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Got my CDL-A last month. Got a job offer to drive a oil fracking truck today in North Dakota. The pay is nearly 100K annually plus med-benefits are 100%.
This is three times my current salary.
What would you do a a democrat? take it or walk away?
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Invest the extra money into building another business for yourself.
Buddha_of_Wisdom
(373 posts)That's what you should do.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)I could make that dough if I moved to the oil patch no problem. I won't do it. My life is economically tougher due to it, but its still good enough. And I still fuck over the environment enough with my existence. But my lifestyle is so much better, and I like being content with what I do.
But anyone who is a part of civilization's modern economic engine basically either exploits the earth, or fuels their own labor with other people's exploitation of the earth. Even the organic gardners who take their carbon currency for their goods are contributing in some way to that engine if they do in fact use such funds to purchase products. Without drivers, the economy wont carry on for anyone. As long as you want that economy to keep churning, why feel bad about your part? Everyone else's programming, growing, doctoring, house fixing, sewing, etc, depends on you. Unless there is momentum for real change, the drivers are sort of needed.
I say you do it. If you don't, there won't be enough money in the system to pay for hybrids, organic veggies, and those fancy solar cells.
dballance
(5,756 posts)If you don't someone else will. The truck is going to get driven either way.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)It would save him looking if i give a lead.
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Just be a good ol' boy and listen. If you can't take pictures, write it down and keep it somewhere where it won't be found.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)The guy just graduated truck driving school and you are recommending he basically SPY on his first employer?
If it s a moral dilemma for the OP, then he should do as his conscience guides him, but suggesting he be covert and record everything is.....unethical at the very least and the most
Dumb.
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enough
(13,262 posts)Keep voting as a democrat.
Think about it a lot while you're driving.
This is about what all the rest of us are doing, if we're lucky. Only the super-privileged get to refuse good jobs because of the big picture.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)Take the job. Good lord...
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)You're not selling out by taking their money. Keep your principles and drive the damn truck.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)that way he can donate money to Freedom Works.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)For every gig that compromised my values, I wouldn't have to work at all
Tikki
(14,559 posts)try to make money. This was years ago before the fishing ships really got better at
making sure they followed the rules they do nowadays.
By the time he finished his time there he had very little money to take home. Most of
his wages went on required items and cost of living.
This kind of thing can happen anywhere.
Good Luck.
Tikki
2naSalit
(86,764 posts)there's a reason the pay is alleged to be so high...
muntrv
(14,505 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)I'm a retired lawyer. I wasn't always enthusiastic about my clients but they were entitled to good representation.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)Use the money for your family, put some in a rainy day fund, and use some to support your local candidate beat a rethug.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)jumping into the middle of an oil bubble.
Don't invest any of your own money, there are no living facilities left in that area, go on the net and check the price of eggs.
Stash enough away to come back home and good luck.
2naSalit
(86,764 posts)Serious personal considerations to make if you decide to go:
There's no place to live no matter how much cash you have, hope the rig has a sleeper on it. Nearly everyone there is "packing heat" of some kind - everyone is armed. There's a really low bar for safety since humans are a dime a dozen in that environment.
Don't take anything you aren't willing to lose with you.
Heed some info from a retired petro-hauler (me), if it's fluid it will take a lot of physical purchase to load and unload, that's just the easy part and it does depend on how the load and unload facilities are designed. It is also worth knowing if the tank on the truck is baffled or not... unbaffled aka "tubs" will be a quick learning curve about how to handle the rig... if there is more than one vehicle to the rig (doubles, etc.) it's never going to be fun, you'll have to be on "total alert" at all times and it wears you down quickly. Fracking fluid is heavy, if you have to stop quick, you'll get a big slam in the back a few seconds afterward that will drag you several feet onward.
But most of all you need to consider yourself the most important cargo on the rig... it's an ugly place with little human value and if something happens to you, you'll be discarded like a used tissue. The roads are bad, the weather is an issue for novices and there are lots of accidents. Just because you're being safe doesn't mean everyone else on the same road will be.
Just sayin'. I don't live very far from there and have seen the catastrophuck that place has become... do be on your guard, take the money and when you've had enough of the BS, run.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)There are some things you don't get a pass for doing for money.
auntAgonist
(17,252 posts)driver.
You've only been licensed for a bit over a month. I, as an employer (past) and a safety coordinator for trucking companies would pass over your application based on lack of experience alone. I'm sorry but that's a fact.
Tank truck driving is difficult and requires a LOT of skill and professionalism.
There are other jobs out there that would get you some experience. For your safety and the safety of the motoring public, I don't think this job is for you, yet.
Yeah, the money is nice (if it's truly as high as they lead you to believe) but the consequences of an inexperienced driver making a mistake on the road are insurmountable.
You asked, I answered
Good luck with your job search and safe truckin'
aA
efhmc
(14,731 posts)Also donate some to candidates who represent your own personal views. BTW, congratulations and stay safe.