Depression:

....

We’re pretty sure of this much: in the 19th century, there were a hell of a lot of peasants who risked pretty much everything to get to America so they could be free from people exactly like Phyllis Schlafly, who is just about as un-American as it’s possible to get.

Read more at http://wonkette.com/532893/phyllis-schlafly-has-had-it-with-people-thinking-statue-of-liberty-welcomes-immigrants#83Mmfz7qycykCvHp.99
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Phyllis Schlafly Has Had It With People Thinking Statue Of Liberty Welcomes Immigrants (Original Post) phantom power Oct 2013 OP
She's still alive? progressoid Oct 2013 #1
Was she ever? Orrex Oct 2013 #4
Nah...but she still won't shut up /nt demwing Oct 2013 #5
Well, in that zombie way that those crazy ladies have tavalon Oct 2013 #7
my first thought, too. nt valerief Oct 2013 #19
Just what I was going to post. pangaia Oct 2013 #20
That was my reaction too nt LiberalElite Oct 2013 #38
I think she should be HappyMe Oct 2013 #2
Wonder how she felt about her father who was an Skidmore Oct 2013 #3
it always boils down to "I got mine" with conservatives phantom power Oct 2013 #6
Yeah really Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #16
Greed or Hate ... tough to decide which is the guiding principle for the Right. SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2013 #22
Fire and Ice Chellee Oct 2013 #34
Great-grandfather actually alp227 Oct 2013 #14
He was white NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #26
She's probably right. After all, she was there when the statute was built. n/t LeftinOH Oct 2013 #8
If the Statue of Liberty was a Republican, she'd be getting primaried from the right. JBoy Oct 2013 #9
DUzy!ol Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #10
the original purpose was acknowledgment of USA inspiring the French revolution jon10 Oct 2013 #11
One quote from Whoopdedoo Oct 2013 #30
She's just mostly wrong.... Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #36
Hmmm... and what are her roots? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #12
time for her fuck off and... well, you know. cali Oct 2013 #13
Native Americans have had it with white people whining about immigrants nt alp227 Oct 2013 #15
She was ranting about "globalists" and UN treaties last November. pampango Oct 2013 #17
Err, Emma Lazarus wrote the poem to help build it in the first place. Xithras Oct 2013 #18
BTW, Syphilis Schlafly is not related to Schlafly beer. see below alfredo Oct 2013 #21
In an alternative universe... mwooldri Oct 2013 #23
I wouldn't cry if she got grabbed by a Weeping Angel... KatyaR Oct 2013 #33
re:Phyllis Schlafly Has Had It With People Thinking Statue Of Liberty Welcomes Immigrants allan01 Oct 2013 #24
Now I figured out where Satan Cheeeeeney got his new heart from. SoapBox Oct 2013 #25
All I have to say is.... AlbertCat Oct 2013 #27
A plague? bravenak Oct 2013 #28
Years ago, the Miami Herald ran a cartoon on their OP-ED page A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #29
Ya, well people have had it listening to her. arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #31
How poetic felix_numinous Oct 2013 #32
At least she is correct about some of us. No one welcomed our Native American side and the jwirr Oct 2013 #35
Schlafly....I'm trying to determine if that surname is Navajo, Apache, or Iroquois. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #37
Next thing you know, this moronic piece of work will be claiming that.... AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #39

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
7. Well, in that zombie way that those crazy ladies have
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 11:14 AM
Oct 2013

Like Ann Coultergeist. Same except much older.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
16. Yeah really
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:23 PM
Oct 2013

My right wing father is too much. He is the offspring of two "off the boat" immigrants that sailed right by that statue as they entered the US, grew up but a mile from the outer border of a huge city. Retired and wealthy now in the rural west, he is the biggest uber nationalist flag-waving chickenhawk and he acts like he's John Wayne and Daniel Boone rolled into one. He does NOT see the irony.

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
22. Greed or Hate ... tough to decide which is the guiding principle for the Right.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Oct 2013

I think it is:

1. Greed
1a. Hate

and the rest are only props to be used when supporting a position of 1 and 1a (you know, props like that Constitution thingy or that Bible thingy or States' Rights or whatever). They are so overshadowed by greed and hate that they don't even make the list.

Chellee

(2,097 posts)
34. Fire and Ice
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:12 PM
Oct 2013

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.


Robert Frost

 

jon10

(46 posts)
11. the original purpose was acknowledgment of USA inspiring the French revolution
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:10 PM
Oct 2013

That's why France gave it to us. it was placed on the pedestal, pointed toward France. it was titled 'Liberty Lights the World'

whatever one thinks of her tone and motivations in writing this, she's not necessarily wrong in citing it's orgins

Whoopdedoo

(60 posts)
30. One quote from
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

A very detailed investigation by the National Park Service investigation to rumors about the monument:
"The conventional interpretation of the statue as a monument to American immigrants is a twentieth-century phenomenon. In its early years (1871-1886), that view was only rarely and vaguely expressed, while references to the Civil War and abolition of slavery occur repeatedly from its first introduction to the United States in 1871 up to and including the dedication celebrations in 1886. Immigrants did not actually see the Statue of Liberty in large numbers until after its unveiling. In the early twentieth century, the statue became a popular symbol for nativists and white supremacists. Official use of the statue's image to appeal to immigrants only began in earnest with public efforts to Americanize immigrant children and the government’s advertising campaign for World War I bonds. The "immigrant" interpretation gained momentum in the 1930s as Americans prepared for war with Hitler and by the 1950s, it had become the predominant understanding of the statue's original purpose and meaning."
http://www.nps.gov/stli/historyculture/black-statue-of-liberty.htm
Here is an interesting read on the history of the Monument. I include it because it include pictures and obscure or little known tid bits. It does have some errors in fact but still worthy:
http://www.neatorama.com/2007/05/31/the-true-story-of-the-statue-of-liberty/#!niP4L

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
36. She's just mostly wrong....
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:32 PM
Oct 2013

"The New Colossus" was written in 1883 (before the statue was erected, as part of a fundraising campaign to finance construction of the pedestal. The poem was written specifically for the State of Liberty and so it would be a stretch to claim that it was added on later.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
17. She was ranting about "globalists" and UN treaties last November.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013
The globalists have been plotting to use the volatility of this lame-duck session to achieve some of their internationalist goals that they couldn't get passed during the last four years. In particular, they would like to lock us into treaties that slice out various parts of our national sovereignty, a concept that they have been trying to promote as obsolete. ... The globalists could make a surprise treaty push for ratification of the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty (UNATT). This treaty is coming under the radar since gun control advocates know it could never pass the U.S. Senate after debate in broad daylight.

Another plan to ratify an anti-sovereignty treaty and subject us to unwelcome global regulations is the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD)
. This mischievous document was signed for the U.S. by U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice (now famous for giving big TV time to Obama's lies about the Benghazi disaster).

The globalists desperately want us to ratify the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST), which was a bad idea when Ronald Reagan rejected it in 1981, and which has soured rather than ripened in its years of languishing in the Senate. This treaty cedes sovereign control over practically all the riches at the bottom of the world's oceans to an International Seabed Authority.

After ratification, treaties become part of the "supreme law" of the United States on a par with federal statutes, which gives supremacist judges the power to invent their own interpretations. The whole concept of putting the United States in the noose of global organizations, in which the U.S. has only the same one vote as Cuba, is offensive to Americans, and all these UN treaties should be scrapped forthwith.

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2012/11/06/schlafly-beware-of-the-lame-duck-session/

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
18. Err, Emma Lazarus wrote the poem to help build it in the first place.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:36 PM
Oct 2013

American "fiscal conservatives" refused to allow any taxpayer dollars to be spent to finance the American portion of the statue construction project. American "liberals" like Emma Lazarus stepped up to support fundraising efforts and get it built. "The New Collossus", the sonnet that the quote at the base was sourced from, was originally written by Lazarus specifically so that it could be sold at an auction, with all of the proceeds going to fund its construction. Lazarus did far more to support that statue than Schlafly's ideological forebears did.

Besides, Mrs. Fundynut should ponder the fact that she's worried about "misrepresenting" and defending the intent of a 100 foot tall pagan goddess standing watch over one of the most liberal cities in America (and not a minor one either...Libertas had her own temple on the Aventine Hill in Rome). I wonder what her own angry conservative god would think about that.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
21. BTW, Syphilis Schlafly is not related to Schlafly beer. see below
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:51 PM
Oct 2013

From their FAQ:

Does Phyllis or Andrew Schlafly have anything to do with the brewery?
Phyllis Schlafly is Tom Schlafly’s aunt by marriage. She is the widow of Fred Schlafly, Tom’s father’s brother. Andrew Schlafly is Phyllis’ son and Tom’s cousin. Neither Phyllis, nor Andrew Schlafly is involved with Schlafly Beer in any way.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
23. In an alternative universe...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:06 PM
Oct 2013

The Statue of Liberty wants to ... eat you?



Maybe Schlafly lives in that universe?

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
33. I wouldn't cry if she got grabbed by a Weeping Angel...
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 06:25 PM
Oct 2013

Maybe it would throw her back on one of those immigrant ships and let her see what it was like....



(I ran out of angry smilies....)

allan01

(1,950 posts)
24. re:Phyllis Schlafly Has Had It With People Thinking Statue Of Liberty Welcomes Immigrants
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:14 PM
Oct 2013

New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
line six talks about Immigrants.
lines 10 and 11 talk about Immigrants, wonder what plannet that person is living on?

http://www.howtallisthestatueofliberty.org/what-is-the-quote-on-the-statue-of-liberty/
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
28. A plague?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:41 PM
Oct 2013

How can one paste a plague?

Maybe a plaque.

But I'm sure she meant plague. A plague of immigrants.

I thought 'that woman' was dead already. Shows how much I know.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,368 posts)
29. Years ago, the Miami Herald ran a cartoon on their OP-ED page
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:42 PM
Oct 2013

This was in the 80's, when the frequency of Haitians trying to reach Miami while risking their lives in crappy boats was at a high point.

The cartoon showed the Statue of Liberty and under it the "Yearning to breath free" quote.

Under that it said "Hold the Haitians"

Schafly just wants that to read "Hold everyone I don't like".

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
32. How poetic
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

a woman who headed the STOP ERA movement and advised women instead to focus on being more attractive to men, for example meeting them at the door wearing only Saran Wrap.

Interpreting Lady Liberty as a 'hostess for guests' instead of a symbol of liberty-- that cannot exist without compassion---would actually describe the RW delusion at its core.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. At least she is correct about some of us. No one welcomed our Native American side and the
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:09 PM
Oct 2013

others came over in the 1850s - am I correct that the statue was not here yet?

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
37. Schlafly....I'm trying to determine if that surname is Navajo, Apache, or Iroquois.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:39 PM
Oct 2013

Does anyone know which non-immigrant tribe she hails from?

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
39. Next thing you know, this moronic piece of work will be claiming that....
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 08:44 PM
Oct 2013

America was founded as a whites-only nation or that the Founders were actually perfectly okay with the slavery system instead of being rather critical of it and wanting it to be eliminated(especially the Yankees & Paine, but even the Southerners weren't so gung-ho about it either).....hell, it wouldn't surprise me, at least; Teabagger revisionism knows almost no bounds when it comes to pure stupidity & outright bullshittery.

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