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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:06 PM Oct 2013

US Congress Held Hearing for Family of Grandma Killed by Drone--Only 5 SHOWED UP!!

(This is Shameful! Praise to Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Rep. Alan Grayson, Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) and Rep. Rick Nolan (D-Minn.)
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Congressional No-Show at 'Heart-Breaking' Drone Survivor Hearing
In "historic" briefing, Rehman family gives heartbreaking account of drone killing of 65-year-old grandmother... to five lawmakers


Despite being heralded as the first time in history that U.S. lawmakers would hear directly from the survivors of a U.S. drone strike, only five elected officials chose to attend the congressional briefing that took place Tuesday.

Pakistani schoolteacher Rafiq ur Rehman and his two children—9 year-old daughter Nabila and 13 year-old son Zubair—came to Washington, DC to give their account of a U.S. drone attack that killed Rafiq's mother, Momina Bibi, and injured the two children in the remote tribal region of North Waziristan last October.

According to journalist Anjali Kamat, who was present and tweeting live during the hearing, the only lawmakers to attend the briefing organized by Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), were Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.), Rep. Rush Holt (D-NJ) and Rep. Rick Nolan (D-Minn.).


IBefore the handful of reporters and scant lawmakers, however, Rafiq and his children gave dramatic testimony which reportedly caused the translator to break down into tears.

In her testimony, Nabila shared that she was picking okra with her grandmother when the U.S. missile struck and both children described how they used to play outside but are now too afraid.

"I no longer love blue skies. In fact, I now prefer grey skies. Drones don't fly when sky is grey," said Zubair, whose leg was injured by shrapnel during the strike.

“My grandmother was nobody’s enemy," he added.

"Nobody has ever told me why my mother was targeted that day," Rafiq wrote in an open letter to President Barack Obama last week. "The media reported that the attack was on a car, but there is no road alongside my mother's house. Several reported the attack was on a house. But the missiles hit a nearby field, not a house. All reported that five militants were killed. Only one person was killed – a 65-year-old grandmother of nine."


"But the United States and its citizens probably do not know this," Rafiq continued. "No one ever asked us who was killed or injured that day. Not the United States or my own government. Nobody has come to investigate nor has anyone been held accountable."

He concluded, "Quite simply, nobody seems to care."

The purpose of the briefing, Grayson told the Guardian, is "simply to get people to start to think through the implications of killing hundreds of people ordered by the president, or worse, unelected and unidentifiable bureaucrats within the Department of Defense without any declaration of war."

The family was joined by their legal representative Jennifer Gibson of the UK human rights organization Reprieve. Their Islamabad-based lawyer, Shahzad Akbar, was also supposed to be present but was denied a visa by the US authorities—"a recurring problem," according to Reprieve, "since he began representing civilian victims of drone strikes in 2011."

"The onus is now on President Obama and his Administration to bring this war out of the shadows and to give answers," said Gibson.

VIDEOS of HEARING HERE:

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2013/10/29-3

You can watch a recording of the briefing below and here:

http://unmanned.warcosts.com/briefing

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US Congress Held Hearing for Family of Grandma Killed by Drone--Only 5 SHOWED UP!! (Original Post) KoKo Oct 2013 OP
Is there a reboot switch located somewhere in Congress? Rex Oct 2013 #1
Indeed, JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #3
apparently the American people don't care enough to write letters to congress DEMANDING Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #11
LOL! Rex Oct 2013 #12
yes. I shed a tear for your heartlessness. Why weren't YOU there in the gallery? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13
Aww look at you all madz and sadz at the same time! Rex Oct 2013 #17
I'm just proving you don't have a serious bone in your body Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21
Of course you are. Rex Oct 2013 #24
you've actually stalked me even more than Bluenorthwest and morningfog Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #28
Really? Now making up things out of whole cloth? Rex Oct 2013 #32
no I think we can leave it at that Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #34
Oh please do! I want to watch you go into full meltdown mode! Rex Oct 2013 #37
Rex, you are being kind of a creep. Pyrzqxgl Oct 2013 #39
And you just showed up at random to tell me that. Rex Oct 2013 #40
where did you learn to "reason"? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #18
He is trying for a repeat of his stay on DU2 imo. Rex Oct 2013 #19
how many phone calls and letters were you responsible for demanding your congressperson Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #22
Do I need to tell the motherfucker what color tie to wear too? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #35
I expect..... zabet Oct 2013 #65
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #70
Why do we have to demand? If they don't have the decency to go on their own, Ace Acme Oct 2013 #74
Well the republicans tried turning it off and back on hootinholler Oct 2013 #44
There is a reboot switch. It's called a primary challenge. Ace Acme Oct 2013 #72
They DO NOT CARE about civilian lives lost due to OUR bombing of THEIR country. bvar22 Oct 2013 #2
Lockheed Martin and Halliburton were having a gala cocktail party with canapes to die for Fumesucker Oct 2013 #5
It does speak volumes, doesn't it? 1000words Oct 2013 #6
Of course we are arrogant... ReRe Oct 2013 #46
We're Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #51
Yeah Trailrider1951 Oct 2013 #57
Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. Shame. Scuba Oct 2013 #4
+1000! arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #73
We are an arrogant country MuseRider Oct 2013 #7
So many things to say, but why bother... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #8
Hey at least it was 5 Democrats, AKA the 'party aiming' ... brett_jv Oct 2013 #55
Yep. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #59
:( :::::::::::::::::::::::::: WillyT Oct 2013 #9
Four of the very best. KamaAina Oct 2013 #10
REALLY??!!! Throw those mothafuckas under the bus, then! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #15
No, they're not. KamaAina Oct 2013 #20
When you try that hard, you just look silly. SaveOurDemocracy Oct 2013 #27
I would say desperate, not silly. Rex Oct 2013 #33
My general annoyance has given way to pity. 1000words Oct 2013 #36
Pity Rex Oct 2013 #38
So let's guess what your point is. That we shouldnt be upset that the corporatist (centrists) rhett o rick Oct 2013 #64
So whats the fuss? History shows that everyone was on board to kill those rag headed Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #14
Of course. Why would cowards such as our Congress face reality? Taverner Oct 2013 #16
Time for Americans to clean house! polichick Oct 2013 #23
let's open up a big can of "cliche" while we're at it Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #25
Here's a cliche for you: Fuck off :) polichick Oct 2013 #29
There is a reason cliches are so widely used. bvar22 Oct 2013 #49
Thank you - kind of you to say! polichick Oct 2013 #52
+1000000 woo me with science Oct 2013 #60
I could understand if they stayed away in shame. QuestForSense Oct 2013 #26
shameful, as per the usual. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #30
Sad and shameful. eom SaveOurDemocracy Oct 2013 #31
What a sad story. BTW your title should say 'briefing' not 'hearing' as they are different things. PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #41
Republicans And Tea Baggers - Heartless And Cruel cantbeserious Oct 2013 #42
Jesus Christ, seriously? gopiscrap Oct 2013 #43
Ho-hum, why should we care when our terraistic-type actions kill innocent people? Don't they know indepat Oct 2013 #45
Very little coverage in major media as well. pa28 Oct 2013 #47
Reckon we need to find Newt and tell him.... ReRe Oct 2013 #48
Here's Link that should Work for the Hearing: KoKo Oct 2013 #53
Thanks, Sweetness. ;-) ReRe Oct 2013 #56
Disrespectful of human life. Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #50
K&R NealK Oct 2013 #54
Five Democrats. Not a single Republican. ProSense Oct 2013 #58
utterly shameful.... mike_c Oct 2013 #61
. adirondacker Oct 2013 #62
Kicked and recommended to highlight "Congressional Courage." Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #63
kick woo me with science Oct 2013 #66
I propose we kill the drone program - TBF Oct 2013 #67
I would like to see those issuing the kill command to show up and look these people in the eye. harun Oct 2013 #68
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. QuestForSense Oct 2013 #79
^ Wilms Oct 2013 #69
transcript of Robin Young's Here&Now show about the hearing Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #71
If the US Congress Held a Hearing to investigate the spending of $10 us tax dollars to save a life Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #75
Think we'd mind if it were us? DeSwiss Oct 2013 #76
where were the rest of the Democratic s riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #77
The entire Congress never attends a karynnj Oct 2013 #78
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. Is there a reboot switch located somewhere in Congress?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:09 PM
Oct 2013

I mean seriously, if they don't want to do their jobs I am sure a long line of other applicants are more than willing to take their place.

A few Ds show up, because that is all we have left of our democracy.

The message here of course is that almost all of them don't care.

And I smell their approval rating at around 9%. I think mold has a better approval rating.

Shameful and pathetic.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
11. apparently the American people don't care enough to write letters to congress DEMANDING
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:39 PM
Oct 2013

they show up to these kinds of hearings. sounds like you need to blame yourself for the no-shows.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
13. yes. I shed a tear for your heartlessness. Why weren't YOU there in the gallery?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:43 PM
Oct 2013

taking in every syllable of these heart-rending stories? Placing your physical self in solidarity with those who suffer at the hands of the great American killing machine rampaging throughout the earth?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. Aww look at you all madz and sadz at the same time!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:45 PM
Oct 2013

I LOVE it when I rub people like you the wrong way...it tells me I am doing something right!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. Of course you are.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:50 PM
Oct 2013

Kewl story bro! Keep talking you are really doing a great job at embarrassing yourself...I would say again, but I don't pay that much attention to people like you.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
28. you've actually stalked me even more than Bluenorthwest and morningfog
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:52 PM
Oct 2013

so yours is not really an accurate statement.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
32. Really? Now making up things out of whole cloth?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:53 PM
Oct 2013

My my you certainly are desperate for attention! Please do continue...you have not embarrassed yourself quite enough for my tastes.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
34. no I think we can leave it at that
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Oct 2013

maybe when I have a couple of extra minutes I can search my previous threads and point out how many times you show up in them.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
40. And you just showed up at random to tell me that.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:03 PM
Oct 2013

The other guy is of course being nice and sweet...nice try. NEXT.


EDIT - oh and welcome back to DU! Gone 7 years and one of your five posts (after 7 years) is to me! I am so honored...don't stay a stranger now!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
18. where did you learn to "reason"?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:46 PM
Oct 2013

You're not very good at it. But you do seem to have a knack for sticking up for some of the worst pieces of shit on the planet.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
22. how many phone calls and letters were you responsible for demanding your congressperson
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:49 PM
Oct 2013

attend these hearings?

<cricket><cricket>

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
35. Do I need to tell the motherfucker what color tie to wear too?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:55 PM
Oct 2013

Have you ever heard of doing your job as a responsible adult? Irrespective of your life experience, that's what's expected of me, and that's what I require of my elected representatives.

zabet

(6,793 posts)
65. I expect.....
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:27 AM
Oct 2013

These PAID employees of the citizens of the US to actually do the job they get paid handsomely for. It appears we need to cut their pay to minimum wage, make them no longer exempt from ACA, and enact term limits. The vast majority have 'gotten too big for their britches'.

I know than ANY job I have ever had.....I would have been fired from if I acted like a congressperson.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
74. Why do we have to demand? If they don't have the decency to go on their own,
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not going to ask them to do the right thing.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
44. Well the republicans tried turning it off and back on
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:35 PM
Oct 2013

That didn't work, the pentagon had a battery backup.

 

Ace Acme

(1,464 posts)
72. There is a reboot switch. It's called a primary challenge.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:28 PM
Oct 2013

Congress is our most accessible democratic institution. We can meet our congressional reps, talk with them, and we can vote them out every two years if we want.

We could have a revolution every two years in this country if we wanted. But as a country we've been hypnotized into a state of cynicism and despair.





bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. They DO NOT CARE about civilian lives lost due to OUR bombing of THEIR country.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:19 PM
Oct 2013

USA!....USA!....USA!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. Lockheed Martin and Halliburton were having a gala cocktail party with canapes to die for
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:23 PM
Oct 2013

Everyone who is anyone was there to grin and grab.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
46. Of course we are arrogant...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:42 PM
Oct 2013

and condescending to the collateral beings. We're Exceptional, don't cha know.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
7. We are an arrogant country
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:32 PM
Oct 2013

with no sense of shame.

I am ashamed, it looks like others are as well.

Maybe the lawmakers who have better things to do with their time should have let people who do care inside to show this family that we are not all without decency.

I am again embarrassed and angry at how callous and uncaring our elected officials are. None of them are really about us so how can anyone who is harmed by us in another country expect even a cursory apology? Disgusting.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
8. So many things to say, but why bother...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

Our level of concern is determined by which party is aiming and pulling the trigger.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
55. Hey at least it was 5 Democrats, AKA the 'party aiming' ...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:15 PM
Oct 2013

Still pretty weak turnout, but at least there's that. Kudos to these 5 for doing the right thing despite of party affiliation.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. Four of the very best.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:38 PM
Oct 2013

Don't know that much about Nolan.

But no Keith Ellison? Raul Grijalva? Barbara Lee?

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
15. REALLY??!!! Throw those mothafuckas under the bus, then!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

they are part of the evil cabal wolfing down canapes served by Lockheed Martin, obviously!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
20. No, they're not.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:47 PM
Oct 2013

All the more reason they and others (any of Silicon Valley's trio of Lofgren, Honda and Eshoo would have been nice ) should've been there.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
64. So let's guess what your point is. That we shouldnt be upset that the corporatist (centrists)
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 12:05 AM
Oct 2013

are screwing us. They may well be "wolfing down canapes".

I find it interesting that instead of dealing with the discussion head on, you choose to make absurd statements. Why dont your centrist (corporists) care about this?

It's my opinion that conservatives have no empathy. Your centrist friends are conservatives and have no empathy. They dont give a crap if an old grandmother is killed with 10 million dollars of taxpayer paid for missile hardware. It's just part of the fun.

I am curious, how do you feel about this travesty?

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
14. So whats the fuss? History shows that everyone was on board to kill those rag headed
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:44 PM
Oct 2013

sand niggers, starting with Gulf war 1 through present. Why would they show up?



 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
16. Of course. Why would cowards such as our Congress face reality?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:45 PM
Oct 2013

And I mean ALL of congress

The DINO DiFi, Kerry the hypocrite...

The fact that recently the hawks in our party wanted a sequel to Iraq in Syria is just more reason to conclude WE are the evil empire

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
49. There is a reason cliches are so widely used.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:39 PM
Oct 2013

Some are perfect, and more appropriate than anything else.
Yours is a very good example of that category.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
26. I could understand if they stayed away in shame.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

But you know they just don't give a damn, they don't care. Shame on THEM.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
45. Ho-hum, why should we care when our terraistic-type actions kill innocent people? Don't they know
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:37 PM
Oct 2013

we don't want to be bothered with such piffles. After all, there's an exciting football game to be watched.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
47. Very little coverage in major media as well.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:47 PM
Oct 2013

If president Obama agreed to meet the family I believe he would advance the cause of accountability in our drone program.

However, not meeting the family is also a policy statement.

"Business as usual".

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
48. Reckon we need to find Newt and tell him....
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:09 PM
Oct 2013

.... head up there and teach the Congressmen some work ethic?
The last two sessions have been the most do-nothing Congresses I've even seen in my long life. If they were worked to death by doing good, we might give them a break. Five showed up, and all Democrats. Wonder where the rest (around 195) of the Democrats were? Did the MIC throw a big can't-miss party? Hope this shows up on the overnight on C-Span.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
50. Disrespectful of human life.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 07:41 PM
Oct 2013

Hard Core no shows.

Can't stand up and face the reality they help cause.

Cowards.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
67. I propose we kill the drone program -
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 07:37 AM
Oct 2013

and pay for health care instead. You know, helping folks out instead of killing them.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
71. transcript of Robin Young's Here&Now show about the hearing
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 01:58 PM
Oct 2013
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/10/29/pakistani-drone-victims

Noticeably absent was anyone in the broadcast raking congress over the coals for not attending this hearing.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
75. If the US Congress Held a Hearing to investigate the spending of $10 us tax dollars to save a life
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:38 PM
Oct 2013

All 231 Republicans would have shown up to impeach the President.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
78. The entire Congress never attends a
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:22 PM
Oct 2013

hearing - and I don't think this was a hearing of a standing committee because the Republicans chair the committees in the House.

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