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RandySF

(58,913 posts)
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 09:48 PM Oct 2013

Daily Kos: GOP Collapses in Virginia.

The Washington Post just posted their final poll of the Virginia campaign (9/22 results in parenthesis):

Governor
McAuliffe (D) 51 (47)
Cuccinelli (R) 39 (39)

Lt Gov
Northam (D) 52 (45)
Jackson (R) 39 (42)

Attorney General
Herring (D) 49 (45)
Obenshain (R) 46 (42)

Democratic Party: 50 fav, 48 unfav
Republican Party: 32 fav, 65 unfav

Virginia voters have had one of the clearest contrasts between candidates imaginable: Terry McAuliffe running an explicitly liberal campaign, and Ken Cuccinelli running a hardcore conservative one. It's what both bases have been demanding, and both candidates have delivered.

Only one side will emerge next Tuesday validated, and it looks like it will be our side. And it's not just the governor's race, but the lieutenant governor's and attorney's general races as well. And it's not just them, either. Look at those party numbers! They point to big gains in the legislature, which is why we're pushing hard for our mini-slate of state lege candidates.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/28/1251378/-GOP-collapses-in-Virginia

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Daily Kos: GOP Collapses in Virginia. (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2013 OP
Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #1
ROFL! Nicely played. nt longship Oct 2013 #17
Good news. The state houses are just as important. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #2
also "near future in texas" JI7 Oct 2013 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #4
Two very important lessons the gop needs to learn from this. 1. Don't shut down the federal okaawhatever Oct 2013 #5
LOL! whttevrr Oct 2013 #9
#2 (cont'd) Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #20
^^^THIS^^^ kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #24
Banning oral sex isn't only bad policy... Fawke Em Oct 2013 #32
lol. yep. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #36
You'd think they would have gotten a clue Aerows Oct 2013 #38
We haven't won yet Vote! Heather MC Oct 2013 #6
This could have huge consequences on 2016 election (and maybe 2014) BlueStreak Oct 2013 #7
Absolutely. I have no doubt they are still going to try to split the electoral college voting rules okaawhatever Oct 2013 #37
They tried that in PA, and probably will again. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #39
VA depends on defense dollars Aerows Oct 2013 #40
Win or lose, Virginia is going to stay a swing state onenote Oct 2013 #44
I'm not so sure BlueStreak Oct 2013 #46
The more people learn about the "new" Republican Party RainDog Oct 2013 #8
Oh you mean the NuRepublikkkan party? SummerSnow Oct 2013 #22
Well, according to Kooch... there's no Likkin' to it. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #34
Battle of the surrogates. ProSense Oct 2013 #10
If only Cantor were running this year. nt grasswire Oct 2013 #11
ha SummerSnow Oct 2013 #23
Hilarious. They did it to themselves. Coyotl Oct 2013 #12
Let's hope all these RV's show up. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #13
Looking forward to the results on Wednesday... freshwest Oct 2013 #14
Did Santorum show up to save the day???? You know, a few photo ops for 2016??? LOL. libdem4life Oct 2013 #15
Kicking! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #16
I'm worried about Herring, though. Going down there this weekend to GOTV still. Not getting Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #18
Beware of the red wave . . . aggiesal Oct 2013 #19
...and it's important to get a Democratic Attorney General. NCarolinawoman Oct 2013 #21
If we win both governor and AG races, it will likely be a omen to 2014. Left Coast2020 Oct 2013 #25
This is looking blue-wave Oct 2013 #26
It ain't over till it's over. Folks in VA need to GOTV. No sitting on laurels. nt MADem Oct 2013 #27
K & R Scurrilous Oct 2013 #28
wow Hutzpa Oct 2013 #29
GOTV. Virginia! We're counting on you! Taking our country back one state at a time. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #30
Fantastic! Change has come Oct 2013 #31
Apparently outlawing oral sex is not as popular as the GOP had hoped. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #33
But no one could have predicted that orgasms would prove to be popular. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #42
voting machines in VA? sigmasix Oct 2013 #35
We have new machines in our precinct onenote Oct 2013 #43
Republicans, your war on women, gays, minorities and gubmint workers has been a resounding success! Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #41
Don't get complacent, VA DUers. We still need to GOTV. FSogol Oct 2013 #45

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
5. Two very important lessons the gop needs to learn from this. 1. Don't shut down the federal
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:03 PM
Oct 2013

government and expect the state with the highest number of federal employees to vote for your party.
2. Banning oral sex is just bad policy.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
32. Banning oral sex isn't only bad policy...
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 01:26 AM
Oct 2013

it's bad husbandry.

Our body parts are sometimes on the outside, too.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
38. You'd think they would have gotten a clue
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

when the woman that was a witch ran on the "outlaw masturbation" idea and lost what was supposed to be a solid Republican seat got her behind handed to her that they would have learned. But no, trust conservatives to do the same thing over and over again with the same results and just think "we need to do it more this time".

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
7. This could have huge consequences on 2016 election (and maybe 2014)
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 10:16 PM
Oct 2013

Virginia has been one of the states trying electoral dirty tricks. McAuliffe should be able to completely shut that down even without a blue legislature. This could take VA out of the swing state category altogether. If VA had not been considered in play down the stretch in 2012, the press would not have been able to play that out as a close horse race.

If we can solidify WI, OH, PA, and MI, there will simply be no way for a Republican to win the WH unless there is a huge disparity in the quality of candidates.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
37. Absolutely. I have no doubt they are still going to try to split the electoral college voting rules
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:52 PM
Oct 2013

for certain states. Virginia is one of those states. Their plan was to issue the electoral votes by congressional district. Since the districts are gerrymandered, the net effect was the minority candidate would receive about 75% of the electoral votes. A Democratic governor would be able to veto that law.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
39. They tried that in PA, and probably will again.
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

That's another reason why the 2014 elections are very important. I think Corbett is up for re-election in 2014.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
40. VA depends on defense dollars
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:59 PM
Oct 2013

for a large number of families in the state. When they shut down the government, they screwed over VA families, and those people vote. It's no wonder poll numbers plummeted. They peed in the face of the electorate that voted them in office with the shut down.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
44. Win or lose, Virginia is going to stay a swing state
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:43 PM
Oct 2013

Over the past 20 years, Virginia has established itself as a solidly purple state when it comes to statewide elections. Republicans George Allen and Jim Gilmore cruised to victory in 1993 and 1997. Then Mark Warner and Tim Kaine turned things around for the Democrats in 2001 and 2005. And then Republican Bob McDonnell crushed the Democratic Party candidate, Creigh Deeds in 2009.

It looks like McCauliffe is set to take the statehouse back for the Democrats in 2013. But it hardly signifies that the state has become a blue state. Typically, when the repubs field a candidate who is not a scary crazy guy, their candidate gets between 56 and 58 percent of the vote. The best that the Democrats typically are able to do is around 52 percent. There is clearly a swing vote of around 8-10 percent that determines the elections and they are less driven by party identification than by whether the candidate seems "moderate" to them.

The repubs have shot themselves in the foot a couple of times now by selecting their nominees via convention rather than primary, thus empowering the crazies to control the decision. If this year's governor's race turns out the way it appears it will turn out, there is likely to be a civil war within the Virginia republican party. If the more "moderate' (and I use that term advisedly when referring to repubs) group, represented by someone like former Lieutenant Governor Bolling, prevails, the party will be competitive again. But if not, then the nutjobs will continue to scare away the swing voters. Let's just be thankful the nutjogs got their way for this election. A Bolling/McCauliffe race would look much much different I suspect.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
46. I'm not so sure
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 06:49 PM
Oct 2013

We cannot ever take anything for granted. But the population growth is clearly in the DC area, and this is a lot more Democratic than the rest of the state. So I think that shift already was moving things our direction. Unless there is a big disparity in candidates (Presidential and Senators), this should be at least deep, deep purple going forward. The Congressional delegation and the state legislature is a different matter.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
18. I'm worried about Herring, though. Going down there this weekend to GOTV still. Not getting
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:02 PM
Oct 2013

complacent in the least. I don't trust the Rethugs at all!!

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
21. ...and it's important to get a Democratic Attorney General.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:32 PM
Oct 2013

We still have a Democrat in that position here in NC. According to polls, he will probably be our next Governor.

We also still have Democrats in the positions of Secretary of State and Treasurer.

Keep up the good work, Virginians. Keep it going!

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
25. If we win both governor and AG races, it will likely be a omen to 2014.
Mon Oct 28, 2013, 11:50 PM
Oct 2013

Was trying to think of another election somewhere, but I may be confusing it with Booker who just won.

But the other thought is, this may be an indication of how badly the tea freaks--and Cruz--pissed off "Indy" voters by shutting down the country.

I just hope this carries over till next year to the point "D's" win Texas.


sigmasix

(794 posts)
35. voting machines in VA?
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 02:16 AM
Oct 2013

does virginia use diebold voting machines? It would be pretty easy to steal the VA election and use it to claim additional, non polling support. And teabaggers have no moral compunctions about usurping democratic choice.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
43. We have new machines in our precinct
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:24 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know the technical term but they use a paper ballot that you fill out (by filling in circles with a pen) and then feed into a machine. Presumably its some form of scanner, but the paper ballot is preserved.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
41. Republicans, your war on women, gays, minorities and gubmint workers has been a resounding success!
Tue Oct 29, 2013, 03:20 PM
Oct 2013

Congratulations on your brilliant strategery!

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