If we want to save SS from cuts, we need to submit a scarier bill to lower the age to 50yrs.

[CK_John]

A good person to introduce the Bill would be Sen Sanders. I know the bill will have an uphill fight but... The objective is the fight.

We need to show the GOP we not only what to prevent cuts but it needs to be expanded to offset the loss of 40+ age jobs that will never get better in this new cyber-era.

There are only jobs for 1/2 half the population if we are lucky, for at least the next 25yrs. While we adjust and prepare the population to the high tech environment, we need to upgrade the safety net.

Get the population in our fight with the GOP and make them justify there position.

We need to get on offense.

[Jackpine Radical]

1. How 'bout throwing in a 30-hour work week? With, of course, no cut in weekly income.

Also let people retire early,as you suggest, especially from the body-wrecking kind of jobs like construction, etc. that turn them old before their time, and share out the work to more people.

[CK_John]

3. Get the fight started before killing it with complexity.

[Jackpine Radical]

5. Well, sure, but the more snakes and scorpions in the clay pot that we catapult over their wall

the more they have to deal with.

[jsr]

2. And increase the benefits.

[on point]

4. Better to pound on every lie. Call out Bush tax cuts as source of deficit

[CK_John]

7. Fighting old wars may be good for debating class but we need a simple new fight.

Lower the SS age to 50yrs.

[City Lights]

6. I agree.

Rather than start negotiations from where we are now, we need to pull the GOPee left as they continue to pull the US further right.