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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:56 PM Oct 2013

Teacher Suspended for ‘Racist’ Rant Against ‘Ghetto’ Trick-or-Treaters

http://www.mediaite.com/online/teacher-suspended-for-racist-rant-against-ghetto-trick-or-treaters/



The teacher followed up that post with another message, clarifying that he “welcomes people who come from dangerous neighborhoods to mine, so their children can safely trick or treat.” However, he warned, bad behavior will not be tolerated.

‘Your [sic] are a CRIMINAL and are not welcome in my neighborhood and you should not be welcome in your own!” he wrote. “THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE COME TO MINE TO TRICK OR TREAT. Do not treat my neighborhood like you do your own. I HAVE THE RIGHT NOT TO BE LIKE YOU.”
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Teacher Suspended for ‘Racist’ Rant Against ‘Ghetto’ Trick-or-Treaters (Original Post) RockaFowler Oct 2013 OP
Wow. His "aplogy" or clarification or whatever it was is almost as bad as what he first said gollygee Oct 2013 #1
Uh, pissing on a telephone pole Aerows Oct 2013 #2
Yeah but he uses this an excuse to rant about all black people and use the N word gollygee Oct 2013 #3
Peeing on someone's property Aerows Oct 2013 #5
You are completely, and apparently intentionally, missing the point gollygee Oct 2013 #6
I guess I missed the point Aerows Oct 2013 #8
If you think it's OK to complain about all black people and use the N word gollygee Oct 2013 #9
I didn't see the usage of the N-word Aerows Oct 2013 #11
What did you THINK the BLACKED-OUT WORDS were FOR??? DevonRex Oct 2013 #28
I fucked up Aerows Oct 2013 #29
The nicest thing I've ever seen. DevonRex Oct 2013 #32
When I'm wrong Aerows Oct 2013 #35
No, it's not acceptable behavior, but what does race have to do with it? antigone382 Oct 2013 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Oct 2013 #10
Self-delte antigone382 Oct 2013 #16
My apologies. Aerows Oct 2013 #21
No worries...I self deleted anyway. n/t antigone382 Oct 2013 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Oct 2013 #50
it was his use of terms like "Nigger" and "Ghetto" which offended people's JI7 Oct 2013 #18
I didn't see that until I clicked on the link Aerows Oct 2013 #20
I want pics 'cause I don't believe it happened. ret5hd Oct 2013 #39
You *honestly* don't believe Aerows Oct 2013 #43
Did that *really* happen, though? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #40
No, in the South Aerows Oct 2013 #44
Pissing on someone's front lawn in broad view Aerows Oct 2013 #4
It's not about sympathy for the guy who pissed on the telephone pole. antigone382 Oct 2013 #12
My white neighbor Aerows Oct 2013 #15
Sure, it can be pretty gross to watch, especially close to a house. antigone382 Oct 2013 #19
That's why you should have a bb gun or wrist rocket. FSogol Oct 2013 #38
I tried peeing in the bushes once. The bushes were too close, it didn't work out well. nt bluestate10 Oct 2013 #41
You're right! People who's dogs piss on fire hydrants should be arrested! Orrex Oct 2013 #13
I didn't see where he used the N-Word Aerows Oct 2013 #14
There are any number of reasons why pissing on someone's lawn is, and should be, illegal . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #23
You are right Aerows Oct 2013 #24
Mouse pee carries hantavirus. politicat Oct 2013 #56
I'm really having trouble believing you are this dense. jeff47 Oct 2013 #26
I explained myself several times in the thread Aerows Oct 2013 #27
It didn't take clicking on the link to understand he was talking about all black men. jeff47 Oct 2013 #30
Well, if apologizing and explaining isn't enough Aerows Oct 2013 #31
I make it a point to piss only on Republican lawns. Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #55
LOL Thank you for the levity :D Aerows Feb 2014 #57
:) Katashi_itto Feb 2014 #58
no need to be rude demwing Oct 2013 #33
Except they didn't. jeff47 Oct 2013 #34
So what DO you want? demwing Oct 2013 #36
Understanding that magic words are not what makes someone racist. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #45
and you thought you would fix everything demwing Oct 2013 #46
Nope. Just tired of them doing similar things to other posters. jeff47 Oct 2013 #47
Post after post? demwing Oct 2013 #49
Based on that teacher's other words, I'm not inclined to Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #37
Certainly could put him up for HappyMe Oct 2013 #17
Not only racist get the red out Oct 2013 #25
i've had a few parents from the ghetto drinking 40s on the street outside but it didn't bother me. dionysus Oct 2013 #42
just curious... demwing Oct 2013 #48
well, they weren't from my neighborhood, they were obviously very poor, and there's three dionysus Oct 2013 #52
he should be suspended gopiscrap Oct 2013 #51
He is pretty stupid for a teacher Marrah_G Oct 2013 #53
Gated mentality. Baitball Blogger Oct 2013 #54

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
1. Wow. His "aplogy" or clarification or whatever it was is almost as bad as what he first said
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:03 PM
Oct 2013

This is white privilege. If a white teenager pees on a telephone pole, the problem is that specific white teenager. But if an African American teenager pees on a telephone pole, it is viewed as an indication of the behavior of all African Americans.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. Uh, pissing on a telephone pole
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

right out in front of someone's house is going to get a reaction, red yellow black or white.

If that offends someone's racial sensibilities, so be it. Whipping out your junk and peeing in open view of people is going to cause problems, which is why there are public indecency laws. Not to mention it's a health hazard.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
3. Yeah but he uses this an excuse to rant about all black people and use the N word
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:08 PM
Oct 2013

White people pee on things too. If a white person did it he'd complain about that specific white person. He wouldn't rant about how poorly white people behave as a group. But when a person of color does it, people rant about the whole group.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. You are completely, and apparently intentionally, missing the point
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:11 PM
Oct 2013

Of course it isn't acceptable behavior. BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE HIS RACIST RANT. And the reason why it turned into a rant about all black people instead of a rant about one teenager is racism.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
8. I guess I missed the point
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

where someone pissed on his lawn and he got upset about it because he exposed himself, peed all over the place and caused a potential health hazard.

I guess I'm just racist against bacteria when human beings run around peeing where they shouldn't be peeing and exposing themselves.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. If you think it's OK to complain about all black people and use the N word
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:17 PM
Oct 2013

because one peed on your yard, then you are racist against black people, not bacteria.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. I didn't see the usage of the N-word
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

If that took place, then he IS a nasty bigot. I guess I need to click on the link before responding.

ETA: I see where he used that. No wonder he got suspended, and it was justified.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
28. What did you THINK the BLACKED-OUT WORDS were FOR???
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

Secondly, I don't see any proof anything like that occurred. Who did it? When and where? Or is this a Zimmerman thing? He just thought he saw a kid from the ghetto when it was a black kid from down the street wearing a hoodie. And what he thought was a penis was a can of Arizona Iced Tea being poured out?

Next thing you know this asshole teacher is on the 'net with a racist rant, words all blacked out, and people actually believe black kids from the ghetto just LOVE to go to white neighborhoods and pull out their penises in front of sweet little white kids and piss on your lawn. But you just couldn't IMAGINE what those blacked-out words were.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
35. When I'm wrong
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:20 PM
Oct 2013

I admit it, and I was wrong, so I'm sorry . I let my own experiences with people peeing in public cloud my judgment and posts.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
7. No, it's not acceptable behavior, but what does race have to do with it?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:15 PM
Oct 2013

Why does this person bring the race of the offender into it? The offender is behaving in the fashion of a shit-stain, but gratuitously jumping to racial stereotypes and slurs is basically like saying that all people of the offender's race or social status are also shit-stains who are somehow complicit in his decision to be a shit-stain.

The teacher could just as easily have condemned the behavior without throwing in racial slurs. It isn't about how those racial slurs hurt the one guy who did actually piss on a telephone pole. It's about how they hurt all the people who didn't. I've seen plenty of white guys pee in places they shouldn't and my reaction to their personally being disgusting had nothing to do with their race.

Response to antigone382 (Reply #7)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
21. My apologies.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:27 PM
Oct 2013

Knee jerk reaction to people peeing in public. I have no defense for being an asshole.

Response to Aerows (Reply #5)

JI7

(89,252 posts)
18. it was his use of terms like "Nigger" and "Ghetto" which offended people's
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:24 PM
Oct 2013

"racial sensibilities".

and this piece of shit is supposed to be a teacher. he should be fired, not just suspended.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. I didn't see that until I clicked on the link
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:26 PM
Oct 2013

I had a knee-jerk reaction to people peeing in public without acknowledging how gross it is to do so. Yes, I agree, he should be fired.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
43. You *honestly* don't believe
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:15 PM
Oct 2013

that after a football game, when much beer has been consumed, that a redneck in the South didn't unzip his pants, and piss off the porch trying to douse as much of the bushes as he could?

You *really* don't believe that happened?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
44. No, in the South
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 10:21 PM
Oct 2013

there is no such thing as a male, after much beer and a football game, pissing as far as he possibly can off of a porch.

Thank heavens it wasn't a member of my family doing it and offending the fucking neighborhood, though I'm sure they have seen *that* family member of theirs doing it at some point.

It's disgusting, and doing it where you won't be seen is one thing (and acceptable), but doing it where everybody can see it is entirely another and icky. I don't want to see you piss. I'm not proud of you for having a good stream of urine all over the bushes.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. Pissing on someone's front lawn in broad view
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

is and should be illegal. It is a health hazard, and encourages others to drop their pants and do the same. If you are looking for sympathy about why someone wants to call the police when people drop their drawers in full view and do their business, don't look at me because I have none. There is a reason why toilets include doors so that people don't have to watch you do the things we all have to do, and there are sinks so you can wash your hands afterwards.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
12. It's not about sympathy for the guy who pissed on the telephone pole.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:19 PM
Oct 2013

It's about all the people who once again have their entire ethnic heritage dragged through the mud and thrown in their faces because one guy who happens to have the same skin tone as they do chose to act like a disgusting ass.

Pissing on peoples' lawns is never, NEVER acceptable (well, unless you're talking about some of my hippie friends who encourage the practice). Using racial stereotypes is also never, NEVER acceptable. You can't just run around defaming and stereotyping entire races because one kid pisses you off.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
15. My white neighbor
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:23 PM
Oct 2013

had a party a few nights ago, and one of the white guests unzipped his pants and pissed right off of the porch in full view. I don't know if he could see me, because I was on the porch with the lights out, but it was fucking disgusting and the light illuminated him peeing in the bushes. It was nasty.

antigone382

(3,682 posts)
19. Sure, it can be pretty gross to watch, especially close to a house.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:26 PM
Oct 2013

I live in the woods so guys go out to pee on trees all the time, but there's some space and distance there, so it isn't like you're gonna run up on that tree before rain washes it away (or before some other critter pisses on it anyway). My only point is that if we don't see a white guy pissing in an inappropriate location as an example of why his race sucks, we shouldn't see a black guy doing the same thing as an example.

I see downthread that you didn't realize the tweet used ethnic slurs, so now I understand. Peace.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
13. You're right! People who's dogs piss on fire hydrants should be arrested!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:20 PM
Oct 2013

It's a health hazard, after all.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
14. I didn't see where he used the N-Word
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:21 PM
Oct 2013

and was ugly. I commented before clicking on the link. In my defense, my white neighbor unzipped his pants and pissed off the back porch a few nights ago, and I was disgusted. That's where I was coming from.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
23. There are any number of reasons why pissing on someone's lawn is, and should be, illegal . . .
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:35 PM
Oct 2013

. . . but to say it constitutes a "health hazard" is rather a stretch. As Orrex points out above, pets (not to mention wild animals) routinely urinate all over the place, yet there has never been, to my knowledge, any serious threat posed to human health. I'm not in any way defending the practice -- I am just disputing an overblown claim.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
24. You are right
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:38 PM
Oct 2013

I just had a moment there where I remembered my disgust at watching a beer drenched male pee off the back porch of my neighbor's house like it was the most normal thing in the world. Ick.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
26. I'm really having trouble believing you are this dense.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:57 PM
Oct 2013

This teacher is claiming all black men piss in his front yard. Not one person who actually did so.

I'm having trouble believing you are unable to understand the difference, even after it's been pointed out to you multiple times.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
27. I explained myself several times in the thread
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

and apologized for not clicking on the link before having a knee-jerk response. Feel free to kick me in the head when I have already submitted that I was wrong, but it isn't going to make you more righteous for doing so.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. It didn't take clicking on the link to understand he was talking about all black men.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
Oct 2013

That's in the quote in the OP.

And you spent a whole lot of the thread having this pointed out to you, and continuing to rail against an individual peeing. Then the magic N word showed up and you decided he was a racist....but still appear to have missed that he was complaining about all black men even without the magic N word.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Well, if apologizing and explaining isn't enough
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know what your goal is here. It certainly isn't anything productive for either of us.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
33. no need to be rude
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:12 PM
Oct 2013

The poster explained his error and apologized many times. Give it a freaking rest...

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
34. Except they didn't.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:15 PM
Oct 2013

The error was missing that the OP itself is talking about all black people. The poster decided the teacher was racist when the underlying article included "the N word". The poster still hasn't figured out that the OP is racist, even without "the N word".

Instead, they attacked a bunch of people as supporters of public urination, instead of actually reading the posts.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
36. So what DO you want?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:29 PM
Oct 2013

You got an apology. If that's not good enough for you then the perceived density of the poster is the very least of your challenges.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
46. and you thought you would fix everything
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:52 AM
Oct 2013

By calling the poster dense?

Yeah...that always works

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
47. Nope. Just tired of them doing similar things to other posters.
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 09:55 AM
Oct 2013

When post after post after post can't get past the horrific specter of public urination, it is abundantly clear that being nice about it isn't going to get through.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
49. Post after post?
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:08 AM
Oct 2013

Like the multple posts your target submitted, apologizing for the error?

Post after Post, which you refused to acknowledge?

Like that?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
37. Based on that teacher's other words, I'm not inclined to
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:40 PM
Oct 2013

take his story at face value...

It's not like he couldn't pull something out of his ass to justify his rant...It's an age-old (and dangerous) trick...

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
17. Certainly could put him up for
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:23 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Wed Oct 30, 2013, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)

Racist Asshat Teacher of The Year.


Makes me cringe to think that this guy is teaching kids.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
25. Not only racist
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:45 PM
Oct 2013

But obviously stupid in putting something like that up on Facebook and not realizing how he could be jeopardizing his career.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
42. i've had a few parents from the ghetto drinking 40s on the street outside but it didn't bother me.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 08:24 PM
Oct 2013

the kids had creative homemade costumes. one little dude was dressed as a fork, and he was tinfoiled up from head to toe.
parents might have been drinking but they weren't causing any trouble or pissing on stuff.
yawn on that rant.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
52. well, they weren't from my neighborhood, they were obviously very poor, and there's three
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 02:13 PM
Oct 2013

high rise projects within a few miles from the house. it's common practice for people who live in , let's say, unsavory neighborhoods, to take their kids trick or treating in a safer place. so call it a very educated guess.

i'm not disparaging anybody, there's quite a few rough areas here; it would be insane to take a little kid out at night in those parts of the city. I think it's a smart move on the parents part. I don't give a shit if they're brown bagging it on the sidewalk while the kids to up to the houses.

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