My Exchange with a Teahadist (claims I'm in an alternate reality)

[Fantastic Anarchist]

First off, when I'm in an argument, I rarely go off and get down in the gutter. I like to argue with substance, but lately, I've just had enough of these fuckers. I'm "HeisenbergKnocking80".

[–]asroiguh7 -13 points 8 hours ago (1|14)
Free markets create wealth and prosperity for the ordinary person. The free market created the middle class. And the slow destruction of the free market is slowly destroying the middle class.

[–]HeisenbergKnocking80 [score hidden] 6 hours ago
The New Deal created the middle class. Ask your grands, go on.

[–]asroiguh7 [score hidden] 5 hours ago
I hope this is a bad joke. We had a middle class throughout the roaring twenties, and indeed far before then even.

[–]HeisenbergKnocking80 [score hidden] 4 hours ago
The roaring twenties? The Gilded age, where there were very few that were massively wealthy, and a very many that were massively poor. Sure, buddy.

[–]asroiguh7 [score hidden] 3 hours ago
Can't reason with someone who lives in an alternate reality. There was a substantial middle class during that time. If you disagree... Have a good one.

[–]HeisenbergKnocking80 [score hidden] 11 minutes ago
Ha, yeah. The rampant speculation, deregulation, and oppression of Labor that gave us that great moment in history in 1929. Yeah, that epic era that brought in what is called The Great Depression, punchy.
Agreed, you have an alternate reality. Now go suck Rand's cock. Not Rand Paul's, but Ayn's.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

1. For those that are interested ...

... it's in this Reddit thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1pgmal/ohio_governor_defies_gop_with_defense_of_social/cd25csu

[ret5hd]

2. Some say "speak truth to power"...

What takes REAL stamina is speaking "truth to ignorance".

[Fantastic Anarchist]

3. I'm stealing that.

So true, too.

[calimary]

9. No kidding!!!!

Great line, ret5hd!

"Some say 'speak truth to power'... what takes REAL stamina is speaking 'truth to ignorance'."

A keeper, for sure!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

13. Agree 100%.

[Mr Dixon]

19. Sweet

Going to have to steal this one

[BainsBane]

4. The Gilded Age was the late 19th century

Not the 20s.

I would argue that unions created the middle class.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

5. True. It was a brain fart.

But the policies were similar.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

6. And, I agree about the unions.

Especially the IWW.

[rurallib]

10. certainly the lack of unions today is a HUGE factor

in the hollowing out of the middle class and jobs being farmed out overseas

[Fantastic Anarchist]

12. And the few we do have now are collaborationists.

[TalkingDog]

17. Historically the middle class (generally) has existed since the mid-1700's> Bourgeoisie

And here's a .pdf discussion of the American middle class. Suggesting that America has always had a middle class in some form. (History. It's whats for supper!)

The emergence of the middle class - Library of Congress
catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/cam034/88032975.pdf?

The emergence of the middle class: social experience in the American city, 1760—1900. — (Interdisciplinary perspectives on modern history). 1. United States.


http://catdir.loc.gov/catdir/samples/cam034/88032975.pdf

[hootinholler]

7. The Child Labor Middle Class?

Wasn't that the roaring 20's and earlier?

[procon]

8. "The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer."

What middle class? Just as the old adage says, the wealthy few held a disproportion share of the wealth, and after decades of increasing income inequality the unstable economy finally crashed and gave us the Great Depression.

We never really had a successful middle class until the postwar boom brought new industries and new methods of production that led to prosperity for working class Americans.

It didn't last. The investment class has been busily chipping away at infrastructure that supports middle class prosperity ever since.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

11. Exactly. It took ...

... 30 to 40 years, but they finally got their puppet.

And now, we're living that "dream" again.

[jmowreader]

14. Ayn Rand had a cock?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

15. I don't think I really want to know if she does.

It's moot anyway since she's dead.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

16. If she did, she didn't share it with anyone.

[TalkingDog]

18. Touche!

n/t

[Fantastic Anarchist]

20. And we should all be thankful. ;)