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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 01:59 PM Oct 2013

When Did ‘To Serve & Protect’ Become ‘To Seize & Profit?’

When Did ‘To Serve & Protect’ Become ‘To Seize & Profit?’

How police across the country are using civil asset forfeiture to seize people’s houses, cars and cash to make money for their departments.
Jesse Lava and Sarah Solon
October 29, 2013 - http://www.thenation.com/article/176874/when-did-serve-protect-become-seize-profit

Leon and Mary Adams had been living in their Philadelphia home for nearly five decades. They were eating breakfast one morning last year when armed cops streamed out of a bunch of vans and said the couple had 10 minutes to grab their things and leave. Permanently. As in, Leon and Mary wouldn’t be allowed to come back. The cops then seized the property so they could auction it off, all because the Adams’ grandson allegedly did a few $20 marijuana deals on the porch.

This is just one of the many stories Sarah Stillman told in The New Yorker this summer about a “process” called civil asset forfeiture. And it’s not just happening in Philadelphia; it’s happening nationwide to people’s houses, cars, cash and other property that cops seize and sell to make money for their departments. See how it works in our latest video in the Prison Profiteers series, a partnership between Beyond Bars, the ACLU, and The Nation magazine:



Oct 28, 2013
Police officers are forcing people to choose between time behind bars or turning over their money and property -- all without ever making an arrest. Fight civil asset forfeiture abuse. www.aclu.org/policing-for-profit #prisonprofiteers
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When Did ‘To Serve & Protect’ Become ‘To Seize & Profit?’ (Original Post) Coyotl Oct 2013 OP
"to protect and serve" = the police union and its members nt msongs Oct 2013 #1
It's the police unions that keep the money? Moosepoop Oct 2013 #18
I think it coincides with declaring war on drugs.... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #2
Yep... haikugal Oct 2013 #8
Also coincides with privatizing the prison system....nt Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #9
Funny how that works.... haikugal Oct 2013 #11
K&R Started in the '80s and accelerated in the '90s. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #3
Evidently it means to "protect and serve" bad cops as best they can. Rex Oct 2013 #4
In 2002, we saw cops literally shoot down the front door of a house in our neighborhood. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #5
As I recall, it started in the 1980's. First came SWAT teams in the 1970's, then Reagan. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #6
It really started with Nixon declaring war on his political enemies. Coyotl Oct 2013 #7
All that funding is the reason for pot not being legalized. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2013 #24
The drug War, basically. bemildred Oct 2013 #10
fucking cops really are pigs! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #12
Maybe the Obama Administration and the DOJ are unaware of this. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #13
+1 Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #15
I honestly believe that most criminals are better people Garion_55 Oct 2013 #14
Since when? Since about 30 years ago, when forfeiture laws started being Nay Oct 2013 #16
Around the same time that Populist_Prole Oct 2013 #17
When Poppy Bush was VP and "drug czar" he pushed the search & seizure laws. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2013 #19
Thanks, Reagan. secondvariety Oct 2013 #20
I blame the war on drugs, pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #21
Ever watch COPS? RosettaStoned77 Oct 2013 #22
Law enforcement has been a "for profit" enterprise for some time now. lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #23
I believe much of this was launched during the first Bush and Clinton years. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #25

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
2. I think it coincides with declaring war on drugs....
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:02 PM
Oct 2013

Not sure how you declare war on a thing, but we seem to be good at it.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
8. Yep...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

in the 80's...it was easy to see if you had eyes to see and a working brain. That was also when our rights were rescinded, but it was for a good cause eh? Yeah, like the war on terrorism....sure.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Evidently it means to "protect and serve" bad cops as best they can.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:05 PM
Oct 2013

They would rather have a rotten apple on the force, then admit they have a rotten apple on the force.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
5. In 2002, we saw cops literally shoot down the front door of a house in our neighborhood.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oct 2013

A home owned by a 60-something year old couple (who had the nicest kept lawn in the neighborhood) who kept to themselves. Apparently, they had a marijuana plant in their basement. They took them away, dressed in pajamas. They lost everything.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. As I recall, it started in the 1980's. First came SWAT teams in the 1970's, then Reagan.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:11 PM
Oct 2013

What with all that weaponry post-Viet Nam that needed to be sold to keep friends of congress in business, we needed ways to use it.

The war on drugs became a handy excuse and then seizure became a convenient form of funding.

Sad and sick.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. It really started with Nixon declaring war on his political enemies.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:15 PM
Oct 2013

And it still is a political wart on the left and on the counter-culture movement generally. Millions and millions of voters have been disenfranchised and the outcome of national elections have been altered as a result. The strategy works really well for the republicans. Without it, Gore would have been elected.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. The drug War, basically.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:00 PM
Oct 2013

There are always corrupt cops, but without the high-grade cabbage, it doesn't get like this.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
13. Maybe the Obama Administration and the DOJ are unaware of this.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:21 PM
Oct 2013

Otherwise they would do something to stop this.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
16. Since when? Since about 30 years ago, when forfeiture laws started being
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:06 PM
Oct 2013

used against nearly anybody who had anything of worth that the cops and judges decided they wanted. Because the cops got to keep the plunder.

Now, what could possibly go wrong with that idea???

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
17. Around the same time that
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:12 PM
Oct 2013

The PTB changed their mantra from "Trust Us" when they need our political support to "Fuck off" after they got it and no longer need us.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,841 posts)
19. When Poppy Bush was VP and "drug czar" he pushed the search & seizure laws.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:23 PM
Oct 2013

He may not have invented the concept but that's when it really took off.

pitbullgirl1965

(564 posts)
21. I blame the war on drugs,
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
Oct 2013

and the unswerving belief that Law Enforcement can do no wrong. I feel this somehow ties into our jingoistic worship of the military too, but I can't articulate it.

Cute story: after 9/11 everyone's car had the yellow ribbon sticker on it. Except for my friend Bonnie: she got the major stink eye from other drivers for not having one.

 

RosettaStoned77

(53 posts)
22. Ever watch COPS?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know why, but it seems to always be in Florida. They set up these small-time, dime bag buy busts and the take people's cars. Laughin in their faces, acting like heros. Fucking sickening!

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