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(114,904 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Noooooooooooooooooo!
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Owl
(3,643 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)I had three Matabele Zulu and three Maasai trackers. We would track from the ground after cutting the spoor from the air. They never did like flying, almost kissed the ground when we landed. We would track them and try to arrest them, they almost always fought. The poachers knew what lay in store for them if they surrendered. Kenyan prisons are not near as nice as American ones.
As long as the Asian market exists for elephant ivory and rhino horn there will be poachers willing to risk it all to sell to them. I really don't know of any way to fully stop the poaching. An honest goverment and a shit pot of money would be a big help.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)oneshooter
(8,614 posts)I don't know.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Nearly every country in the world is a signatory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CITES
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Right now it's easy to gin up some paperwork that says a shipment comes from legal stocks.
flvegan
(64,412 posts)Did you see "flvegan's Blackwater..." post below?
"Legal", illegal...fuck them. You poach, you die. Next? What?
I'm totally getting a talking to here.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)I neglected to say that some demand reduction via education could also be very helpful, especially if reigious leaders could be brought on board (a tremendous share of ivory products are religious symbols and statuary.) Im normally cynical about that sort of thing, as you know, but news of the dramatic reduction in shark fin sales in China after a concerted public education campaign have shifted my opinion slightly.
To the significant extent that front line poachers are desparate and desparate people are in nearly infinite supply, going after the buyers, smugglers and craftspeople all make more sense in the long run. But the end goal has to be the elimination of the market via education and the end of the smuggling and laundering of the illegal ivory via a loophole free ban and the end of legal ivory schemes.
Wait, am I being the less radical one? I'll go check my temperature.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)As "legal stock"!
Put birth control in human drinking water there.
Kicking this thread.
flvegan
(64,412 posts)In 12 months, no more asshole human poachers. Too dead, or too afraid to be dead.
Poachers...Go fuck yourself.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Loads of dudes out there with heavy tracking and ambush skills.
Always leave one alive to tell his buddies.
Kinda like Kaizer Soze
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)is that the government decided that a white Ranger shooting black poachers is not "proper", as they put it. I was given a months pay in leu of notice.
The money made travels up to the Ministry level, and there is a lot of it.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)Scum of the earth
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)And it is self-defense. They are killing off an entire species, which of course could have ripple effects.
Judi Lynn
(160,598 posts)The people harboring the lethal weakness for ivory should have to pay the price themselves for their moral depravity.
NOTHING taken at this expense should be honored anywhere.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I could type every smilie available and it wouldn't even begin to express what is going on in my mind and heart. Shoot every poacher on sight is one fairly easy solution. More control on how ivory is transported is another. Put some kind of screws to the Chinese who buy this stuff is another.
derby378
(30,252 posts)Please, someone talk me down.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He understands but we're all so f'n helpless to do anything!!
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Me too.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)to aid in protecting rhinos and elephants. The drones can see everywhere.
But cutting off demand, and illegalizing transport are important too.