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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:34 AM Oct 2013

US has been monitoring German chancellor Angela Merkel's phone since 2002, report says

The US government may have been monitoring German chancellor Angela Merkel's cell phone for more than 10 years, according to a report by Der Spiegel based on internal documents from the National Security Agency (NSA).

President Barack Obama told Merkel that he was not aware her phone was being bugged, or he would have stopped it. However, he declined to say whether her phone had been monitored in the past. A separate report in Die Welt said the number of Merkel's Nokia 6120 Slide was listed in leaked NSA documents, although she's since switched to a BlackBerry Z10 smart phone.

The White House assured Merkel that her phone is not being tapped now. But today's report suggests that the surveillance went back as far as 2002, when Merkel was the head of her political party, the Christian Democratic Union. She became chancellor in 2005.

It's unclear how much data was being collected. Der Spiegel reports the surveillance was being done from a legally-registered intelligence office. The agency reportedly has 80 such offices around the world, including Paris, Madrid, Rome, Prague, Geneva, and Frankfurt, according to a 2010 NSA document.

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/26/5031990/us-has-been-monitoring-german-chancellor-angela-merkels-phone-since-2002

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US has been monitoring German chancellor Angela Merkel's phone since 2002, report says (Original Post) cali Oct 2013 OP
October 26, 2001 PuffedMica Oct 2013 #1
Nation states have been spying on one another since the beginning of time. baldguy Oct 2013 #2
Yes, amongst enemies. redgreenandblue Oct 2013 #3
The UK spied on the US before & during WWII. baldguy Oct 2013 #12
Has Germany been spying on Bush and Obama? Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #8
You'd think someone in the BOG would have let Obama know.. Fumesucker Oct 2013 #4
Not sure what your point is vdogg Oct 2013 #5
I'm poking fun at the many, many posts that have dismissed any revelations about spying.. Fumesucker Oct 2013 #6
Good to see a verified story about this n/t intaglio Oct 2013 #7
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #9
who here is willing to take the risk that Angela Merkel could be plotting with Islamic extremist to Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #10
German, Mexican and Brazilian technolgy is so advanced Ichingcarpenter Oct 2013 #11

PuffedMica

(1,061 posts)
1. October 26, 2001
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:09 AM
Oct 2013

Bush got his Patriot Act in October 2001 and Merkel got her phone tapped in 2002.

Way to go Idiot Son. Bush sure knew how to advance the image of the United States on the international stage.

redgreenandblue

(2,088 posts)
3. Yes, amongst enemies.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:21 AM
Oct 2013

When it happens amongst allies it is always "news" in that usually people will be pissed and there will be consequences.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
12. The UK spied on the US before & during WWII.
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 04:04 PM
Oct 2013

Jonathan Pollard is currently serving a life sentence, but Israel is still considered a close ally. And in the past America has conducted active intel operations against Canada and Mexico.

The targets of these activities may not like it, but they would definitely do the same thing if given the opportunity. The pretend otherwise is dangerously naive.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. You'd think someone in the BOG would have let Obama know..
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 05:30 AM
Oct 2013

Since we here on DU have known about all the spying since 2007 or 1997 or 1777 or something.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
5. Not sure what your point is
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:03 AM
Oct 2013

Was Obama president in 2002? Or is it that this story doesn't fit your "obama is the cause of all evils" narrative and therefore warranted a snarky response?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
6. I'm poking fun at the many, many posts that have dismissed any revelations about spying..
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 06:12 AM
Oct 2013

By saying "We've known all about this for a long time now".

Sorry to ruin your myopic and one dimensional view of me but I defended Obama when most of DU was down on him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1480985

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
10. who here is willing to take the risk that Angela Merkel could be plotting with Islamic extremist to
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 07:55 AM
Oct 2013

carry out another 9/11 type attack on the United States? Even if it sounds far fetched - Who is willing to take that risk?

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. German, Mexican and Brazilian technolgy is so advanced
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 08:04 AM
Oct 2013

that the US can't even catch them spying on the phones and emails of President Obama, whereas the US gets caught tapping their leaders phones. and emails

Thus the everyone is doing it bullshit story I expect to see anytime now.

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