Excellent article about Andy Lopez shooting

[FreakinDJ]

Really puts it in perspective

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/28/1251299/-Now-We-Know-Who-Killed-Andy-Lopez-And-What-His-Mindset-Was

[FarPoint]

1. What about it?

Is there something you wish to discuss?

[leftyohiolib]

2. he has already tried and convicted the police all on his own.

.that being said i should state that im not saying they are innocent of anything. parts of that article are not making that officer look good

[FreakinDJ]

3. Eye Witness testimony is doing a fine job of that

Much better then the Armchair Child Murderer Apologist

[leftyohiolib]

4. that coming from an armchair jurist. oh i forgot eyewitnesses never lie

truth is i dont have the facts and neither do you . eyewitnesses lie and so do the police

[COLGATE4]

5. Eyewitnesses don't even have to consciously

lie to be wrong - eyewitness testimony is inherently unreliable.

[Ranchemp.]

6. Very true,

that's why DA's and Defense lawyers like to back up eyewitness testimony with forensic and physical evidence.

[FreakinDJ]

7. EPIC Fail

Multiple Eyewitness from different view points apparently don't suffer the same delusional thinking the Murder Apologist do

[COLGATE4]

8. As a practicing attorney for more than

26 years I can tell you that eyewitnesses are wrong much more often than right. No one in their right mind would bring a case based solely on eyewitness testimony. Nothing delusional about that, except your belief that eyewitness "testimony" should be treated as gospel.

[FreakinDJ]

11. There is video out there too

[COLGATE4]

15. That's fine. Let's see what it actually shows - or doesn't.

The facts will come out upon investigation. Jumping to conclusions based on one (or muptiple) eyewitness statements is never a good idea.

[Duer 157099]

16. Really? I haven't heard that.

Link?

[FreakinDJ]

18. Some on had it taken down

But others have seen it and commented about it on their blogs

[Ranchemp.]

10. While not discounting these 2 eyewitness accounts,

it's a fact that eyewitness accounts are inherently unreliable, sometimes by design, sometimes not, that's why no DA wants to go to trial with eyewitness testimony only, they want scientific and physical evidence to back up the eyewitness.

[FreakinDJ]

12. Wouldn't they have to talk to them first to determin that

2 of the Witnesses waited at the Memorial for 5 days waiting for some one to ask them what they saw.

Talk about some one working to prove a predetermined outcome

[Ranchemp.]

14. Yes they would have to talk to them first,

did the investigators know about these eyewitnesses? Why didn't these 2 go to the investigators to give their statements?
Not blaming the 2 witnesses, just trying to sort this out.
There should also be a dash cam video that will help sort this mess out.

[FreakinDJ]

17. Don't know why - But No they didn't talk to them

You should try reading some of the older post over on the Facebook page. Another person claims he witnessed the shooting and the kid was still alive after the first bullet had dropped him to the ground. Except he had fallen on top of the airsoft gun and was moving around. That's when the deputy put 6 more bullets into little Johny Lopez

I know its not right for me to post heresay and I have avoided it. But when asked as with the 1 woman they will tell you and the courts what they saw. Only problem is no one is asking them

[frylock]

13. that poor, poor police officer. being convicted in the court of public opinion..

for murdering that kid. you seem sincerely upset by all that. not to fear, however. this murdering shitbag will walk just like they always do.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. People who are pulling the trigger with ease, seem to be the ones who think

they know the laws well.