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By Yasmine Hafiz
This adorable little boy was on top of the world when he made friends with Pope Francis by wandering up onto the stage during the Pontiff's address to a crowd of families.
He hung out for a while, making sure that all was going well with his new buddy's speech.
Pope Francis was grateful for the help too.
Though some cardinals came to try to return him to his seat on the steps, he couldn't be parted from Papa Francesco, clinging to his robes in a tight hug.
The Vatican Instagram shared one of the cutest moments from the incident, when the little boy in yellow sat on the Pope's chair.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/pope-francis-boy--stage-yellow-_n_4175486.html
This is such a nice story that I wanted to share it. I love the photo of the little guy sitting on the Pope's chair, it's so cute.
Aristus
(66,369 posts)Pope Francis seems like a genuinely good guy.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I'm liking this Pope a lot myself.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Thanks for posting!!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)That's why I thought of sharing it. Goodness knows there's enough bad news to go around, but far too little of the good type.
madokie
(51,076 posts)I'm non religious but for those who are this pope shines for what I see religion as
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)with the Pope. I love that he was left to just kind of hang out where he wanted.
Julie
Beacool
(30,247 posts)but he wouldn't budge. Smart kid!!
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)because I have taken a rather cynical view of Catholic bishops as of late.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I was raised Catholic, but I have attended a Lutheran church for some years now. This is only the second Pope that I have liked in my lifetime (John Paul II was the other one).
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)but didn't like JP II because he appointed too many conservative cardinals, bishops and archbishops,
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Same thing.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Don't compare the Pope to that kook. Also, this is a positive post don't piss on it.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)to be pissed on.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)The Catholic Church does not approve of gay marriage. That doesn't mean that they hate gay people.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)enter into relationships, that gay people are acting against "natural law".
But you go ahead and defend this homophobic organization, keep it up, maybe you won't be around here much longer.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I have more gay friends that I can shake a stick at, but I don't expect the Catholic Church to approve of gay marriage or abortion. It's just not going to happen. You don't like the Catholic Church or the Pope? That's fine, now go crap on someone else's post.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I don't even attend a Catholic church, but I happen to like this Pope. If you don't like him that's your business, but don't attack others who think differently than you do.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)this pope believes, and the official RCC position is, that the only way a homosexual person can stay in good graces with their god is to remain celibate. If they choose instead to love someone, they are engaging in sin.
That's a pretty big item in my book, and neutralizes any platitudes or photo ops. To me, the kid sitting in the chair is no different than a flight suit and a "Mission Accomplished" banner. Meaningless PR designed to emotionally sway people.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)You either think homophobia isn't a thing, or have a convoluted definition that somehow excludes someone who, you know, actively campaigned against LGBT civil rights.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)mongers. Francis says adoption by gay parents is child abuse and our relationships are 'an attack on God'. You are cool with that and I am not. The differences between Francis and Robertson are that Robertson is not as rich and does not use a rosary.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He may have some good qualities, but that does not change the fact that he is indeed as bigot who has made some nasty bigotted comments in his role as a church leader.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)and then being elected by a universal gathering of his peers. More importantly, Pat Robertson wouldn't give a fuck about the poor, or starting a war for profit. I am not a Catholic nor a fan of the Roman Catholic church, but there is a fucking shit load of difference between this Pope and Robertson.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)they couldn't be further apart.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)He'd steal the poor infant's breath.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)plus check the child's pockets for change
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)1 - Baby does not have much of a choice. This kid actually came up and he allowed him to stay.
2 - Like someone else said, Pat Robertson = SAP(Self Appointed Prick), the Pope, his sect in Catholicism had to make him decline being pope a few times before he can accept.
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)But I know that's what you meant.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Same basic snake oil, nonetheless.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)other threads to take those kind of remarks. Children are instinctive. They go toward good energy and avoid bad. COnsider how babies and infants like Obama but not romney. that means something about this man that a little baby like this could come to love him like this. Enjoy the moment. It is sweet and gentle. THank you, OP.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)for 18 years and I found this to be a sublime moment and an indication of the personality of the man!
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)I suggested that the Pope was more popular. It would seem you are "preaching to the choir" so to speak. I'd need to see the data from the scientific research on children's instincts, to believe that part of you assertion, however.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)data from a teacher doesn't count for shit for some but this I know. Children and dogs know these kind of things.
.99center
(1,237 posts)Dogs were also fooled by their instincts.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Is fallacious to me. My experience thirty years with kids and over sixty years with dogs is pretty vast. Day in day out experience
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)xfundy
(5,105 posts)biting a child's head off?
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #8)
ChisolmTrailDem This message was self-deleted by its author.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)This Pope seems like a genuinely good man.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Christ's one commandment. Faster than i would have ever imagined a Roman Bishop in my lifetime. I am an Episcopalian. We bless same sex unions. We are basically catholic liturgically but quite protestant (in a very liberal way) theologically. This Bishop's words and actions are very intriguing to us because they signal a possible (I pray) a full communion of holy sacraments between our churches. To outsiders they may seem only words. But words from the Bishop of Rome are important and encouraging when they focus on social justice and turn the roman church's focus away from unChrist-like homophobia.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)that's moving his church forward to being more like the Episcopalian church? This guy, the one who said that those who advocate for same sex marriage are doing the work of the prince of lies, who says that same sex parenthood is child abuse. You think he will move the Church away from "unChrist-like" homophobia?
. . . but Jesus said, Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven. And he laid his hands on them and went away.
-- ESV, Matt 19.14-15 http://www.esvbible.org/Matthew+19%3A14/
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hugs to you and your furry friends.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Busy is good, though. Much better than having nothing to do.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Too cute!
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)...but kudos to this pope.
Beautiful pictures.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)OhioChick
(23,218 posts)Thanks for posting.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)With so many daily bad news, I thought that we needed a smile.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)It doesn't cover up the fact that the Catholic church is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.
I'll get a smile on my face when priests who diddle little boys start getting prosecuted for their crimes.
TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...reminds me of a certain Halloween costume I saw recently posted here at DU.
TYY
cali
(114,904 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I'll take wikipedia over you any day of the week and a hundred times on sunday.
there are citations and links, dear. It's hardly rocket science.
Yes, lots of priest have been prosecuted for child sexual abuse- unlike what YOU claim. Yes, more certainly should have been, but that's not the same as saying that they should *start* prosecuting them.
duh.
"do you know how to do basic research?" I'm working on my Master's degree in Biology. I know how to do advanced research. Our professors would laugh at us if we cited anything from Wikipedia (as they should).
Your wikipedia references mean nothing to me.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)How about cali?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)this guy does have a chance to start to right some of the wrongs. he stripped a cardinal in germany of position because of his "bling". he`s one of the few truly humble popes that does`t believe in the red shoes. will he be able to change the direction of the church? i do`t think he has the time but maybe he can change the course enough to start to join the 21st century.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)He hasn't done anything to change anything. He still sticks with the church's status quo.
The only difference between him and Ratz is that Francis has better PR. That's it.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It's rape or molestation. But diddling? God (no pun intended) I'm sick of that.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Francis is a good pope. He seems like a genuinely nice guy.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)He's, dare I say it, a good man of God.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)but had a feeling from day one that he might be alright considering his personal narrative.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)would you?
The "of God" part may be true if that god is a prick.
joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)FSogol
(45,485 posts)during a speech? My own son got on stage for an Edwards rally (2003?) and mugged for the cameras.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)This little thing brings me joy.
840high
(17,196 posts)dembotoz
(16,804 posts)the contrast between him and the rest of the church officials is striking
wonder when and how the blowback will begin
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)I have heard several pre Vatican II mindsets bitching and moaning about him.
NJCher
(35,670 posts)I have some union buddies who are Catholic by birth (they are not presently practicing Catholics) and every one of them (about five people) has a relative who is either a priest or a nun.
They tell me they think this pope will be "taken out."
They don't give him more than a few months.
Personally, I disagree, but then what do I know. I'm not a Catholic, never have been one, and don't even have a religion, per se. But that's what they say.
I hope not. I started liking the guy a few months ago when he got some old car from a buddy. The idea of a pope running around in a beater in his immaculate, pressed robes kind of amused me.
Cher
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Just like in the Godfather 3
That would be a mistake === this guy will be the best fund raiser they have had in decades.
The poor people will line up in droves to drop their nickels and dimes into the basket.
To pay the billions of outstanding abuse judgments, his predecessor's priests have racked up in the various courts of the USA
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)The Vatican is a pretty corrupt place.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Well the rumor is JP #1 was offed
And any cabal that tolerates and protects child sodomites is probably capable of anything.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)And that's just the popes.
Pope's had people killed, Pope's tortured people, Pope's waged war, Pope's hoarded wealth.... It's a fascinating and dark history. The Vatical, historically is a place filled with politics, death, schemes..etc.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)Their history is replete with scoundrels
For Example we have Pope Alexander VI
Pope of the Catholic Church from 11 August 1492 to his death in 1503
Of Alexander's many mistresses the one for whom passion lasted longest was a certain Vannozza (Giovanna) dei Cattani, born in 1442, and wife of three successive husbands. The connection began in 1470, and she bore him four children whom he openly acknowledged as his own: Giovanni, afterwards duke of Gandia (born 1474), Cesare (born 1476), Lucrezia (born 1480), and Goffredo or Giuffre (born 1481 or 1482). Three of his other children, Girolama, Isabella and Pedro-Luiz, were of uncertain parentage. However, his son Bernardo, a product of his liaison with Vittoria (Victoria) Sailór dei Venezia in 1469, is much less known because his father kept him in hiding, most likely due to shame, for he was a cardinal, who aspired to become the pope. He obviously gave up hiding his many children after he fathered four more. Therefore, Bernardo received the least amount of attention of his siblings. ( From Wiki)
Pope Stephen VI: had his predecessor exhumed, tried, de-fingered, and thrown to the river
Pope Sergius III: ordered the murder of another pope and started the "pornocracy"
This "pornocracy" was an age with women in power: Theodora, whom Liutprand characterized as a "shameless whore... [who] exercised power on the Roman citizenry like a man" and her daughter Marozia, the mother of Pope John XI (931935) and reputed to be the mistress of Sergius III.
It goes on and on
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Truth is often stranger then fiction
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Very nice and all. In case anyone needs a reminder:
The church still opposes family planning that includes contraceptives and abortifacients.
The church opposes same-sex marriage.
The church opposes gender equality in leadership within the church.
Are you a priest that supports same-sex marriage and gender equality? Pope Francis excommunicates you for it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html
"Melbourne priest Greg Reynolds has not only been defrocked, but also excommunicated by the Catholic Church over his support for women priests and homosexuals. The order came directly from Vatican under the authority of Pope Francis, who just recently said that the Church focuses too much on gays and abortion."
But yes, the kid is adorable.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)A few pictures of a little boy hugging the Pope surface online and suddenly the guy is Jesus and he's the best thing that happened since sliced bread.
Give me a break, people.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)contrast to the inquisitor that held office right before Francis.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Some have said he's the best Pope ever.
Why?
He's just as corrupt as the rest of them, but he doesn't outwardly show it as much as the previous popes.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)that Benny and also better than JP II
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)a kid is hugging him!
HE'S THE BEST!!!!!11111111111111111111ELEVENS
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)because he started his own church.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Source?
tblue
(16,350 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,756 posts)Let me know if he ever actually changes any policies... Then maybe I'll give a shit about him.
Rex
(65,616 posts)That would have never happened when Benny was in charge! They would have found the parents and kicked them out of the Vatican!
It is very strange seeing a humble Pope! I will have to get use to it!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)...and i`m a methodist.
JI7
(89,249 posts)That boy has a lot of confidence.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)As an aside, reminds me of how positively little ones react to our President.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)If kids are protected by magical knowledge of who is good and trustworthy, then why do so many children each day face harm from those thy trust?
Weak and scary sauce you serve.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)*---Note: Not all families need apply
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)As if we didn't already know.
Someday the Church may invite all families. Pope Francis might just be the first step in making that happen.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)and indeed has said that same sex parents are guilty of child abuse by "depriving" children of a mom and dad..
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)Just like Obama has to dismantle the attitudes behind for-profit healthcare first to give us single payer, the Pope has to change the attitude of the Church to lay the foundation for a more progressive and Christlike church.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)outside of better PR, he is just as bad as the previous two popes. There is no evidence he's a progressive at all, he is an Orthodox Catholic from everything I read about him.
Oh, and don't compare this Pope with our President, that is insulting to President Obama.
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)That this Pope is anything more than what he presents? You would have an argument if this Pope denounced his homophobic beliefs and previous activities in Argentina. Let me just say that you are welcome to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)Sure he's a homophobe, and he won't be doing any favors in that regard anytime soon.
However, I believe his philosophy to reduce judgementalism is eliminating a major obstacle for one of his successors to eventually bring all sorts of equality to the Church. Like I said, one step at a time.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Catholic Catechism and people laud him for it, saying its a "change" when in reality, all he did was reiterate established dogma.
I see a man who, at best, represents a possible change in tone, but certainly not in content, and Big Picture wise, it will amount to no significant changes, at least due to him.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)especially the little one sitting in the chair.
I love this pope...I was raised a catholic and excommunicated myself, as I believe in birth control and also could not stand the idea of confession.
But his pope amazes me....It almost makes me think he is Jesus...at least he does what I expect Jesus would do.
May Pope Francis have a long time being pope.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)But this guy is the best Bishop of Rome in my lifetime. When he allows we Anglicans full communion in his church the way we allow Roman catholics to reveive the holy sacrements in ours Ill be pleased even more.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)well maybe we'd get full communion before you anglicans. actually i known some methodists who could`t tell the difference between the two.
i have a feeling this guy is for real.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)meti57b
(3,584 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)So this story is a win-win! What a sweetie! I'm sort of warming to this pope guy.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)His name is Carlos, he's 6 years old and he was born in Colombia. An Italian family adopted him last year.
A couple of other pics.
rug
(82,333 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Which he is. I was in Buenos Aires in September, I talked to people and read articles written about him. The way he behaves now as Pope is the same way he behaved when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires. It's not an act, it's who he is and that's why I think the Conclave chose him. He's shaking up the Vatican and it's about time.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)And promoting the sexual oppression of women. But other than that, he's a super nice guy. And Jeff Dahmer was a great babysitter -- the kids loved him.
Every tyrant in history has posed with kids and animals. It's a fucking cliche. Because for some evolutionary reason it works, and otherwise rational adults assume that kids have some preternatural ability to sense hidden evil, and anyone who likes kids as much as we do ourselves must somehow be just like us.
If he REALLY liked kids he would be leading a crusade against his own church.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)A kid ran on stage up to him and Benny reacted pretty much the same way as Francis.
Francis has better PR skills though, I guess.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)LGBT rights, women, poverty, etc.
This pope is just repeating what has been in the Catechism for a long time. What he said about gays has been the official Churh position for years. Nothing new.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Priests are being investigated, he is not Benedict. To compare Dahmer with Pope Francis is outrageous and a very poor analogy.
Yes, the Catholic Church does not approve of women being ordained. I don't agree with it, one of several reasons why I attend a Lutheran church, but I respect their choice.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Francis wrote
"Lets not be naïve, were not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."
in regards to a bill being considered in Argentina for legalizing same sex marriage.
Of same sex couples adopting children, he called it "discrimination against children".
The idea that he's behaving as he did in Argentina is horrifying.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)and exacerbated human misery exponentially on the planet (ban on birth control, for example) is some sort of benevolent institution?
I do not. I call that evil.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Truth hurts.
rug
(82,333 posts)It also may be said that lies assuage a troubled mind.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)When he campaigned against both same sex adoption and same sex marriage?
And how the fuck does this make him a nice guy?
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)he is a fucking homophobe, don't defend his filth.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)It's that people are BUYING IT that gets under my skin.
Trust is earned. Deeds speak louder than words.
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)materially, that is my primary concern, which will then lead to misguided people funding anti-LGBT civil rights, anti-contraception and anti-choice laws and practices in places like Africa, etc.
goldent
(1,582 posts)Sounds kinda Tourette-like in this case.
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)And yes, it was really cute!
As for pope Francis, his message that day was a simple one. He said we need to focus on three things: Saying please, thank you and sorry ...
It was particularly almost tearful to me when the little boy came out of nowhere and jumped on the stage and kissed the cross around pope Francis' neck and then he went and sat in the pope's chair!
I really think that pope Francis is a good man and he seems to be well-liked.
Thanks for posting this story!
& recommend.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)But apparently some didn't like it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Someone will always be there to remind you of what is wrong with your OP.
Personally I LOVE seeing a humble Pope. Refreshing after Benny and his red shoes.
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)and start up bashing a pope that they know little if anything at all about.
And for you ... a and yes, thank you and I am sorry if you got your feelings hurt!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I'm a Hillary supporter and with some here the Clintons are as popular as the Pope. Any positive thread about them or the Pope gets crapped on the minute it's posted, you have to be tough or they trample you. LOL!!!
Thanks for the hug and right back at you.
CountAllVotes
(20,870 posts)n/t
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)Are you fucking kidding me?!? This Pope ACTIVELY CAMPAIGNED against the civil rights of LGBT people in Argentina, and we are supposed to forget about that, not to mention insulting same sex headed families. Oh, and the OP's feelings were hurt? I guess the feelings(and rights) of LGBT people just don't matter to a certain segment of people here.