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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:44 PM Oct 2013

Karl Lagerfeld Sued For Comment About Curvy Women On Catwalks

A French association that fights for the rights of curvy women has made an official complaint against designer Karl Lagerfeld over his comments that no one wants to see plump models on catwalks.

The association -- called "Pretty, curvy, sexy and fine with it" -- filed the complaint at the prosecutor's office in the western city of Saintes, accusing the haute couture star of "defamatory and discriminatory comments", its president Betty Aubriere said.

The Chanel designer, who lost 42 kilos (93 pounds) more than a decade ago and wrote a book about it, has periodically criticised overweight people and lauded thinness.

"No one wants to see curvy women on the catwalk", he is cited as saying in the recently published book "The world according to Karl", which collates some of his most famous quotes.

He repeated this on television earlier this month, and said France's healthcare system was struggling partly because of "all the illnesses contracted by people who are too fat."

"It's the fat women sitting in front of televisions with their pack of crisps who say slim models are hideous", he was also quoted as saying in the book.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/karl-lagerfeld-sued-for-comment-about-curvy-women-on-catwalks-2013-10
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Karl Lagerfeld Sued For Comment About Curvy Women On Catwalks (Original Post) FarCenter Oct 2013 OP
Kiss my ass, Karl. Aristus Oct 2013 #1
yes curvy is sexy.... nt leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #8
picture of Karl Lagerfield - the guy with so much to say about how women look Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #2
I'd say what a hunka hunka burnin' love... Whisp Oct 2013 #3
"I love it when old ugly men decide what beauty is in women" badtoworse Oct 2013 #17
lol. Whisp Oct 2013 #19
What an erudite response. badtoworse Oct 2013 #21
you can admire old farty mysoginist men all you like Whisp Oct 2013 #24
so why does he pay women to have sex with him ? JI7 Oct 2013 #25
I could have had some fun with this question, but I won't. badtoworse Oct 2013 #29
well this thread is about him, and i don't think a guy who has to pay women to have sex with him JI7 Oct 2013 #30
Probably not, but maybe he does it because he can. badtoworse Oct 2013 #36
Your original version was actually Roberto Cavalli FarCenter Oct 2013 #4
thanks. I corrected. Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #5
What the hell is that? GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #7
No one wants to see that fan-waving two legged shar-pei, or hear from him either. MADem Oct 2013 #6
How could a suit like this possibly succeed? Orrex Oct 2013 #9
Defamatory and discriminatory comments as per the article LanternWaste Oct 2013 #12
Sure, he's an asshole, but a lawsuit? Really? Orrex Oct 2013 #14
I was merely answering the specific question posed LanternWaste Oct 2013 #26
Ah. I see. Orrex Oct 2013 #41
"He's expressing his opinion.." OhioChick Oct 2013 #35
Not a suit, exactly. Dr. Strange Oct 2013 #13
Still seems like a long shot. Orrex Oct 2013 #15
stupid lawsuit quinnox Oct 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #16
This is confusing in that the headline says 'sued' but the article suggests a criminal complaint. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #11
their culture is different JI7 Oct 2013 #18
isn't he the one that has been attacking singer Adele on her weight ? JI7 Oct 2013 #20
what the fuck ? does he get injections to make his lips more full ? JI7 Oct 2013 #22
He wears collars to prop up his turkey neck and gloves to hide his age spotted hands. MADem Oct 2013 #27
hey, IT'S Coraline's "other" mother! demwing Oct 2013 #40
I have no problem stating his personal opinions... kiawah Oct 2013 #23
That's nice. n/t Iris Oct 2013 #31
Ok, this will be unpopular, but-- Marr Oct 2013 #28
no, he made comments about how nobody wants to see that and has a history JI7 Oct 2013 #32
No, he said no one wants to see that *on the catwalk*. Marr Oct 2013 #33
yes, he has about Adele who is not a model but a singer , why does it matter what her weight is JI7 Oct 2013 #34
By the looks of her pictures in 2008, she most likely was obese (by BMI standards) - kiawah Oct 2013 #38
it wasn't his comments, it was her wanting to have a baby and her health JI7 Oct 2013 #39
he also said Pippa Middleton did not have a nice looking face so only should be seen from the back JI7 Oct 2013 #37
a little extra weight makes cuddling Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #42
the entire fashion industry pollutes minds with unrealistic and unhealthy ideas steve2470 Oct 2013 #43
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
3. I'd say what a hunka hunka burnin' love...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:49 PM
Oct 2013


I love it when old ugly men decide what beauty is in women.
 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
17. "I love it when old ugly men decide what beauty is in women"
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:29 PM
Oct 2013

They are probably the most qualified. They have interracted with women for decades, through all stages of their lives (as well as their own). They've seen more women and probably known more (in a physical way) than a young man. They've had more time to appreciate the inner beauty in women. Who would have a more informed opinion about beauty in a woman than an old man?

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
24. you can admire old farty mysoginist men all you like
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:38 PM
Oct 2013

and deem them so knowledgeable and special and experts on 'womenz' because of their length of time on this earth.

I don't see it that way - I see these farty old men thinking they are like buyers at a slave or meat market and their judgement marks worth of another human being because, well, they're old and wise and all that shit. lol.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
29. I could have had some fun with this question, but I won't.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:46 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know, but how is that relevant to what I posted? I was thinking about old men in general, not him specifically.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
30. well this thread is about him, and i don't think a guy who has to pay women to have sex with him
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:48 PM
Oct 2013

has a good understanding of women regardless of his age.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
36. Probably not, but maybe he does it because he can.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

ETA: I don't know anything about him, so any opinion as to why would be just speculation

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
7. What the hell is that?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013


I guess Mr. Lagerfeld had never looked at a men's magazine, like "Playboy". Nothing but curvy women in them. I dare say it's more than the "fat, crisp-eating" women who don't think that women who look like underweight adolescent boys are all that.

On edit: That this photo is someone else was posted while I was writing my post. I see the photo posted by MADem. I stand by my .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. No one wants to see that fan-waving two legged shar-pei, or hear from him either.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

This is the guy who is kvetching about "beauty?"

?5

He looks like the crypt keeper....and if he thinks the "fingerless gloves" trick (to hide age spotted hands) is fooling anyone, he might want to check the portraits of elderly Victorian dowagers...because he looks like he's channeling them!

That said, I don't know if the suit will prevail. He's an idiot, and idiots say stupid things.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
9. How could a suit like this possibly succeed?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:11 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not defending ol' Karl's idiocy, but what is the basis of the suit?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Defamatory and discriminatory comments as per the article
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:46 PM
Oct 2013

"what is the basis of the suit...?"

Defamatory and discriminatory comments as per the article.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
14. Sure, he's an asshole, but a lawsuit? Really?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:12 PM
Oct 2013

Defamatory how? Discriminatory how?

He's expressing his opinion, and he's been in the catwalk business for decades, so he'd probably be given a good deal of latitude when it comes to assessing what people want to see on catwalks, even if he's an asshole opinion.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. I was merely answering the specific question posed
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:39 PM
Oct 2013

I was merely answering the specific question posed, regardless of whether one agrees with the premise of the suit or not.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
41. Ah. I see.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:39 PM
Oct 2013

Still, it seems like a ridiculous law suit and unlikely to do anything except benefit the asshole.

Dr. Strange

(25,921 posts)
13. Not a suit, exactly.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:59 PM
Oct 2013

I think it's a legal complaint, with the end goal being a fine for Lagerfeld.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
15. Still seems like a long shot.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:14 PM
Oct 2013

I mean, someone could as readily (and maybe should) sue the Miss America Pageant for not showcasing plus-sized women.

I would be simply amazed if Lagerfeld suffers anything more than a bit of finger-wagging and a lot of free press exposure over this.

Response to quinnox (Reply #10)

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
11. This is confusing in that the headline says 'sued' but the article suggests a criminal complaint.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:40 PM
Oct 2013

French jurisprudence allows such a complaint for insulting a group of people about their appearance? If we allowed such litigation, the courts would be even more jammed than they are.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
20. isn't he the one that has been attacking singer Adele on her weight ?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:34 PM
Oct 2013

and when she lost some weight he took credit for it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. He wears collars to prop up his turkey neck and gloves to hide his age spotted hands.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:42 PM
Oct 2013

He used to be fat as a dinner goose, a real chub-chub, but then he went on a diet and he hates on people who are fat now. He's rather obnoxious about it, too.

He's probably had more botox and fillers than half of Hollywood. It still doesn't matter--he looks dreadful.

Here he was in his chunky monkey days....

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
28. Ok, this will be unpopular, but--
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:45 PM
Oct 2013

his comment was about haute couture fashion shows. The models in those shows are canvases; clothing hangers. The designs they're wearing aren't meant to flatter a regular female frame. They're more like cloth works of art than they are garments.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
32. no, he made comments about how nobody wants to see that and has a history
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
Oct 2013

of talking about women this way.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
33. No, he said no one wants to see that *on the catwalk*.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:54 PM
Oct 2013

Has he made other comments that betray a sort of bigotry towards fat people? It sounds like it-- but this particular comment was about catwalks.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
34. yes, he has about Adele who is not a model but a singer , why does it matter what her weight is
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:57 PM
Oct 2013

and when she did lose some weight he gave himself credit. but she most likely lost weight because she was planning to have a baby and she had said she would only change her weight based on health.

 

kiawah

(64 posts)
38. By the looks of her pictures in 2008, she most likely was obese (by BMI standards) -
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:16 PM
Oct 2013

If his comments helped urge her on to a healthier lifestyle, then I'd say it was win / win....

JI7

(89,252 posts)
37. he also said Pippa Middleton did not have a nice looking face so only should be seen from the back
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:59 PM
Oct 2013

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
42. a little extra weight makes cuddling
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:46 AM
Oct 2013

So much more comfortable. I dated a 95 lb girl once and it was horrible, yikes !

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
43. the entire fashion industry pollutes minds with unrealistic and unhealthy ideas
Wed Oct 30, 2013, 04:54 AM
Oct 2013

Karl is part of it. He's gotten rich off it. I lack respect for him because of this. My $0.02.

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